Social Mother of the Cosmos: Rosalina [General/Social] Thread (Closed)

[TMNTSSB4]

Oh totally. I have always a weak spot for animals , mostly for dogs and cats.

I mean i rarely pick him as an opponent, i feel bad because you know :3

Same, dogs and cats are the best

 

[MaJoR MuCuS]

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Moderator Edit 2: After further review, the image appears to depict something that's beyond borderline at the SmashBoards. As a result, it has been removed.

 

[TheBeardedPunisher]

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Nice pic, but you should add some text to the post because image only posts count as spam.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

MaJoR MuCuS : For future reference, if you want to post an image, make sure that you type a complete sentence that corresponds to the image that you're posting.

Also, be sure to read the warnings that I've added onto the primary post of this thread.

 

[Nadeko Sengoku]

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OMG SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE'S EMBARRASSED ITS SO CUTE

 

[Brickbuild101]

Oh my, I really should start coming here more again. Mostly posting here to start getting notifs from it again.

 

[Tino]

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She almost looks just as realistic as any pics of her I've seen, it's so mutha****in' lovely. <3

 

[Tali vas Normandy]

More Rosalina greatness shall we
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Those Eyes,
those lips,
and those legs!
*Faints*

Moderator Edit: The image looks beyond borderline for the forum, so it has been removed from public view.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

More Rosalina greatness shall we
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Those Eyes,
those lips,
and those legs!
*Faints*

Not sure how to explain this at all...

 

[Swiftie_Muggle]

Not sure how to explain this at all...

I don't think it's possible to explain people and their ecchi fetishes. Female characters are always doomed in this area and become the eye candy for many , that's a sad destiny.

 

[ChikoLad]

The art Tali posted isn't ecchi at all since it's clearly drawn in a western style, and it has sexual undertones as opposed to sexual overtones. It's seems more beautiful than sexy to me.

Ecchi isn't even really a fetish since it's literally just a term for art that's in a distinct Japanese style that has sexual overtones. Ecchi may consist of art of fetishes, but it's not a fetish in and of itself. Saying someone has an ecchi fetish makes as much sense as saying someone has a "Page 3 of the tabloid newspaper" fetish.

Besides, sexual art isn't an inherently bad thing nor is it sad. It's been around since people first learned how to draw. Sexuality is a part of human nature. Just like how fiction is used to convey fantasies of other human desires, like power, success, freedom, and love, sexuality is just another one of those topics that people will convey through art, be it drawings, paintings, live action film, or fictional cartoon/anime/video game characters.

Anyway, here's a nice, Fire Emblem-esque Rosalina:

...Also this is some weird thing that someone ran into...

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Fakerlina.

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[Tali vas Normandy]

I honestly don't think it's that bad. Definitely not bad enough to call it ecchi but then again I don't know much about the subject so I suppose I could be missing the point.

 

[ChikoLad]

All of the games Rosalina appears in kinda make it hard to not think Rosalina is cute/sexy/beautiful/whatever word you prefer anyway. :V

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I don't even know what ecchi is

 

[Swiftie_Muggle]

I don't even know what ecchi is

It's basically a genre , used mostly for Manga / Anime alike. It basically describes the portrayal of very suggestive images , mostly involving women , but not necessarily naked or being in the levels of ''porn'' , it's just a ''tease''.

It's not classy at all , and it's directed mostly to males with these kind of interests. People who have waifus and all of that mostly are associated with this , but not all since tastes are in diversity .

Basically , sexualizing a woman to please the male crew . A good example of this is DOA mascot , Kasumi. Then again , since Kasumi was literally created for this purpose (to be fanservice) then it's generally accepted .

Characters with a very innocent and modest nature such as Princess Peach , Rosalina , Zelda etc often suffer from this , even when they are not intended to be sexualized ; it's just because they are female.

It goes so far , to the levels of ridiculous , like sexualizing characters like Toadette , just because they are female.

There's literally no female character that doesn't suffer from this , even if they are literally dressed like a nun.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

All of the games Rosalina appears in kinda make it hard to not think Rosalina is cute/sexy/beautiful/whatever word you prefer anyway. :V

As long as she sticks to her signature dress, Rosalina will always feel quite adoring, especially when she smiles.

 

[ChikoLad]

It's basically a genre , used mostly for Manga / Anime alike. It basically describes the portrayal of very suggestive images , mostly involving women , but not necessarily naked or being in the levels of ''porn'' , it's just a ''tease''.

It's not classy at all , and it's directed mostly to males with these kind of interests. People who have waifus and all of that mostly are associated with this , but not all since tastes are in diversity .

Basically , sexualizing a woman to please the male crew . A good example of this is DOA mascot , Kasumi. Then again , since Kasumi was literally created for this purpose (to be fanservice) then it's generally accepted .

Characters with a very innocent and modest nature such as Princess Peach , Rosalina , Zelda etc often suffer from this , even when they are not intended to be sexualized ; it's just because they are female.

It goes so far , to the levels of ridiculous , like sexualizing characters like Toadette , just because they are female.

There's literally no female character that doesn't suffer from this , even if they are literally dressed like a nun.

There's a fair few incorrect and horribly biased points you're making here:

-Ecchi doesn't mostly involve women. Yaoi (male x male) is one of the most popular forms of ecchi, and it's actually more popular than Yuri (female x female). It should also be noted that adult females actually make up a higher population of the video game/anime/nerd culture market than males do as well.

-I don't get what you mean by "it's not classy at all". That really depends on the subject matter and the portrayal. Yes, there is ecchi that delves into questionable or sometimes outright horrid (IMO) fetishes like minors, vore, tentacle stuff, and non-consenual groping and such. But most of it is just an of-age character posing or even embracing their own sexuality. There's nothing "not classy" about that. It's the exact same thing as a picture of a supermodel, only it's a fictional character and not a real person.

-Kasumi isn't just "for the male crew", she's actually very important to the story of DOA and probably has one of the most respectable, non-sexualised portrayals in the main DOA games. Similar to a character like Bayonetta, she's sexy and what not and she can wear risqué outfits, but this can be considered a positive fantasy for women (much like how playing as a Ryu Hayabusa might be for men - might I add that all of the male characters can wear swimsuits in DOA now, as well as the females. Tekken is the same too).

-I don't know why you included Princess Peach in your example because Nintendo has blatantly sexualised her on many occasions, she literally exists to be a fan service character at this point. She wears an incredibly short skirt for the sports games with her legs fully exposed, and many of them have her panties and almost totally bare butt modeled in (I would post images if it were appropriate for this forum but I don't believe it is), Melee and Brawl also give her big bloomers, her signature move in Smash Bros is attacking with her butt with an explosion/love heart effect coming out on contact, her personality in a lot of games is portrayed as cute, flirty, and teasing, she plays the role of an object to be saved in most games, the Paper Mario games have had gags about her being "nude but invisible" and being captured by an otaku with the player able to engage in a dating sim gag with her, and then not to mention promotional material like this that goes as far as to totally exaggerate her proportions into what's effectively Betty Boop proportions:

As for characters like Zelda and Rosalina, they aren't sexualised by Nintendo really (Rosalina is a little bit, though), but they have very attractive figures and beautiful faces and what not, so it stands to reason that there would be teasing fan art of them (with Rosalina in particular, her amazon height, heavy/power classing in games, space theme such as the "cosmos beneath her gown" in Smash, and her motherly aspect give people a lot of "unintentionally sexy" aspects to work with in fan art. Also the fact she wears a pregnancy/maternity gown normally made people want to imagine what she'd look like in something else, but the biker outfit and the tennis outfit have sort of left very little to the imagination, and she has a tall yet very voluptuous and attractive figure).

-When it comes to character like Toadette, most lewd art of those characters is either tongue-in-cheek and part of some weird joke (meaning it's not really meant for arousal), or it's a more "humanified" version of the character which somewhat mitigates the abstract idea of those characters being portrayed in a lewd way.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Very weird conversation going on

 

[RandysRage]

Very weird conversation going on

Shhh, I'm listening. *grabs popcorn*

 

[ChikoLad]

I kinda wanna move away from that myself. There's something I've been meaning to ask though.

Do any of you guys know where I might find a download for Rosalina's models from Super Mario 3D World?

I have her default and Cat models in Source Filmmaker, but I want to get raw files of all of her models (preferably with a rig). Sonic Lost World came out on Steam recently and modding tools are out there for it and a few character mods have already started. I'd love to use this game as my gateway to modding (it's supposed to be fairly easy to mod, easiest Sonic game to mod in fact), and I'd love to start with a Rosalina character mod. The reason I specifically need 3D World models though, is because her 3D World models seem similar in scale to Sonic/Super Sonic's Lost World model, so it would be easier to work with and I wouldn't have to change the model's proportions much, I reckon.

I would like to make her Super form the Cosmic Spirit too.

 

[Killo89]

Very weird conversation going on

I can't agree more. Why literally every subjects make everyone talks of Rosalina's presumed sexualization here?
It kind of disgusts me, I have to say.

Edit: This is why I'll stay with the pictures I've found.

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[ChikoLad]

I can't agree more. Why literally every subjects make everyone talks of Rosalina's presumed sexualization here?
It kind of disgusts me, I have to say.

I think you are over-exaggerating a fair bit.

What really happened here is someone posted a picture that looked nice and it was accused of being ecchi even though it isn't, and someone started insulting ecchi and spreading misinformation on it, as if it's some disgusting thing when it's mostly fairly tame and normal.

I just don't like misinformation being spread about things like that. I also don't like to see people belittling others for what they like, be it ecchi or something else. It doesn't paint a good picture for this social thread.

 

[Killo89]

I think you are over-exaggerating a fair bit.

What really happened here is someone posted a picture that looked nice and it was accused of being ecchi even though it isn't, and someone started insulting ecchi and spreading misinformation on it, as if it's some disgusting thing when it's mostly fairly tame and normal.

I just don't like misinformation being spread about things like that. I also don't like to see people belittling others for what they like, be it ecchi or something else. It doesn't paint a good picture for this social thread.

Doesn't change the fact I find this discussion disgusting, even if it seems I'm over-exaggerating.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

-When it comes to character like Toadette, most lewd art of those characters is either tongue-in-cheek and part of some weird joke (meaning it's not really meant for arousal), or it's a more "humanified" version of the character which somewhat mitigates the abstract idea of those characters being portrayed in a lewd way.

You would think that with Toadette being a mushroom person, that her fan art isn't really able to look sexual. Of course that's not to say that we can't get some cuddly drawings of her.

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Still, there are those out there who have very weird thoughts on their minds, as not even Toadette is immune to the beyond borderline stuff.

 

[ChikoLad]

I tend to prefer a more official look (like the picture below) for Toads and Toadette. The anime style just looks weird with them.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I'd like to let everyone know to stop all ecchi discussions. The topic did go too far with some of the past postings, which is why the topic should stop now before it stirs up anything that's unwarranted.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Well atleast it's over...

 

[Tali vas Normandy]

Meh, it could of been worse.
At least you learned something today.

 

[Swiftie_Muggle]

To end the conversation , i just want to say 2 things, since i obviously wasn't able to do so.

1) Kasumi's creator admitted the sexualized nature of the girls , particulary Kasumi's ; He believes is ok in japan to do so with a 16 year old school girl and that's why boob physics are in the first Dead Or Alive + suggestive themes with all the females with swim suits and what not in recent games. Point here is that , this intended fanservice has gotten into Ridiculous points to the level of nobody caring about what Kasumi is capable to do ; Meanwhile the story is bland always involving a Kasumi clone even in DO5, so there you go.

DOA Extreme beach volleyball anyone??? This is the peak of my point.

2) I have NEVER said Rosalina and company are sexualized by Nintendo ; That's the job of the ''fanbases'' , that's the point i was touching. Lewd art and portrayal of such is not by the company , is by other authors. Yaoi /Shonen Ai is not always sexual , in fact is BARELY represented in videogames and mainstrem media compared to Female sexualization , and the purest form of Ecchi is associted with Females commonly mixed with the harem genre.

That's all i'm going to say , the end.

 

[Tino]

Well either way, y'all certain know how to keep this thread busy even during my sleep.

 

[ChikoLad]

This person draws some of the best Rosalina pictures:

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That Autumn outfit is beautiful.

 

[Tino]

I absolutely love those right there, especially her reading her book.

 

[Swiftie_Muggle]

I just loved how The people who updated Mario Tennis US site said ''5 new characters'' then people speculated , then GameXplain made a video about it and then later they corrected the Website to 3 new characters (Rosalina , Toadette and Sprixie)

lol

 

[ChikoLad]

SOOOOO

A person that I...guess you could say I have a very complex past with (I'm not even sure if she considers me a friend still since we haven't talked in a while, though we did make peace with each other regarding certain rocky events), was having an art block for a while and was asking for suggestions on what to draw, and so a while ago, I suggested they draw Rosalina & Luma. I didn't think they would because I'm not sure where we stand with each other now.

But I was browsing through the Rosalina tag on tumblr and suddenly an art piece caught my eye, and I didn't even look at the name of the poster at first. I just recognised the art style and she did an AMAZING job!

Here's her art blog if you want to see more stuff, she mostly draws female characters and she's amazingly talented:
http://fairlymetalart.tumblr.com/

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[Mario & Sonic Guy]

The nose looks rather disturbing to me.

Anyway, I did run into a rather cuddly drawing not too long ago.

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Source: http://fav.me/d93dihv

 

[Tali vas Normandy]

This person draws some of the best Rosalina pictures:

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That Autumn outfit is beautiful.

OMG that little picture of Momma and the luma's giving her the water bottle is cute. Don't know why the yellow one is making that funny face though lol.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Anyone think that Rosalina will become a main character in the Super Mario series? As in permanently playable, even if she's an unlockable character.

 

[ChikoLad]

Anyone think that Rosalina will become a main character in the Super Mario series? As in permanently playable, even if she's an unlockable character.

She already is a main cast member.

 

[Swiftie_Muggle]

Anyone think that Rosalina will become a main character in the Super Mario series? As in permanently playable, even if she's an unlockable character.

Like keep reapearing in Mario related stuff in a regular basis? She already does. The fact that she wasn't cut in Mario Kart 7 , for it's time , says a lot.

Like being relevant to another story in a Main game like in Super Mario Galaxy ? We are yet to see that.

I think it's safe to assume that in many spin off to come , Rosalina will be labeled as the ''Newcomer''.

What truly is a shame is that , her debut Spin Off games recently are set to be the weakest entries of each.

Mario Party 10 and Now Mario Tennis Ultra Smash.

But hey , there's always Mario Golf World Tour and Mario Kart Wii to make up for that.

 

[ChikoLad]

I would say it's subjective for Mario Party. I personally like MP10. I'm not a huge Mario Party buff, but MP10 is one of the better ones I have seen/played. The mini-games are fun and I don't mind the car mechanic.