TaFoKiNtS
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There has been recent discussion in regards to using LCD monitors at FGC events for SSBM. Traditionally, Smashers have been averse to using LCD monitors because of their increased input lag. Many moves in SSBM have narrow timing windows that even the smallest of delays could mean the difference between landing a technique and messing up completely. Over time, LCD technology has improved dramatically to reduce the amount of input delay. In addition, using the AverMedia capture card's component to HDMI converter allows for the Wii to connect to an LCD monitor. In a recent article, there have been reports that a combination of a great LCD monitor along with the AverMedia capture card can produce gameplay that is virtually similar to a traditional CRT setup.
At larger events that feature multiple games, uniform setups would be easier for tournament organizers to handle, reducing the need to supply several CRTs in addition LCDs. Furthermore, using an LCD for Melee would make it easier to stream Top 8 especially at Evo. There would no longer be downtime switching the TVs and wiring to accommodate Melee's setup.
Melee players have been very stubborn about switching from CRTs and have expressed displeasure against Mr. Wizard’s potential request to use LCDs at Evo. Historically, LCDs have had a significant amount of input/display lag that have dismayed smashers from using LCDs. In recent light of a recent article on LCD/Avermedia Setups, players seem to be more open to playing Melee on an LCD monitor. This weekend at a local Socal tournament, Mr. Wizard, one of the main TOs at Evo, brought over a full setup for players to try.
During the test run, several top players such as Fly Amanita, DEHF and HugS all expressed that the gameplay felt comparable to playing on a normal CRT and had no qualms about using LCDs at a national. More other local players agreed that there was no lag and the TV graphics were crisper thanks to the progressive scan on an LCD monitor. There have been reports of the setup blacking out on a Facebook thread, but this was not an issue at Sunday’s demo test.
The price for an LCD/AverMedia setup still remains pricey at roughly $330 total for both the LCD monitor ($179.99) and capture card (~$162). The expectation on the community is not to procure several of these expensive setups for local tournaments. Instead, the hopeful expectation is that the community would be willing to play on these setups if they are already provided by the tournament organizers, especially in the case of Evo 2014. Despite the solid latency, Mr. Wizard has decided to stick with CRTs for melee at Evo 2014 due to the potential risk of blackouts occurring during pivotal matches. With certain Avermedia cards, blackouts may occur intermittently during play.
Tafokints is a Sheik player based in SoCal. He plays SSBM and aspires to train the local community.He can be reached on Twitter, @ TaFoKiNtS
At larger events that feature multiple games, uniform setups would be easier for tournament organizers to handle, reducing the need to supply several CRTs in addition LCDs. Furthermore, using an LCD for Melee would make it easier to stream Top 8 especially at Evo. There would no longer be downtime switching the TVs and wiring to accommodate Melee's setup.
Melee players have been very stubborn about switching from CRTs and have expressed displeasure against Mr. Wizard’s potential request to use LCDs at Evo. Historically, LCDs have had a significant amount of input/display lag that have dismayed smashers from using LCDs. In recent light of a recent article on LCD/Avermedia Setups, players seem to be more open to playing Melee on an LCD monitor. This weekend at a local Socal tournament, Mr. Wizard, one of the main TOs at Evo, brought over a full setup for players to try.
During the test run, several top players such as Fly Amanita, DEHF and HugS all expressed that the gameplay felt comparable to playing on a normal CRT and had no qualms about using LCDs at a national. More other local players agreed that there was no lag and the TV graphics were crisper thanks to the progressive scan on an LCD monitor. There have been reports of the setup blacking out on a Facebook thread, but this was not an issue at Sunday’s demo test.
The price for an LCD/AverMedia setup still remains pricey at roughly $330 total for both the LCD monitor ($179.99) and capture card (~$162). The expectation on the community is not to procure several of these expensive setups for local tournaments. Instead, the hopeful expectation is that the community would be willing to play on these setups if they are already provided by the tournament organizers, especially in the case of Evo 2014. Despite the solid latency, Mr. Wizard has decided to stick with CRTs for melee at Evo 2014 due to the potential risk of blackouts occurring during pivotal matches. With certain Avermedia cards, blackouts may occur intermittently during play.
Tafokints is a Sheik player based in SoCal. He plays SSBM and aspires to train the local community.He can be reached on Twitter, @ TaFoKiNtS
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