MAN YOU PEOPLE POST TOO MUCH.
Spades - WHOLE COMMUNITY - because when the post blatantly calling Josh trash is ignored by several of you - at that point I think it very valid to assume you all think that way. Hanson was the only one that said CRAP before I posted, and that's because he's probably the best person out of all of you -_-;; And Spades - keep your positive voice out there, because other than Hanson this thread seems to be melee has-been's, neutral's, and the shining light of Hanson lol.
Sars - On Melee I will say this. I was a pro level SC2 player - glitches ANNOYED ME - and when I was primed to look into Melee after 64 play - I wouldn't deal with a 2+ page glitch list. I'm sorry to admit my view of how 'glitches' affected the SC community tainted my view of Melee, and respect the people and skill that built up in that game. HOWEVER - you also should realize my argument of you guys ignoring talent still stands - and that just you 'saying we moved on' isn't enough. Actions speak louder, and every time some of 'your best' are taken down, I hear the melee preference Brawl hate. Sorry, I've been there - do you travel at all?
IF YOU DON'T THINK PIKA 64 IS BROKEN - you don't know 64, stop arguing about it as such. IMO, Metaknight isn't even close to Pika, but I'll see later.
My perspective - is shared by others that Meta isn't god tier. What I was clearly saying is I'd stop calling out the whiners if I couldn't do as well as I thought. I never said I'd "affect the view of these boards" - I'd simply switch sides and perhaps be able to put up with the whiners more -_-;;; Very doubtful though.
SARS PIRATE - I'VE TRAVELLED FOR 64 - MELEE - AND SSBB - my post count doesn't mean ****, idiot.
And I'm not 'important' nor do I consider myself as much as you seem to be giving me credit. I do however know I organize alot of SSBB tournaments that clearly YOU don't travel to, and am lined up to be the manager of a professional team of OK players - one SSBB player included. Thus I started tracking players, THUS I wandered back into your community to see you guys IGNORING wins. I've never posted much because to be frank - you guys always have came across clickish. Vegafuse, Po, one of the previous tops that moved back to AZ and maybe Zinth were the only ones that seemed nice about anything - and also, well, you guys post WAY too much lol.
Wave dashing = Melee - because it was one of the most significant "glitches" exploited by melee players, and frankly the one that represented Melee players the most - you guys were addicted to that stuff, going so far to use it as a crutch and a level of 'elitism' imo.
Hate for Brawl - is what the old guard seems to have. You try and get around it - but your arguments give you away for what you are. I praise those of you in this community that moved forwards, but clearly you guys are not a 100% representation of your community. There are melee fanatics that STILL curse Brawl and want their precious melee back every time they come to a brawl tournament and lose.
Oh - don't lump me in with BRAWL PLAYERS - btw. I don't speak for them, if anything I'm a 64 player that hates Melee on levels, and deals with Brawl better - hoping we 64 and Melee players can finally find peace in a SSBB world
And stop looking down on my skill level, you who thinks post count is everything *rolls eyes*. I'm not the best, but I'm at least decent enough to end up top half at the tournaments I've gone to. Yea - gone to - are you 'yowanra' or whoever they mention who haven't gone to any recent tournaments?
OMG DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OTHER GAMES?!@#?!@#?!@# Characters are banned ALL THE TIME!@# Infinites - BANNED ALL THE TIME@# You frustrate me lol.
And frankly - you are the only one that seems 'disdained' - everyone else seems to be discussing the issues. I guess your just a hater?
Now that I know you think post count ='s traveling and skill, I'll probably start to naturally ignore you more anyway...
However, if you are being negative, and combative? I'll be right there when I'm dragged into it to post again.
TULSA VS OKC - you want it, "officially call it" then. I don't want to be accused of saying one loud mouth speaks for you all.
Shade - he's your friend, I understand. HOWEVER - your ignoring others in your community that are winning the tournaments seemed old guard hating on new blood -esque, and I already get that vibe from you guys anyway. Thus my concern - if it's just you - that'd be fine
But I don't think it is... Course, maybe your all just friends with Chris and want to defend him. No one is questioning his Melee record, but in SSBB - he's not top dog, why can't you guys be happy for those who are currently?
And FRIENDS?!@
Let's make something clear. Other than sheer conversation time due to driving, I'm "just as much friends" with Vegafuse and Zinth as I am with Josh and Anthony and Hanson. The only "smash players" that I can guarantee friendship with are 64 players, thanks. Are Josh, Anthony, Max, Hanson, Zinth, Vega, Chris, Po, Gay$$ and others I've met, played with, etc cool? So far yea. Would I think they consider me a friend? That I know of no - I'm not so presumptuous. I'm a fellow player in a community of players, and that's all I'd assume I am to any of them.
My response on the Josh situation is the SAME response I'd have for ANY OF YOU if I saw you win 5 out of the last 6 tournaments, and your community ignored that. I've been told "Why do you talk about Zinth so much - he's not that good" - because I've seen him do well, simply put, I respect that as a result. Why would I respect and request Kos-Mos' opinion at a tournament? AND HAVE? Because I know he's a leader in the community. Duh. (Of course, that opinion lead me down the fated "SSBB controller mapping debate" that no one else knew about -_-, LOSE CHRIS LOSE.)
Don't believe me? Ask Max or Anthony - I've been at Melee tournaments held in Tulsa - and looked players right in the face and told them they weren't very good, that OKC Melee players were way better. OMG - NEUTRALITY?! Maybe. This isn't about Tulsa vs OKC until you make it that way, and keep in mind, with ignoring Josh, and acting like if you don't post here you are trash, that's how it comes across.
I've asked him about this - Josh uses MK - because he needs a counterpick to his PT. He uses it for tournaments, and well, who wouldn't?!@ If your going to a tournament - your there to get experience, perhaps. Maybe your even there to get past your tournament nerves, but...
...the rest are there to win. If MK is one of the best characters currently - why not go with that? No one hates on BR's in Halo - because your cheating by using the best gun? Sure tier whoring is annoying, but EVERY FIGHTING GAME HAS IT. For you guys actually ignoring who is good in your community because they use a certain character as a counterpick - makes Smash look REALLY BAD!! I hope you stop, because whatever character it is, no matter how much your 'just blowing off steam' - others are around, and watching. You never know who you have and will run off with such biased talk and trash thinking.
And all my 'back water Melee players' perspective? Is from being around, and hearing gamers in your community talk that way. No 2 minute video Sars - sorry brah. No random hate for melee. 64 was better - but hey
In the end - my opinions are from what I've seen in person, and heard from those there; you want to hate me for hearing what your community says, sorry, I'm just the messenger.
I'm fine with the hate btw, just so long as it brings up the discussions to improve a gaming community in OK.
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