Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Rie Sonomura]

Thus kicking off the Verge redemtion arc. Now we wait for his grand return to "Smash Speculation: The Series".

I told y’all bruh

RETURN. OF. THE. KING.

 

[Deleted member]

Calling it, Steve will win EVO 2021.

 

[Cosmic77]

Oh yeah. People wanted more characters that didn't originate in Japan.

We got one.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

BRO PPPLLEEEASSSSEEEEE have the same ****ing debacle with Hero where people try to ban Steve cause he's too OP.

That mostly just happened because he was random, so I don't think it will happen here. Even so, it would at least be a little funny to see the overreaction.

 

[Just a random scrub]

He doesn't, but if a Super Mario character were to be in the pass, it would have been in now in order to coincide with the 35th Anniversary. Since that didn't happen, I think all Super Mario characters are as good as disconfirmed. Same with Pokémon and the Crown Tundra update.

I guess I understand that, but Smash doesn't usually reveal fighters based on anniversaries.

 

[Will]

Steve is going to be absolutely hilarious to play online

You run into double Steves in Co-Op. Everything is fine, but after they take out a teammate, they build a ****ing house over you and now you're forever trapped in Steve's creation.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Imagine if we got Yuri instead.

I would love Yuri, that damn pretty boy

 

[Deleted member]

Alright, cast your vote. This is the REAL election of 2020.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Steve got announced an hour ago and people are already talking about Fortnite and Five Nights at Freddy's getting representation lmao

To be fair, a Freddy Deluxe Mii Costume would be a pretty good way to represent him. I doubt he'll get in at all, mind you, but still.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

So uh.... we got their full set of alts. Thoughts?

 

[TwiceEXE]

If Steve really was a near 3-year long deal, then I feel like that'd imply that Nintendo clearly had plans for DLC past the first pass, unless they chose to skip on Steve initially and then come back to it?

Poor Rex, if that turns out to be true.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Symphonia is the only game I'm familiar with as of now, so I wouldn't care for him much. Also, we don't have any swordfighters with 2 swords, which is why Lloyd would really stand out imo

Well Yuri uses a sword and an Axe.

And is a better overall character lol

 

[Trevenant]

Seems his regular B is probably the Block Placing, Down B is the Crafting Table and the Up B is the elytra. I dunno whether the ability to literally dig items out of the stage is a nice or a mechanic he has when his attacks connect with the stage. The Mine Cart and TNT are even more confusing. Maybe they are accessed with crafting? Then they would both probably be mapped to Side B

Sidenote, I love the attention to detail with Steve. In this image, he used the grab and then they get caught in the fence and then they get chucked up by the piston. The fence shows up for a few second as but it shows they are literally trying to incorporate everything. Something else that comes to mind is that when using his Up B he pulls out fireworks which is actually an easy way for you to be able to fly upwards with them IIRC without having to fall and then fly which was what people always said the Elytra would function like if it got in with Steve. It really is amazing what they have done with him.

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly, I cannot tell if I died in my sleep yesterday and ascended into heaven.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Steve got announced an hour ago and people are already talking about Fortnite and Five Nights at Freddy's getting representation lmao

I disagree with the notion that Steve has anything to do with these two franchises, and I don't know much about the merits of Fortnite, but I think FNaF has enough of them to get a Mii Costume.

There's no chance in Ultimate Custom Night that it'd get a fighter, but a Mii Costume is definitely an option.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

So uh.... we got their full set of alts. Thoughts?

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I respectfully abstain from giving my thoughts

 

[RandomAce]

So uh.... we got their full set of alts. Thoughts?

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Zombie is a Steve Alt and Enderman is a Alex alt, so whatever animations either have will probably translate into them as well.

 

[Deleted member]

So uh.... we got their full set of alts. Thoughts?

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Maining the Enderman alt for sure. These alts look fantastic.

 

[BernkastelWitch]

So uh.... we got their full set of alts. Thoughts?

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That Enderman skin is gonna be the latest meme for the Smash fandom, I can just feel it.

 

[Will]

The Mine Cart and TNT are even more confusing. Maybe they are accessed with crafting? Then they would both probably be mapped to Side B

Well we saw iron being mined in the trailer, so maybe he has resources you can keep track of?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Well Yuri uses a sword and an Axe.

And is a better overall character lol

Plus all the flips and **** he does when attacking is god tier

and he is, like you said, A damn good character

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Poor Rex, if that turns out to be true.

On the flip side... this is how Elma can still win.

Update: I booked it. And no, I can’t tell you what it is. #NDA https://t.co/OL9sfR50ko

— Caitlin Glass (@caitlinsvoice) November 8, 2018

I want to believe...

 

[Lamperouge]

Poor Rex, if that turns out to be true.

My hopes for him at this point were practically non existent anyway but this pretty much cements it, I feel.

Pretty bummed if true.

 

[TheShiningAbsol]

So uh.... we got their full set of alts. Thoughts?

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Skeletonbros, we were robbed.

 

[Dark Bagel]

I could get used to this timeline

Who would've thought we'd get a character (alt) explicitly inspired by the freaking Slenderman playable in smash

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Pretty interesting how both characters in this Pass have been characters that were hot topics early on in Ultimate speculation, but eventually fell off the radar a bit. Might just be a coincidence, but we know they keep track of fan discussions, or at the very least they used to, so might be worth taking some of the early favorites that have eventually fallen off into consideration again.

Anyways, Steve isn't my cup of tea, but congrats to those who wanted him. Hope we still have at least one more western character in store.

 

[Deleted member]

Skeletonbros, we were robbed.

Skeletons in Minecraft are the most evil things in the game.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

So uh.... we got their full set of alts. Thoughts?

I think the Enderman is my least favorite due to how disproportioned it is, but I think they're fine.

My hopes for him at this point were pretty much non existent anyway but this pretty much cements it, I feel.

Pretty bummed if true.

Honestly I don't see what any of this would have to do with Rex. It's not like Steve/Alex would take his spot or anything.

 

[Will]

Zombie is a Steve Alt and Enderman is a Alex alt, so whatever animations either have will probably translate into them as well.

I think Zombie and Enderman are their own individual skins separately outside of Steve and Alex, because they'll probably be called Zombie and Enderman.

 

[RGFS]

Poor Rex, if that turns out to be true.

I'm almost certain Steve was planned or considered since Banjo released. I can imagine they were gonna make a Steve costume but Nintendo, Microsoft and/or Sakurai decided to leave the door open for Steve in the future.

 

[TheBeastHimself]

What if each stage has a unique resource for Steve to mine (like, Battlefield had iron as shown in the trailer?) Like, some stages give iron, others give diamonds, etc. Certain stages naturally give Steve an advantage.

That could drastically affect the competitive scene's choices of legal stages.

 

[I.D.]

You didn't think he was done yet with Smash, did you

Also, for Americans this was literally a GOOOOD MOOOOOORNING presentation. That's hilarious.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Not sure if anyone shown this yet.

 

[Trevenant]

Well we saw iron being mined in the trailer, so maybe he has resources you can keep track of?

Seems the most likely. The blocks seem to expend pretty quickly actually now that you mention it. If he pretty much just had to hit the stage or the opponent it may not be too much of a problem although I can see it being a learning curve for some.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I think Zombie and Enderman are their own individual skins separately outside of Steve and Alex, because they'll probably be called Zombie and Enderman.

They are. You can see it on the website right now.

 

[TheBeastHimself]

Oh god are we going to hear the announcer shout "ENDERMAN"

 

[Will]

They are. You can see it on the website right now.

It's a shame they couldn't bring Skeleton into this.

 

[Deleted member]

Broke: Steve being negotiated for 3 years means the entire 2nd pass was pre-planned.

Woke: FP2 is a big budget pass filled with 3rd parties.

Bespoke: Nintendo is throwing together FP2 only because they were obligated to put Steve in.

 

[Teeb147]

I'd like to see a poll to see how many people think it's good minecraft is in the game, but aren't glad personally for them to be in Seems like there's quite a few.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

What if each stage has a unique resource for Steve to mine (like, Battlefield had iron as shown in the trailer?) Like, some stages give iron, others give diamonds, etc. Certain stages naturally give Steve an advantage.

That could drastically affect the competitive scene's choices of legal stages.

I personally hate this idea for that reason. I don't think it's a good idea to make factors outside matchups dictate advantages and disadvantages. It would be especially bad if one of the stages made him pretty broken and they had to ban a stage because of it.

It's a shame they couldn't bring Skeleton into this.

Must be karma for the lady who spoke ill of Steve.