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Smash Lord
Wait wait... There is Teching in this game?
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New technique: Jab locks
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Ch0zen0ne
Smash Lord
Doesn't this mean [as ROB] you could theoretically Dtilt your opponent.. cause them to trip.. and then lock them across the stage >_> WTF.
FS Fantom
Free Saltines
They dash up to you and you don't tech what? A dash attack?
Or are you saying as you land far away they can rush that spot and start the lock? I'm guessing this.
1) You miss your tech.
2) When they dash up to you, you expected an attack and therefore tech.
3) You think they'll just stand there and wait for you to tech so you do a Get-up attack.
4) You roll to the side instead of a rolling tech.
The point is, it's situational but it does happen.
TheLegend
Smash Ace
That doesn't seem correct.. b/c you're on the ground either way... please explain the difference in game physics to me because i am not understanding the minor tweak atm..
Because you can only lock them when they fall on their backs. The game differentiates from when you fall on your back, your stomach and your behind (Tripping).
FS Fantom
Free Saltines
1/3 I can see working no problem. But with #2, you teched, so how does the lock work? Also, on number 4 if you roll, how can the lock work?
The 4 options are options for what someone might do when someone runs up to them while they're under hitstun/in tumbling mode, not examples of when you'll get a lock in.
It was in response to "Why would anyone allow you to run up to them and jab them".
susu_atari
Smash Ace
Can Dedede do this out of his down throw?
Ch0zen0ne
Smash Lord
Thank you for the clarification my good sir.
Nicktendo
Smash Ace
On the lighter characters like kirby, olimar, game and watch, etc you cant normally chainthrow it does cause them to go into a missed tech, but theyd have to be super slow reacting to it for you to run up and jab them
If the opponent is an idiot.
Vice Lord
Smash Apprentice
i'd like to see a video of this in action if possible, it looks useful, but it's hard to tell from this video alone.
Chrono Centaur
Smash Apprentice
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uhh, can't you simply roll right out of it if you hit the ground? D:
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
even tho it proly wont be in tourneys, you could fight pika, with D3 on a walled stage(shadow moses is my fav) d-throw on a wall,. and jab infinitely
FartKnocker
Smash Apprentice
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Nice find! We need more discoveries like these. Now I'll wait and see how long before somebody figures out how to guarantee a setup for one of these locks without needing the opponent to fall in front of them (i.e. find a move that inescapably positions the opponent for one of these).
Chrono Centaur
Smash Apprentice
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But, wait, I thought you could just tech-roll backwards? O-o It's only if you fall on your stomach you can roll? Forgive me for this, but I haven't played Brawl in a while.
Rapid_Assassin
Smash Master
How could it be banned from tournaments? It does what, 30%? Many combos in Melee were inescapable and did way more than this. I could see this as a reason to ban any stage with a permanent wall though, like Shadow Moses Island, and to make stages with temporary walls like Pokestadium 1 as counterpick.
cubaisdeath
Smash Lord
Most tournaments allow the stage luigi's mansion on as a counterpick, which happens to be the ONLY stage I can do it semi-consistently. It can be done, it is just retardedly hard to set it up on any other stage. Remember guys, its super easy to avoid getting locked, but if you do happen to get locked....well, you saw the video.
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Deleted member
Guest
hmmm....a lock....created by jabbing.
verdict: NOT a stupid name. I approve.
verdict: NOT a stupid name. I approve.
BlackPanther
Smash Ace
Hey that was pretty tight. But alas another useless technique that doesn't arouse my interest to play Brawl at all. Your opponent would have to have a heart attack or somethin for this to work lol.
I hate you smash community.
Brawl has no combos, so you treat infinites like they are amazing. At least to pull off wobbling you had to have really good timing. This crap with D3 chain grabs, lazor locks, wall infinites, and other stuff is beyond annoying. The skill it requires to do the Jab combo is amazingly low. Step forward, punch, repeat. Amazing!
Did you try teching? ****, I know, you have to think to do it. But all you have to do is hit the shield button just before you land. Tough, but I think you can pull it off. That's why you don't see tournament videos with lazor locking, people can get out of it. If someone starts jabbing me while I'm on the ground, do you not expect me to do anything? No, I'm going to start by DIing, if that doesn't work, I'm going to shield. Well there you go, you may have gotten 2 hits off before I escaped. Nice, now let me punish you because you got up to get a drink while your turbo button went to work.
It's an interesting, but, for the love of Christ, not everything found needs 20 people hailing that this will break Brawl, will comlicate the tournament scene, change the meta, or is good at all. When I see a Bowsercide, I don't think, '****, that guy is good.' I think, 'Wow, sucks to lose a life like that, doesn't it?"
Brawl has no combos, so you treat infinites like they are amazing. At least to pull off wobbling you had to have really good timing. This crap with D3 chain grabs, lazor locks, wall infinites, and other stuff is beyond annoying. The skill it requires to do the Jab combo is amazingly low. Step forward, punch, repeat. Amazing!
Did you try teching? ****, I know, you have to think to do it. But all you have to do is hit the shield button just before you land. Tough, but I think you can pull it off. That's why you don't see tournament videos with lazor locking, people can get out of it. If someone starts jabbing me while I'm on the ground, do you not expect me to do anything? No, I'm going to start by DIing, if that doesn't work, I'm going to shield. Well there you go, you may have gotten 2 hits off before I escaped. Nice, now let me punish you because you got up to get a drink while your turbo button went to work.
It's an interesting, but, for the love of Christ, not everything found needs 20 people hailing that this will break Brawl, will comlicate the tournament scene, change the meta, or is good at all. When I see a Bowsercide, I don't think, '****, that guy is good.' I think, 'Wow, sucks to lose a life like that, doesn't it?"
cubaisdeath
Smash Lord
I think you missed the message of the video. I know I can't just down throw someone and have them flop down on the stage so I can jab lock them, they ARE going to do something. Again I will use Luigi's mansion as an example. On this stage, all you have to do to set this up is tornado to dtilt. Bam, jab lock. Link can do it at low percentages just by hitting point blank with the boomerang and jabbing. it can be done. We did some thinking about the usefulness of the technique, trust me, we wouldn't have posted a video about it if we didn't. this is mainly a punishment move. you aren't expected to go into a match saying "ok, I'm gonna jab lock him for at least 90% this round." What we are expecting is that if your opponent lands in front of you and doesn't tech, and you jab lock to punish them. Think about it that way.
Dai-A
Smash Journeyman
Didnt Mew2king find this one out?
Earthbound360
Smash Hero
OMG great find. Cool that my main can use it 