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[Terios the Hedgehog]

http://www.dustloop.com/ggac/data/conv.html

Guilty Gear uses that system too. As do Street Fighter, Tekken and any other "2-d" fighter. For a question like stutter stepping most people would say back on the control stick and forward on the Cstick. They'd figure you out. I like the number system though.



Removing springs from your controller in Brawl is merely a personal preference. Try it out. If you like it. Keep it. Try not to use your favorite controller for a test though.

 

[Germanydabassist]

What does pseudo-*insert word* mean? like pseudo sticking or a pseudo sex kick?
lol I probably spelled that wrong...

 

[infomon]

What does pseudo-*insert word* mean? like pseudo sticking or a pseudo sex kick?
lol I probably spelled that wrong...

[Wikipedia: Pseudo]

so a pseudo sex-kick is "not really a sex-kick"

also I hate the word sex-kick

 

[kr3wman]

How do you SDI Zelda's U-smash and D-smash to get out of them before the killing blow?

 

[XienZo]

How do you SDI Zelda's U-smash and D-smash to get out of them before the killing blow?

U-smash is insanely hard but I think its still up and away.

SDIing D-smash won't do you any good...

 

[kr3wman]

U-smash is insanely hard but I think its still up and away.

SDIing D-smash won't do you any good...

Meant F-smash, sorry for that.

 

[Jasona]

undr was telling me that very few chars can combo. i just figured that since samus could combo everyone could. are combos really that rare? am "i" really comboing? there is a vid in my sig with some examples of my samus "comboing"
i live in a little box where its just samus vs pit all the time ever since the game was released, so i'm clueless about all of the other chars

 

[XienZo]

Combo means that if the game was slowed down to a frame a second, and they were trying as hard as they could to DI out or shield or airdodge or attack, they'd still be doomed. Your vid looked like it had some combos, but they were rather situational. Anyway, Samus has more combos than your average Snake.

 

[infomon]

I don't understand why such a tight definition of "combo" is so prevalent. I mean, how is that even practical? As far as I'm concerned, stringing moves together in rapid succession, even if it involves some prediction and response (for DI or forcing airdodges or whatever lol) is a sensible definition of combo, it doesn't matter if they could have escaped or if it's situational. So, that's my question.

 

[XienZo]

Ummm... its actually not too important, besides making Sheik feel special...

 

[MarTh-]

Can somone link me to the thread with jablock infinites?

 

[Swordplay]

Searching for DAC frame Data.........

If anybody knows where to Look please respond or PM me.
(specifically, Links frame data but I'll take any leads you can give me at all.)

 

[NintendoMan07]

So I've picked up Brawl for the first time in a while... and I'm wondering where to really start.

I don't have a main, and I never did have one. I've always been made of fail (since the day it came out), so I figure this time I need to find a way to keep committed to improving or quit the game altogether.

I tried some spacing exercises with Lvl. 3 comps tonight, since it was suggested to me (the "keep the eyes off your character" stuff, right?). It didn't go very well. I now feel even more stupid than I did before.

All matches are 3 stock, no time limit, no items, all percentages are the damage taken from the indicated comp character:
89% from Lvl. 3 Ness, playing as Marth
82% from Lvl. 3 Wolf, playing as Link
127% from Lvl. 3 Snake, playing as Sonic, one SD included
69% from Lvl. 3 Sonic, playing as Dedede, one SD included
100% from Lvl. 3 Lucario, playing as MK, one fall included

That's all the matches I played tonight. I have a feeling with the way people talk around here that the MK one would be the decisive match, and if that's the case it doesn't look good for me. As I said, I have no main, so that accounts for the different characters used.

At any rate, would this be the right place to start for someone just picking the game back up for the first time in about a month or two? If so, is this a normal or worse way to start off spacing exercises (I know for SURE it can't be better)? If not, where SHOULD I start?

 

[hyperhopper]

i read you can pick up snakes box.... how? it just disappears for me.....

also, what does ZSS down+b special do? just a jump?

 

[infomon]

^^ I dunno, sorry.

Question: Are the killzones in Brawl all rectangular? I mean, is there a diagonal kill-zone at the top-left and top-right of the stage? Or is the survivable area just a box?

(I'd assume it's a box, and I did some tests on Bridge of Eldin, but I heard a rumour otherwise, so I thought I'd check....)

 

[XienZo]

i read you can pick up snakes box.... how? it just disappears for me.....

also, what does ZSS down+b special do? just a jump?

YOu have to be someone else besides the Snake in the box and then press A next to the Box when its on Snake. It'll still be automnically thrown and will disappear though.

Press A or B immediatly after you input Down-B to perform a kick that can spike. Do it towards a wall (without activating the kick) and you'll automanically wall jump off. Land on a person or item(without using the kick) and you can do a super footstool.

 

[Cero]

^^ I dunno, sorry.

Question: Are the killzones in Brawl all rectangular? I mean, is there a diagonal kill-zone at the top-left and top-right of the stage? Or is the survivable area just a box?

(I'd assume it's a box, and I did some tests on Bridge of Eldin, but I heard a rumour otherwise, so I thought I'd check....)

All stage killzones in Brawl are in the shape of an octagon. Diagonal kills now register as "blast" KO's.
Where as in Melee, diagonal kills would result in a small flash instead of the traditional exploding pillar of light.

 

[saviorslegacy]

How EXACTLY do you do a pivoy dash?

 

[infomon]

All stage killzones in Brawl are in the shape of an octagon. Diagonal kills now register as "blast" KO's.
Where as in Melee, diagonal kills would result in a small flash instead of the traditional exploding pillar of light.

Hmmmmmmmm. Very intriguing. I was able to find some old threads that mentioned this, when I searched for "octagon" lol, thanks for that idea.

But the only reason I've seen cited is the diagonal explosion graphic; which might be purely cosmetic. Do you know of any solid testing/proof? I'll work on it tomorrow if I have a chance.

 

[A.A]

Is their a video on this forum that shows a whole selection of techniques that can be used for all characters in genral?

I have seen the melee ones and that helped but am looking for one/many on brawl

 

[Amide]

Is their a video on this forum that shows a whole selection of techniques that can be used for all characters in genral?

I have seen the melee ones and that helped but am looking for one/many on brawl

Universal ATs are hard to come by, however they are listed at the beginning of this thread:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=187873

 

[~Peachy~]

Is there a way to make a computer start off as Zero Suit Samus?

Thanks in advance! ^__^

 

[Mazaloth]

Just a question about DI.

I know that in the steps of being hit there is hitlag and then hitstun.

I also know that to SmashDI you repeatedly smash the C-stick in the way you want to be knocked back.

However, if I normally DI, when do I hit the Analog stick?
At hitlag or hitstun?
And how much time do I have to DI?

 

[MarTh-]

i read you can pick up snakes box.... how? it just disappears for me.....

also, what does ZSS down+b special do? just a jump?

You only pick it up when he's still inside it

 

[infomon]

I also know that to SmashDI you repeatedly smash the C-stick in the way you want to be knocked back.

You can use both the analog stick and the C-stick to smash-DI. You can even quarter-circle the analog stick, but not the C-stick afaik. (C-stick inputs a tap of the control stick which is why it works.) As long as you are in hitlag you can smash-DI.

I think it's wherever your control stick is pointed as you transition from hitlag to hitstun, that is your regular DI. But I could be wrong.

 

[Cero]

Is there a way to make a computer start off as Zero Suit Samus?

Thanks in advance! ^__^

Plug a controller into the computer's port and hold a shield button in the character select screen.

 

[~Peachy~]

Plug a controller into the computer's port and hold a shield button in the character select screen.

Wow, it works! ^__^

Thanks a million!

 

[GwJ]

I have a question about move stale-ing. Does a move become more stale after each use, or each successful hit?

 

[infomon]

All stage killzones in Brawl are in the shape of an octagon. Diagonal kills now register as "blast" KO's.
Where as in Melee, diagonal kills would result in a small flash instead of the traditional exploding pillar of light.

I did some tests, which resulted in me starting this thread:
[Stage killzones are rectangular, not octagonal]

Although my tests are apparently redundant, since it's been reported that the killzones are evident in a) the intro How To Play video (lol), and b) people using hacks to zoom the camera out, etc.

I have a question about move stale-ing. Does a move become more stale after each use, or each successful hit?

If your Fair is multi-hit, then I'm pretty sure that hitting an opponent with any of the hits will cause your next Fair to be stale with every hit... but I could be wrong. Is that what you meant? Also it's weird, I've heard that if you grab someone, say with Lucario since his grab-jab is so fast... If you jab fast enough, successive hits don't stale (they count as a multi-hit attack), but if you allow a nice l'il space in between, you can make each successive hit stale. (Most people want to stale their grab-jab hits to unstale their other moves.)

 

[GwJ]

Not really. I use ROB, and I know that overusing his Nair is a big issue, so I wanted to know if the move's power degrade with every attempt, or every hit?

 

[infomon]

Oh! You have to land a hit for it to stale. You can even use stage elements (Smashville balloon lol, etc.) to stale an attack.

 

[False Soundz]

I haven't read a lot of posts in this thread so I don't know if this question was asked. (I doubt it)

How do you overcome a plateau when you can't play anyone live. My options are playing CPU's, extremely sucky people IRL, or I can play really good people but usually with lots of lag.

 

[Terios the Hedgehog]

I haven't read a lot of posts in this thread so I don't know if this question was asked. (I doubt it)

How do you overcome a plateau when you can't play anyone live. My options are playing CPU's, extremely sucky people IRL, or I can play really good people but usually with lots of lag.

You can't really. Get your friends better, deal with lag(not a good option) or just accept it. It sounds like you are the best in your area. Why BOTHER getting better if you aren't going to play better people?

 

[Cero]

I did some tests, which resulted in me starting this thread:
[Stage killzones are rectangular, not octagonal]

Although my tests are apparently redundant, since it's been reported that the killzones are evident in a) the intro How To Play video (lol), and b) people using hacks to zoom the camera out, etc.

Wow. Thanks for actually taking the time to test it.

Oh, and sorry. It seems I just blindly believed something I read months ago without any solid proof and decided to respond to your question as though it were a proven fact.

 

[shadyf0o]

How can pivot grabing be more useful than a regular grab? Is it faster? If it isn't I can't see how it could be useful, unless you want to use your back throw instead of foward or something when you are near an edge.

 

[GwJ]

It's the same speed. I use it for mindgames, because people generally try to spotdodge them, and the pivot grab will take long enough to punish them for spotdodging.

 

[XienZo]

How can pivot grabing be more useful than a regular grab? Is it faster? If it isn't I can't see how it could be useful, unless you want to use your back throw instead of foward or something when you are near an edge.

It depends on the character, but its WAY faster, and sometimes longer. It works best with Olimar and Yoshi. Yoshi doesn't go, "Hey guys, look at my tongue!" if he misses, and Olimar's slides one way and the Pikmin is dashes the other way.

 

[infomon]

Wow. Thanks for actually taking the time to test it.

Oh, and sorry. It seems I just blindly believed something I read months ago without any solid proof and decided to respond to your question as though it were a proven fact.

No problem at all; it's normal to assume that info on smashboards is correct lol.

 

[~Peachy~]

How frequently are mindgames used in a high-skill level match? Rarely, sometimes, occasionally, frequently, all the time...

Thanks in advance!

 

[False Soundz]

How frequently are mindgames used in a high-skill level match? Rarely, sometimes, occasionally, frequently, all the time...

Thanks in advance!

In a high level match? I'd say all the time or as much as possible. Tech skill and spacing used to pull of certain moves is definitely important but if you aren't able to land them whats the point in learning them?

You need to able to trick your opponent in order to get hits on him. It depends on who you play and a lot of other factors, but when you're playing a good opponent mindgames are really important in order for you to get hits and kill your opponent. Can't get a hit? Game over for you.

Mindgames has a pretty wide variety of definitions though.

A lot may disagree but this is just my point of view. NP