Nana Braking

[Hylian]

So, I found something else that I thought deserved its own thread when playing PX.

You know how GW can bucket brake?

Well...


Ice climbers can't.


But what they can do!!!! Is save nana.

Basically, a lot of the time nana has more % then popo right? So she flys farther and such. Well, if you do an attack as she is passing by popo(uair for example) she will sync with popo and it will cancel her momentum esentially saving her. If your opponent is killing nana, and they hit her towards you, you can sort of catch her do doing an uair or something as she passes you. When she's in your little bubble that you can control her in she synches with whatever you are doing.

It's pretty nifty.

 

[bobson]

It's "braking."

 

[Hylian]

Um, sorry for the typo?


*facepalm*

 

[bobson]

It's okay, I'm sure everyone will find it in their heart to forgive you.

 

[PhantomX]

****** Nana is fun.

 

[C~Dog]

That...is pretty awesome. Good find =D

 

[X-FACTOR]

2 GOOD! I need to try this out now!

 

[deepseadiva]

As in, completly braking ALL her momentum?

Or just momentum canceling with Nana?

If it's the second one, why'd it take you so long to remember to momentum cancel Nana too? xD

 

[lain]

Sounds amazing.

But unfortunately there won't be a whole lot of them hitting her in your direction past you. Just off the stage. :'[

 

[swordgard]

I thought this was known... this is why you must always momentum cancel asap with them to save nana if possible.


Oh and guys, im not sure you guys knew this, but a small bit of info i found. Side-B will reduce horizontal momentum (you can sometimes save yourself from dying by doing it directly after upair, at the cost of predictable recovery, but at least you dont die).

 

[Hylian]

This isn't just momentum canceling.

If nana is at like 100% and you are at 0%, and your opponent hits only her, you can jump up and catch her with an aireal as she's flying away >_>. It looks really weird lol. Sort of like how GW's uair will stop someones momentum after they are hit.

 

[istudying]

Now i get it.
Awesome thing Hylian. Will this work with other aerials?

 

[Hylian]

Now i get it.
Awesome thing Hylian. Will this work with other aerials?

Yeah, it should.


This tactic isn't really "Amazing" in the sense that you will pretty much almost never get the chance to use it.

But it's something to know .

 

[momochuu]

I understand what you mean. Too many people use Forward Air and Down Air when UpAir is much better.

 

[GimR]

Oh my goodness, I thought of something just like this yesterday but never tested it out.(kinda weird huh?)


Good stuff Hylian for finding this and posting it.

 

[C~Dog]

I understand what you mean. Too many people use Forward Air and Down Air when UpAir is much better.

I reflexively smash down the cstick when i get hit =x

 

[Prawn]

Very cool, I actually think you guys are underestimating how much you can use this. If Nana is just slightly ahead of you and she's hit back towards you you can use this if you have fast enough fingers.

 

[FrozenHobo]

I reflexively smash down the cstick when i get hit =x

i do a nair... if i get sent up though i'll do a dair. i don't really use uair as a momentum breaker.... probably should.

 

[SpongeBathBill]

I reflexively smash down the cstick when i get hit =x

Practise getting hit until you reflexively smash up on the cstick when it happens. ^_^

 

[swordgard]

I understand what you mean. Too many people use Forward Air and Down Air when UpAir is much better.

Actually it doesnt matter what aerial you use, nana will just naturally use momentum to come back to you when shes sent flying by. Its kinda the same as when shes floating because your on a platform and she aint.

 

[KRDsonic]

I thought this was old too o.o

That's why I usually use Nair as soon as I see myself by Nana if either of us got hit.



Also, is Uair any better than Bair for this and DI? I usually use Bair... unless I get hit really far over, then I use Uair instead.

 

[ch33s3]

This actualally won me a set today, saved nana, and in the process spiked my opponent <3.

 

[momochuu]

Actually it doesnt matter what aerial you use, nana will just naturally use momentum to come back to you when shes sent flying by. Its kinda the same as when shes floating because your on a platform and she aint.

I believe Up Air is the fastest though, so it's more reliable.

 

[Hylian]

I really doubt people knew this >_>.

Why didn't you tell anyone? I would of loved to know this before lol.

I don't think the people who say it's old understand >_>.

 

[KRDsonic]

I really doubt people knew this >_>.

Why didn't you tell anyone? I would of loved to know this before lol.

I don't think the people who say it's old understand >_>.

Because every time I think I've found something new you disprove it and tell me that it's old? I just figured it would be the same with this so I figured I wouldn't say anything and get the same reply as usual, that's all. Sorry.

Edit: Also, I never said that this was old to me, I just said that I thought it was old. Period. I didn't reailze the effectiveness of it until some friendlies against Phil on wifi recently. I just figured other people already knew about it.

 

[Fly_Amanita]

Hylian is the only person who knows things.

 

[Hylian]

Hylian is the only person who knows things.

This guy gets it.


Seriously though, I've just never seen this in a video or seen it posted on the boards ANYWHERE. So when someone says they know about it, I wonder why they didn't tell people :/. Then I try to clarify if they are actually talking about the same thing I am.

 

[KRDsonic]

Seriously though, I've just never seen this in a video or seen it posted on the boards ANYWHERE. So when someone says they know about it, I wonder why they didn't tell people :/. Then I try to clarify if they are actually talking about the same thing I am.

You're talking about you getting hit away, then Nana gets hit and would normally be sent flying past you on the way, but you use a Nair to stop her from flying that far and she sort of sticks to you because of the move, correct?

 

[Hylian]

You're talking about you getting hit away, then Nana gets hit and would normally be sent flying past you on the way, but you use a Nair to stop her from flying that far and she sort of sticks to you because of the move, correct?

Um, sort of.

If you are synched and hit, nana will usually be hit farther from you and not even pass you if she has more damage.

You don't have to be hit though, just nana. Nana can be on the other side of the stage and get hit and go flying, and if you jump in front of her and do an aireal she will just stop.

But yeah, you have the general idea.

 

[KRDsonic]

Um, sort of.

If you are synched and hit, nana will usually be hit farther from you and not even pass you if she has more damage.

You don't have to be hit though, just nana. Nana can be on the other side of the stage and get hit and go flying, and if you jump in front of her and do an aireal she will just stop.

But yeah, you have the general idea.

Alright, just making sure.

I just mentioned popo being hit first since usually people don't hit Nana my way or I don't react quick enough (though if I'm below the stage and being edgeguarded and need to recover, I tend to work wonders with keeping her by me like that o.O)

 

[Diddyknight]

Great Find xD..Uair is much better to DI with lol <:C

 

[Kage Me]

It's not so much that this technique was explicitely known, but most people should have known that it was possible by the way Nana works... Really. Shame on all of us for not posting this sooner.

 

[Roller]

It's not so much that this technique was explicitely known, but most people should have known that it was possible by the way Nana works... Really. Shame on all of us for not posting this sooner.

I... Ya. I feel stupid. We=idiots.

 

[djm111]

Could this be used to stop Dk from cargo spiking Nana?

 

[r3d d09]

Depends also, lets say popo is off the stage then the opponent hits nana towards you, I've tried to do what was stated and she ended up desynced and i fell to my death. lol.
But i've also have pulled this off successfully. it's quite fun to listen to the opponents remarks after you survive a powerful smash. ;D