Here's a question I thought of earlier for you brawlers to hopefully try and answer for me. I saw in an Olimar thread that he can use his ^B up to three times as long as the first two hit the opponent. I'm wondering if this applies to Ivysaur as well.
Also, if it does apply to Ivysaur, are you able to VW an edgehogging opponent to knock him off and then VW again to grab the ledge? I asked a similar question in the Olimar thread but haven't gotten an answer yet. Plus I'm more of a Pokemon fan than a Pikmin fan anyways
There is a misunderstanding somewhere...
After using an Aerial Vine-Whip, Ivysaur enters a "Free-fall" state and cannot perform any action until touching the ground. This applies whether Ivysaur hit the opponent or not with the Vine-Whip as well.
After hearing your statement on Olimar I decided to check things myself. I did some tests and Olimar's Pikmin Chain has the exact same properties as Ivysaur's Vine-Whip. After using an Aerial-Up+B Olimar enters a Free-fall state just like Ivysaur, whether he hit the opponent with the Up+B or not.
Somewhere there is a confusion with Olimar's recovery.
I think there might be a misunderstanding with Tether Stalling 3-times. I wrote about it in my guide;
Another interesting thing I found about this Tether Recovery; I call it Anti-Tether Stalling.
Ivysaur can only grab an edge 3 times with Vine-Whip. Any time she tries to vine whip an edge a 4th+ time, the Vine will extend, touch the edge, but then deflect off leaving Ivysaur to free fall once again. This mechanic applies to ALL Tether Recoveries in the game, and I assume it was put in place because Tether recoveries grab the ledge extremely fast, and it causes players to stall the game with invincibility frames. Luckily though, If you land anywhere on the stage, the 3-limit counter will reset back to 0, and you may vine-whip the edge another 3 times. Nothing to really complain about, since this actually HELPS the game and doesn't allow lamers to just stall the edge.
This Anti-Tether Stall applies to All characters with Tether Recoveries, including Olimar.
When they say Olimar can do his Up+B 3 times, they must be referring to this Edge stall, because after a 4th time Olimar won't grab the ledge.
