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Welcome to the Jungle, home of the DK Matchup Discussion thread.
Here we as a DK community will discuss the characters and the matchups between our boy DK and his opponent in Smash 4. Our other matchup thread was very outdated, not well kept and wasn't really having any discussion and I would like to see this change on this one. I would like to keep this on point, with good educated discussion and civil conversation along with appropriate matchup questions whether it be tips or advice. How this will work is we will discuss two to three matchups on a weekly or bi-weekly cycle. I will try to invite members from forums of the other character to also give their input on the conversation. At the end of the week we will figure how we feel about the matchup. In this post I will keep currently being discussed matchups along with previous discussions and try to keep a post to show where that week started. I'm going to put a table which will be more detailed into the matchup as it'll have advice along with the matchup ratio. This is added for easy access. These ideas are not completely original and have been inspired by members of other forums. The table idea came from the Greninja boards specifically who I would like to give the most credit as I loved their idea of putting the matchups in a table.
Please include customs in your matchup discussion. Although customs aren't a complete standard, EVO is allowing them, and I would find it appropriate if we had in our matchup discussions the matchup with or without customs allowed.
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|50-50| Back air is your best friend. Don't get predictable, stay out of your shield as much as possible because Bowser is fast, has a lot of quick kill options and has a command grab to punish your shielding habits. Bowser has a lot of good tools to kill you off stage, but DK can juggle Bowser very well and has access to decently quick kill moves such as d-smash and giant punch which are beneficial in this matchup. Abuse killing Bowser off the top of the stage considering he is floaty. Play patient, and stay grounded unless you are spacing back airs or juggling Bowser. Keep him in the air, as he doesn't have a reliable move to use when he is above you that doesn't require a lot of commitment.
|45-55| Coming Soon.
|40-60| This matchup is very difficult for DK. Falcon's quick speed allows him to win neutral a majority of the time and gives DK trouble getting confirmed hits. Falcon also has a very strong punish game, and can kill/gimp DK relatively early comparative to most of the cast. DK's best bet in this matchup is to stay below Falcon and combo him in the air and to get easy gimps on his poor recovery.
|50-50| Coming Soon.
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|50:50| Ditto match. Have better spacing than your opponent and you will win the match.
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Remember to keep it clean, appropriate, friendly and educated. We want to present ourselves in a humane manner, not an ape like manner. We keep our ape behavior for the battlefield, where we all know its every man for himself.
Previous Week's Discussions
Here we as a DK community will discuss the characters and the matchups between our boy DK and his opponent in Smash 4. Our other matchup thread was very outdated, not well kept and wasn't really having any discussion and I would like to see this change on this one. I would like to keep this on point, with good educated discussion and civil conversation along with appropriate matchup questions whether it be tips or advice. How this will work is we will discuss two to three matchups on a weekly or bi-weekly cycle. I will try to invite members from forums of the other character to also give their input on the conversation. At the end of the week we will figure how we feel about the matchup. In this post I will keep currently being discussed matchups along with previous discussions and try to keep a post to show where that week started. I'm going to put a table which will be more detailed into the matchup as it'll have advice along with the matchup ratio. This is added for easy access. These ideas are not completely original and have been inspired by members of other forums. The table idea came from the Greninja boards specifically who I would like to give the most credit as I loved their idea of putting the matchups in a table.
Please include customs in your matchup discussion. Although customs aren't a complete standard, EVO is allowing them, and I would find it appropriate if we had in our matchup discussions the matchup with or without customs allowed.
Current Discussion (6/8/2015 - 6/19/2015)
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| ?:? | ?:? | ?:? | ?:? | ?:? | ?:? | ?:? |40:60| ?:? | ?:?| ?:?
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| 45:55 | 45:55 | 40:60 | ?:? | ?:? | ?:? | ?:? | ?:? | ?:? | ?:?
Detailed Matchup Analysis
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Matchup Table
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| ?:? | ?:? | ?:? | ?:? | ?:? | ?:? | ?:? |40:60| ?:? | ?:?| ?:?
| 45:55 | 45:55 | 40:60 | ?:? | ?:? | ?:? | ?:? | ?:? | ?:? | ?:?
|50-50| Back air is your best friend. Don't get predictable, stay out of your shield as much as possible because Bowser is fast, has a lot of quick kill options and has a command grab to punish your shielding habits. Bowser has a lot of good tools to kill you off stage, but DK can juggle Bowser very well and has access to decently quick kill moves such as d-smash and giant punch which are beneficial in this matchup. Abuse killing Bowser off the top of the stage considering he is floaty. Play patient, and stay grounded unless you are spacing back airs or juggling Bowser. Keep him in the air, as he doesn't have a reliable move to use when he is above you that doesn't require a lot of commitment.
|45-55| Coming Soon.
|40-60| This matchup is very difficult for DK. Falcon's quick speed allows him to win neutral a majority of the time and gives DK trouble getting confirmed hits. Falcon also has a very strong punish game, and can kill/gimp DK relatively early comparative to most of the cast. DK's best bet in this matchup is to stay below Falcon and combo him in the air and to get easy gimps on his poor recovery.
|50-50| Coming Soon.
| 60:40 | Coming soon
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|50:50| Ditto match. Have better spacing than your opponent and you will win the match.
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Remember to keep it clean, appropriate, friendly and educated. We want to present ourselves in a humane manner, not an ape like manner. We keep our ape behavior for the battlefield, where we all know its every man for himself.
Previous Week's Discussions
Wave 1 - The Koopas (Marth 26th, 2015 - April 3rd, 2015)
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Wave 2 - The Falcon and the Dragon (April 6th, 2015 - April 17th, 2015)
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Wave 3 - The Nephew Kong and Dark Pit (April 20th, 2015 - May 1st, 2015)
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Wave 4 - Shulk and the Doctor (May 25th 2015 - June 5th 2015)
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Wave 2 - The Falcon and the Dragon (April 6th, 2015 - April 17th, 2015)
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Wave 3 - The Nephew Kong and Dark Pit (April 20th, 2015 - May 1st, 2015)
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Wave 4 - Shulk and the Doctor (May 25th 2015 - June 5th 2015)
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Wave 5 - Ganon and the Puppy (June 5th 2015 - June 19th 2015)
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Wave 5 - Ganon and the Puppy (June 5th 2015 - June 19th 2015)
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