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No. It's easier to do tilts with a sliding effect straight out the DPC if you have the C-stick set to "Attack," but you can do it manually if you have C-Stick set to Smash and you have enough control and timing with the Analog Stick.
Thanks for your prompt response
Basically, no. For the character to have a good slide, he/she/it must have a window of opportunity long enough that it'll allow the character to get speed by running the other way before the attack. Olimar's window of opportunity is very small, so you must attack right after he starts moving the other way, and thus he has no speed. Like I said a few posts back, to see your character's window of opportunity just hold shield as he runs the other way; when the shield comes out, the window of opportunity ended.
this is sparta
That's comparing apples and oranges, since a true pivot is done at the very beginning of a new dash, whereas this is done once you're past the initial dash. Its main usefulness is the sliding effect and being able to merely appear to be running forward with Yoshi, when you're actually still in the turn-around and can attack at any moment.
This would be insanely unwise, because the turn-around takes a long time, and you'd have to do the turn-around within Smashing range anyways. It's the equivalent of trying to run up to your opponent and charging a Falcon Punch in his face.
You can do any move.
Unless they are facing away from you when you approach....maybe. Even then, it's very situational and probably not the best choice.
Well I'm not sure exactly how well the Toon Link Dsmash thing works or if only the first hit has to hit. I've always gotten both hits with Toon Link and this technique, but it still seems to provide the good horizontal knockback despite the second hit connecting. It's kind of like the second hit is a "phantom hit" and doesn't change the knockback to vertical like it would normally.
Vid for one going forward:
It doesn't do much for Olimar.DanGR said:
That video was completely unrelated to what I found. You were showing dash dancing, and thats not what this is about. Also, you might want to work on your grammar, since it was ridiculously hard for me to read that paragraph.
No, that is IASA frames during the dash stop animation which, ironically, I figured out the same day I did this. In fact, I made a video of it. But it turns out that for everybody but Yoshi, its faster or equal speed to simply shield, drop the shield, and attack.
Your thinking about dphana's video of the true pivot with marth.
yeah. I have to agree this tech has been known a long time, people just never went out to mention it works with other characters and other attacks other then UP A. I've done this with squirtle all the time.
Well that's an incredibly pompous thing to say. That's like saying that Benjamin Franklin shouldn't have gotten any credit for the lightbulb, because nature provided the electricity. SamuraiPanda took a technique that may or may not have been known to him (shell shifting) and applied it to all characters. You're claiming that Squirtle players found it first, which apparently is true, but here's the question: why do people who don't play PT care at all about what Squirtle can do?
Yeah, that's the vid I saw. Thanks for clearing that up