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Notra vs Lain and LCancel(Icee and Olimar MU Help)

Notra

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Sup falcos. Just had a tourney where i played pretty much all of the best of w/e char in the MW. i live in michigan so i got so rly good videos of falco vs lain, anther and LCancel.

To be fair L cancel did beat me in winners keep this in mind. and Lain got 2nd only to judge. and IMO LCancel is better than me even though r PR has us tied. I just think he is more consistent in how he plays in a tourney.(not gett greedy) Anyway heres the vids.

And also Lain ***** me first match. I wasnt rdy.....lol too good. Butgame 2 is the one to watch, i think that shows best why falco isnt ***** by icees. and vids vs anther should be up later today.


Notra
vs Lain
1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3iLLXwE5Go

Notra
vs Lain
2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh4SO9MhHqM

Notra
vs LCancel
1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8ZwZxnnekA



Others



Notra
vs Lain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q15LR8kR2oE

Notra
vs Xatic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVEgH7Mz0j4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3jYWMuGuQw

Notra
vs Soviet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIbjWoD77-4
 

J4pu

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what was that, I don't even.
Was lain on drugs?
he kept trying to force a grab to punish phantasm's cooldown lag
WHEN SOMETHING'S NOT WORKING STOP DOING IT, anything else could have knocked you out of phantasm instead of shielding it then trying to punish

on your part though, good job exploiting his errors and taking advantage of his lack of mu experience (or lack of sanity).
 

Notra

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Why the new thread? There's a thread for videos.
only made a new thread cause ppl wouldnt let icees go as a 45:55, and also been hearing concerns of olimar MU. It can be closed whenever, ill just repost in a MU thread when they parallel w. them.


@sole and yeah i see what u mean. but when falco trips in this match its a HUGE deal, it = death, no questions. but that is why we dont go even. (and other reasons)
 

J4pu

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sounds better suited for the video thread

but getting a ton of Falco vs *bad mu* videos together so that things can be analyzed more visually than theoretically does sound like a good idea
 

solecalibur

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@sole and yeah i see what u mean. but when falco trips in this match its a HUGE deal, it = death, no questions. but that is why we dont go even. (and other reasons)
Tripping vs ICs is never a good thing we all have that problem

btw 70:30 Falco <3 Zss
 

awesomeolion

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In the second game versus Lain he was at over 100% and you were at around 65% when nana died. You spent the next ~5 minutes avoiding bobo (i think that's his name). What did you have to gain from this? It looked like you were stalling? Just trying to get in his head?
 

Teran

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Playing safe against Popo is actually the right thing to do.

Oftentime people will go LOL SOLO CLIMBER and forget that he's still a character capable of doing damage.

Playing safe against Popo then landing the kill move at the right time (which isn't difficult since his recovery sucks solo), is the better way of approaching it.
 

SSSnake

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after defeating nana, you cant undrestimate the popo, or youll take lots of damage.
 

SSSnake

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well once you got one point more, than yeah popo is slow and you just stall the match.
 

pure_awesome

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Unless you intend on timing out the match (which, to be fair, is a pretty valid idea), then I really don't see the point in running from Popo. And with 6+ minutes left, there's no way you could have timed him out that long. Not with Falco on Smashville anyway. You just end up with more damage by the time he gets to his second stock and gets Nana back. Going into his second stock with only 70%-ish damage would have given you much more room to play with than you had.

Playing it safe vs Popo is a great idea. But you deliberately avoided landing kill moves when you had the opportunity (and in some cases straight up avoided hitting him) and that's what I don't understand. The vid against Oli is great.
 

Notra

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Unless you intend on timing out the match (which, to be fair, is a pretty valid idea), then I really don't see the point in running from Popo. And with 6+ minutes left, there's no way you could have timed him out that long. Not with Falco on Smashville anyway. You just end up with more damage by the time he gets to his second stock and gets Nana back. Going into his second stock with only 70%-ish damage would have given you much more room to play with than you had.

Playing it safe vs Popo is a great idea. But you deliberately avoided landing kill moves when you had the opportunity (and in some cases straight up avoided hitting him) and that's what I don't understand. The vid against Oli is great.
FYI NONE OF THIS **** WORKS ANYMORE VS LAIN. I HELPED HIM TRAIN BE MLG AT A SMASHFEST. SO HE KNOWS HOW TO STOP FALCOS BETTER. Dont do this if u play lain.
 

SSSnake

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whod he quit falco for? not MK. please not MK! MKs ruinin this game.
 

Notra

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I was ranked 8th in Mi when we had the pr, and I was better than iris. But he plays pit now. And I just won a local tourney. I don't know ur skill clowsui, but I can go even with a handful of ppl from Ohio, like infern, and Ive 3 stock king b. So if that helps u at all u can be the judge. if u wanted a Michigan reference I'd say the person I'm closest to is lcancel. But he is more consistent and travels More. So he is def better.
 
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