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Stupid as in they inhibit gameplay. All of them slow down the match.
None of them legitimately get in the way of gameplay as bad as one like Warioware does.
This is reason to CP the stage, as characters with stronger airgames will benefit from it. I'd also like to note that I've never died from G&W's u-air when jumping, and I play Olimar (who is pretty floaty).
Good reason to CP the stage, as characters who can produce "items" like Diddy, Dedede, and Zero Suit Samus (if it appears early enough in the match) have to use different strategies if they wish to continue using their items due to the stage pushing them off if they aren't paying attention. There's even a decent amount of platforms to fight on if you don't want to land on the conveyer belts (though you could also land on them on purpose if you want to move in their direction faster for whatever reason).
It forces you to change up strategy, which again, makes it CP-worthy. Also note a couple characters (like the IC's) aren't affected by the ice. I also recall Mic saying that ice and low gravity on stages were a reason to CP, not ban, but if he did it was quite some time ago...
when i was on here last, i thought we were making r.falls=cp...
If they had good low % combos then it'd work out for them since the stage is neutral at the beginning of the match, giving them time to work their magic, then it switches giving the otehr opponent the benefit, or making it a more even fight. Sounds ok for me?
Final Destination is highly annoying against good projectile spammers. That doesn't mean it should be banned.
People with good airgames can deal with it easily (or anyone of the person who tries to stall idles after their 3rd jump), not to mention it's only temporary.
There's platforms to perform them on, both in the middle and on the side.
Yes, completely ignore that the stage is normal most of the time. Do the combos at that time if one of the transformations is really that annoying.
Yes, let's not give people with strong airgames a counterpick option (although not exactly a reliable one... as I said, with only 2 transformations appearing during an average game, it may not even appear).
does frigate orpheon not OHKO when it turns? what about halberd?
King Dedede.
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not but he means ko'ing off the top of the screen.
It's Shadow Moses, a ban pretty much nobody is contesting.
Dedede chaingrab on walls.
There's 3 platforms and the transformation is temporary. Also, they could push you toward the enemy just as easily as away, so you can take advantage of the faster movement.
Floaty characters aren't the only ones who are sent up really high, ones with high jump power like Sonic could end up accidentally killing themselves, and the stage form is only temporary.
Habaker, being ignored basically means no one can think up any good arguments against you. You're winning. :]
...there's a HUGE track in the background of that particular section. The section actually gave the players 10 seconds or so of warning.
Hmm, I guess I didn't notice.
I will blame it on the crappy video quality, yes.You expect us to care about each and every challenge to the list 170 pages in? We've dealt with most of them and people can just go through the thread.
I actually watched that video awhile ago, and I noticed something about that particular section of Port Town that I later tested out to make sure it was true. The first three cars that drive by on that particular section are the warning. They don't have hitboxes. It's the shortest warning you get in any section of that stage.
The second car death is the one with barely any warning, not the first one.
Yeah.
The side cars have
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But it distracts from the gameplay, because it limits the amount of space you can be on before the treadmills push you off of the stage. They can't push you into your opponent, because they always run towards the stage edges.
Sonic probably would know when to stop so he didn't kill himself, and the temporary-ness doesn't matter. It still distracts from gameplay.
But what if your opponent is at the edge? There's plenty of reasons for them to be there, such as the opponent wanting to attack from the edge directly or you send them flying, but don't manage to kill them. It requires a change of strategy, which is what makes it CP-worthy.
If being temporary is meaningless then we should ban pokemon stadium 1 in both Brawl and Melee because the rock and fire formations have walls, from which Fox (and Falco in Melee and Wolf in Brawl) can wallshine off of indefinitely.
but he CAN stall with it,in fact,anyone with a high vert recovery can stall,yoshi can also spam his upB for a near infinite stall until the wind transformation ends-ban
I thought stalling was banned, not stages. Just because Sonic can Homing Attack Stall underneath Smashville does not mean that it is banned. Jigglypuff can jump for an extremely long time underneath Smashville, but that doesn't mean you ban Smashville. You ban stalling.
hm...i'd say to just memotize the 2 places where the cars come without warning, and just stay on high ground.
Any semi-intelligent person will hit you into the cars. There's one platform, and it's too small to hold two characters at once, which means someone is going to get killed by either the cars or being forced to walk into Snake/DDD/Bowser's FSmash after they ftilt you off.
Most of the tim those characters were stalling they were vulnerable
Ah! Sorry sorry! I didn't notice it was your video. I thought it was just some random Youtuber's. ... Don't hate me.
Stalling was never banned, but only certain stages that encourage it are. I mean, you could stall on any stage really, but those that lend themselves to the act are expressively banned.
so...are all of you ready to look out for the cars and finally make this a cp?
Walk-offs are banned for chaingrabbing like D3's right? Well if the cars are there, wouldn't that potentially stop chaingrabbing??
