Pika Q&A/FAQ Thread: Ask a Quick Question, Get a Quick Answer!

[Dark 3nergy]

its ok i found it and learned how to pivot walk. Working on pivot boosting, stutter step

the glide toss explanation pretty much put how pikas works into good perspective. The timing is still pretty demanding, its about as tough as snakes/ MKs.

 

[febs]

Any tips or opinions for a pikachu and snake team in doubles?

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

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Super early kills with X move to thunder. You can regrab out of his F-throw and B-throw, and he can regrab out of your D-throw. Snake should be the passive player, Pikachu the aggressive one. It is a fun team that ***** pretty hard.

 

[gamesuxcard]

sticky pika a lot.

 

[febs]

thanks esam and isaccard.
why sticky pika though? does it come off and attach onto the opponent during pikachu's chain grab or something?

 

[Ussi]

thanks esam and isaccard.
why sticky pika though? does it come off and attach onto the opponent during pikachu's chain grab or something?

Think of it as a game of tag. The person "It" has the bomb on them. (a sound is made when the switch happens)

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Stickying isn't actually good. It ends up becoming too much of a nuisance and if you lose track of it for a second you are screwed. You are also most likely going to try to attack them WAY more if you have it on you, so you can get hit for a lot of damage...

 

[gamesuxcard]

if there's four people on the stage, if you get even a second alone i would sticky pika. doubles are hectic, it'll get off. if they camp, throw sparks and gernandes. you can just wait for the time release and sheild, or jump in and airdodge if you're counting the seconds.

but that's just me , depending on how you play and you don't want to get more junk to make things crazy stickying might not be awesome for you. expirement.

 

[altairian]

If they're camping and you needed it off why would you do something as risky as counting the seconds when you can just hold shield and tell your partner to blow it up?

 

[gamesuxcard]

because air dodging with the explosion is AWESOME!
but that works too

 

[Shurely]

quick question, does pikachu need a secondary or are his bad match ups able to be handled well enough? and if you were to pika secondary who would you pick out of non s/a tier characters?

 

[Stealth Raptor]

he only has one really bad matchup in marth, other then that most matchups are quite managable, even marth to some extend is managable. he doesnt need a secondary per se but it is nice to have if you feel comfortable in certain matchups

 

[iiDEMIGODz]

What move is best to use if I escape MK's Mach Tornado, and I'm above him? I watched a Toon Link last weekend punish like crazy with his D-AIR.....so I'm just curious as to what pika move works best!

Thanks.

 

[Leaf.]

What move is best to use if I escape MK's Mach Tornado, and I'm above him? I watched a Toon Link last weekend punish like crazy with his D-AIR.....so I'm just curious as to what pika move works best!

Thanks.

I've always used Dair. Just make sure MK isn't going to get out of the way first, it sucks to hit the side of the tornado.
Also, I think he can hit back if he doesn't fly far enough away, so be careful of how close he is after you do it.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Fair would be the best because it leads into nair or grab.

 

[iiDEMIGODz]

Fair would be the best because it leads into nair or grab.

I'm not doubting the ESAM, but FAIR will hit him, and not cause me to get sucked into the tornado again?

I'm gonna go try DAIR and FAIR, and see how that works.

 

[gallax]

i agree with esam. i use fair and try to get my head to hit the center of the top of the tornado. it pops mk up a little and it leads to a combo.

edit: its actually like the back of pikas head to hit the center.

 

[M15t3R E]

Unless MK is only inches from the ground when fair hits MK and cancels his tornado, it is highly doubtful it'll lead to grab or nair or anything at all.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

So you fall with him?

If you pop up, I'm assuming it's near the end. SO you follow his DI and hit him with fair. That's what I normally do when I get hit by tornado, or try to do at least..

 

[M15t3R E]

Perhaps. But it's easily avoidable by the MK. I'm not disagreeing with you. Relatively speaking, it's still the best strat against his tornado. That thing is not easily counterable whatsoever.

 

[KayLo!]

@Shurely: What Stealth said..... but if you feel you need a secondary, Snake and MK are pretty good ones. I've also heard good things about Wario, DDD, and Marth, but if you pick Marth and aren't comfortable with the Marth MU with Pika, you'll be stuck doing dittos......

It really depends on which matchups you personally have trouble with as Pika, because besides Marth (and even that's debatable), everything else is manageable with enough experience.

 

[iiDEMIGODz]

Perhaps. But it's easily avoidable by the MK. I'm not disagreeing with you. Relatively speaking, it's still the best strat against his tornado. That thing is not easily counterable whatsoever.

Yeah, I'm more or less looking for ANYTHING to counter the tornado. I'm not very experienced against MKs (which seems like a terrible weakness), and I tend to fail against it. Pikachu's shield is so small blocking through it doesn't seem viable...unless I'm missing something.

 

[M15t3R E]

Most brawlers struggle against MK's, this is nothing new. The best piece of advice I can give you for them is one quoted from Isai himself, "don't jump into the ****". Do NOT go all aggro. Be patient, and punish them. They will drop their guard from time to time.

 

[gallax]

Most brawlers struggle against MK's, this is nothing new. The best piece of advice I can give you for them is one quoted from Isai himself, "don't jump into the ****". Do NOT go all aggro. Be patient, and punish them. They will drop their guard from time to time.

unless ur esam, which in that case u can be super aggessive and not give a da..

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Lol y'know I did lose to tyrant...

 

[vato_break]

yeah esam is bad

 

[SaveMeJebus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=530U-ZMz0Xk

how come there is nothing about this anywhere?

 

[Pikabunz]

Because it's really hard to do and only works on certain characters.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

lol i remember that. yeah completely useless sadly :/

 

[Leaf.]

Fun to look at, though. I don't think I knew about it...

 

[iiDEMIGODz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=530U-ZMz0Xk

how come there is nothing about this anywhere?

My jaw dropped a little when I watched that. Too bad everyone immediately posted that it didn't work that well.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

it works but there are better options, and its limited to only a few characters.

 

[Syko_Lemming]

How are there better options than 50% in like 4 seconds?

 

[Stealth Raptor]

you could just continue the combo, ie uair to footstool etc.

 

[Syko_Lemming]

I suppose. It would be easier to keep a footstool string or QAC lock going than to land that just once?

 

[Zeroxius]

I'm having difficulty approaching Snakes at the moment. And there are a lot of snake players here in the Monmouth area. I have a couple ideas. Since I also play snake, I found that Fthrow X10 > Uthrow is a great tactic, because it sets them up for a thunder if they are surprised and don't DI, and Snake sucks huge balls in the air. I can just juggle them from there, and hopefully get a thunder kill.

Spamming Tjolt from afar also is effective at annoying snakes because it stops their grenades. His missles can be easily Powershielded, and I seem to have luck predicting other Snake's Mortar Slides. It's just that I somehow always lose. I got sooooo close to beating this snake at the last tourney, but I got eliminated before I could get him with a good Nair or Usmash (He was at around 150% somehow.) He kept missing with Utilts, so he somehow killed me with Fthrow. -.-

Any advice on killing Snakes? I mostly need advice on approaching, because I have trouble getting in close so I can abuse Pika's CGs and Snake's air weakness.

Thanks a lot! =D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=530U-ZMz0Xk

how come there is nothing about this anywhere?

I think I just came.

 

[gamesuxcard]

If a snake is not di ing after ten f throws you are playing a bad player.

for approaching snakes, i throw a lot of tjolts, instant throw gernandes back, and when you're in his area just play smart. powersheild dem u tilits since they have so much range+his other tilts, they all have enough time for you to punish effectively. you really just have to play safe.

for killing snakes I usually kill with an upsmash oos after powersheilding something, a nair when he's in the air and it's fresh, thunderwalls and footstool/cypher grabs. getting him off the stage with ftilt out of sheilding junk is good too.

also, if you notice a snake is mashing when you're buffering a dthrow chaingrab, he won't have a jump and you can just let him go at the end with no jump since he mashed, and if he does realize it in time to try and c4 recover, just jump down and footstool.

 

[KayLo!]

Fthrow x10 is guaranteed on Snake, but generally they won't let you grab them in a position where you can do 10 in a row. (I don't even think FD is that long......)

Don't think the usmash is guaranteed, though...... (not sure if you were referring to that or the CG, isaccard).

 

[Zeroxius]

K. Thanks a lot guys! =D

Gonna do good at the tourney on Saturdayz..!

 

[gamesuxcard]

i meant if a snake isn't holding di after a fthrow chaingrab they're probably bad.

and i meant if a snake is on you ftilting and you powersheild it, you can upsmash oos.