Smash 3DS Patch 1.02 changes

[Cactusblah]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/axcj/update/index.html

Fixes Peach players getting banned from online play due to random items.
Also some other problems were fixed so that "customers can play the game comfortably"

What could the other problems be? Can anyone check if the ZSS infinite against Robin was fixed? If not, maybe Nintendo would patch that as well if they become aware of it?

 

[Gidy]

Was vectoring patched/removed?

 

[Pirate Goomba]

These fixes would come with the game in other regions right?

 

[KaZe_DaRKWIND]

I've heard Rush cancelling was removed but no confirmation yet.

Edit: Deconfirmed.

 

[DougX]

Well, it's nice that they're on top of getting some issues fixed up. c:

 

[Narpas_sword]

These fixes would come with the game in other regions right?

I'd doubt it.

Surely the game is through production already and boxed up.

 

[DakotaBonez]

Why can't they just explicitly state what the other changes are? ughhhhhh

 

[TeaTwoTime]

Was vectoring patched/removed?

There is literally zero chance that it will be removed.

 

[Gidy]

There is literally zero chance that it will be removed.

Ugh. I can't say I had hope. I guess this is good and was the point of there being a Japanese release first. Stuff like this worldwide would be a disaster.

 

[Khao]

I can't help but to wonder.

If they actually do balance patches, bugfixes or any mechanical changes, as minor as they could be...

What the **** will happen if you watch a replay featuring stuff from a from a previous version?

'Cause that could get ugly.

 

[Fire Tactician]

I can't help but to wonder.

If they actually do balance patches, bugfixes or any mechanical changes, as minor as they could be...

What the **** will happen if you watch a replay featuring stuff from a from a previous version?

'Cause that could get ugly.

Well, the replay is probably just a saved video. You don't need the exact mechanics to remain to recreate what happened visually.

 

[Beninator]

I can't help but to wonder.

If they actually do balance patches, bugfixes or any mechanical changes, as minor as they could be...

What the **** will happen if you watch a replay featuring stuff from a from a previous version?

'Cause that could get ugly.

I've thought about the same thing ever since I realized this game could be patched!

 

[Aunt Jemima]

Well, the replay is probably just a saved video. You don't need the exact mechanics to remain to recreate what happened visually.

Replays aren't saved as videos. They're recorded character movements and inputs that are just played back.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Replays aren't saved as videos. They're recorded character movements and inputs that are just played back.

In other words, the replay data is exactly the same as Brawl's replay data. And the sad part is that in Brawl, the replay data's coding can get messed up without any warning.

 

[relaxedexcorcist]

Maybe the replays can remember old builds of the game somehow...

 

[Igneous42]

I can't help but to wonder.

If they actually do balance patches, bugfixes or any mechanical changes, as minor as they could be...

What the **** will happen if you watch a replay featuring stuff from a from a previous version?

'Cause that could get ugly.

I mean, other fighting games have done this with no problem. Maybe they save them in a different way but I don't see why it should be an issue.

 

[Fire Tactician]

In other words, the replay data is exactly the same as Brawl's replay data. And the sad part is that in Brawl, the replay data's coding can get messed up without any warning.

Ah, I knew that Brawl's worked like this but didn't know that it's been confirmed that it's the same in SSB4.

I just downloaded the patch from the eShop but my game didn't patch... am I doing something wrong?

 

[Aunt Jemima]

In other words, the replay data is exactly the same as Brawl's replay data. And the sad part is that in Brawl, the replay data's coding can get messed up without any warning.

Mario Kart 8's ghost data is character inputs and movements, too, and that doesn't mess up or corrupt. I'm sure they've fixed whatever breaks it, so I think it's going to be alright.

I'm not sure if MKTV saves them as character movements, too, but I think it actually does so the file size isn't huge. It probably just records it or builds a video or something when you upload to YouTube.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Ah, I knew that Brawl's worked like this but didn't know that it's been confirmed that it's the same in SSB4.

It does remain to be seen if the replays will operate differently for the Wii U version though. It would actually be neat if we can share our matches on YouTube.

 

[Gameboi834]

Can we call this patch the Peach Patch?

 

[K-45]

I've heard Rush cancelling was removed but no confirmation yet.

Edit: Deconfirmed.

I don't think they will remove it. megaman needs all the little buffs he can get besides if no one plays him he might recieve buffs over time.

 

[DtJ SmithZzz]

Was vectoring patched/removed?

lmao at ur petition to remove a game mechanic loooooooolijkhg

 

[Yikarur]

The Game warns you when you're saving a replay that the replay does not work with future versions of the game.

 

[Captain Norris]

From what I understand they changed some of the menu descriptions on the touchscreen. Just a few. Anyone want to check up on this?

 

[SuperGuzzi]

The Game warns you when you're saving a replay that the replay does not work with future versions of the game.

That is.. really sad D: If I remember correctly, in Team Fortress 2 (or maybe every source game) when you save a replay (it works exactly like smash's) It still works after several patched, because they save previous versions in order to don't mess with the replays.

 

[Gidy]

lmao at ur petition to remove a game mechanic loooooooolijkhg

Is this a bad thing?

 

[Raijinken]

Some games state that when a new version is released, past save games/replays/stuff won't work. Saddening, but an inevitable part of any non-video replay.

But yea, hoping for some proper balance patching. Just... not yet. Too soon for that. Every 1-3 months at the absolute fastest.

 

[Reila]

Was vectoring patched/removed?

Vectoring is not a bug or glitch, so they are not going to patch it. The stupid ZSS infinite is a bug, so I hope they fix it ASAP.

These fixes would come with the game in other regions right?

Of course not, the game has gone gold already at this point.

 

[[TSON]]

We saw a desync on vgbootcamp iirc when spectating a match so I'm sure they patched that up. I think if it affected balance they would probably specifically call it out. Or I'd like to believe, I should say.

 

[Ganreizu]

Is this a bad thing?

It's certainly annoying.

 

[johnthebonfire]

Where is my D-pad moving functionality? Dont judge me

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

It's good to see Peach players being able to play online. :3

I too, wish we could get more information on what they updated, but what can you do. Anyway, hopefully a good majority of bugs and problems that are found are fixed before the game goes international.

 

[25%Cotton]

I can't help but to wonder.

If they actually do balance patches, bugfixes or any mechanical changes, as minor as they could be...

What the **** will happen if you watch a replay featuring stuff from a from a previous version?

'Cause that could get ugly.

the game specifically gives you a warning that with coming updates it may become impossible to watch your old videos.

so the only safe option is to record them :v
maybe there'll be a way to send them to miiverse/youtube like with MK8 when the worldwide release happens and/or the release of the new3DS

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Balance patch is waaaayyyyy to early at this point if they are gonna try to do that, this is mostly to fix the very large bug of Peach players getting banned.

Might fix other things but so far this seems to be it, rest might come later but I'd wait on that for a long while.

 

[Ehn Jolly]

Yeah, let's wait until the game is out everywhere before we start balancing things, as the meta's still pretty mutable.

 

[Dragoomba]

Why can't they just explicitly state what the other changes are? ughhhhhh

I knew Nintendo wouldn't even be able to do patchnotes correctly.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Where is my D-pad moving functionality? Dont judge me

Non-existent apparently. Of course, the directional pad is also used to choose your victory pose after a group mode match, so that may explain the story as well.

 

[Ragna22]

I can't help but to wonder.

If they actually do balance patches, bugfixes or any mechanical changes, as minor as they could be...

What the **** will happen if you watch a replay featuring stuff from a from a previous version?

'Cause that could get ugly.

Tekken Tag Tournament and Blazblue handled that pretty well actually, within the replay they'll show you what version of the game the replay was recorded in and they'll run exactly as they did during the time of those versions and since Namco helped make Smash 4 I don't think that'd be an issue.

Also to those who don't seem to think these patches will make it outside Japan, do you seriously think that Nintendo would send this game overseas knowing full well that there's a bug that makes Peach unplayable online? There DOES exist day 1 patches ya know, just saying.

 

[KaZe_DaRKWIND]

Of course, the directional pad is also used to choose your victory pose after a group mode match, so that may explain the story as well.

I did not know that.

 

[solitonmedic]

Son of a Peach.