Hayang
Smash Journeyman
I haven't seen a Pit boards matchup thread for this week or last week, so if maniaclyrasist doesn't mind, I'm taking the chance to start a thread on a matchup I've recently been pondering.
Yes, I realize there are many matchup reviews being requested from other boards right now, but let's keep one going on here about a character we haven't already discussed.
(I was in the middle of typing this long thing up when like 3 new matchup threads popped up out of nowhere, and I don't feel like saving this for later. If we are busy with things we can take our time; we don't have to constrain discussions to a week.)
Master Match-Up Thread
10/16: I think I'll hold the invitation to the TL boards until we are well on our way with the other matchup discussions on other boards. If you think otherwise please say so.
10/17: Thanks Maniacly. :D
Pit vs Toon Link (I'll put up a more interesting picture soon!)
Toon Link, it seems to me, is an extremely versatile character; no two TL's I've played ever seemed very much alike save a few tactics they had in common (Bair rush, Projectile spam).
I think this is a very interesting matchup and it hasn't been very well discussed. so discuss!
I would put a Pros/Cons list here like previous threads but the TL boards didn't seem to have a definitive guide I could leech from, so I give you the "Stats" of Toon Link as evaluated by JesiahTEG:
Your thoughts?
Yes, I realize there are many matchup reviews being requested from other boards right now, but let's keep one going on here about a character we haven't already discussed.
(I was in the middle of typing this long thing up when like 3 new matchup threads popped up out of nowhere, and I don't feel like saving this for later. If we are busy with things we can take our time; we don't have to constrain discussions to a week.)
Master Match-Up Thread
10/16: I think I'll hold the invitation to the TL boards until we are well on our way with the other matchup discussions on other boards. If you think otherwise please say so.
10/17: Thanks Maniacly. :D
Pit vs Toon Link (I'll put up a more interesting picture soon!)
Toon Link, it seems to me, is an extremely versatile character; no two TL's I've played ever seemed very much alike save a few tactics they had in common (Bair rush, Projectile spam).
I think this is a very interesting matchup and it hasn't been very well discussed. so discuss!
I would put a Pros/Cons list here like previous threads but the TL boards didn't seem to have a definitive guide I could leech from, so I give you the "Stats" of Toon Link as evaluated by JesiahTEG:
Stats
Overall Offense: 3/5
Quickness: 3/5
Quickness is the ability to attack without being punished, and also the ability to punish your opponent's mistakes. Toon Link is quicker than a lot of characters, but his moves lack the amazing speed required to constantly punish your opponent, whether it's them missing their attack, or Toon Link punishing out of shield. Snake's Ftilt and Marth's Dancing Blade are examples of extremely fast moves.
Range: 3/5
Toon Link can outrange a good amount of the characters, but can't rely on spacing like Marth or DK can. Spacing is not a central part of Toon Link's game, but he can use it to his advantage in a good amount of matchups.
Priority: 4/5
Toon Link has a sword with a disjointed hitbox, so naturally he's going to have more priority than a ton of the cast. Other characters with swords, like Metaknight or Marth, or just plain retarted characters *cough Snake cough* can rival Toon Link's priority.
Power: 3/5
Toon Link's main problem is that he has trouble scoring kills, but he's not completely helpless like characters such as Sonic or R.O.B. He's more along the lines of Falco/Metaknight when it comes to killing.
Overall Defense: 4/5
Speed: 4/5
Speed refers to Toon Link's ability to run away from enemies when they get close. His running speed is great, and his spotdoge/roll are good.
Projectiles: 4/5 Toon Link's projectiles are amazing, and can keep around 90% of the cast far away, or at the least, force them to approach, which really highlights Toon Link's defensive game. R.O.B. and Pit are pretty much the only characters that have better projectiles than Toon Link.
Weight: 3/5
Toon Link is about middle on the weight list, give or take a few spots. He dies relatively easy compared to the characters that are above him, do don't expect to be living past 130 most of the time.
Recovery: 4/5
Toon Link's recovery is amazing. This is a result of the ridiculous range of his Up B, and his amazing aerial DI. The only real way Toon Link is going to be dying most of the time, is by destructing off screen...Otherwise, you should make it back to the stage almost everytime...Not to mention the fact that he has his tether recovery too, for more options.
Versatility: 5/5
Close Range-3/5
Like stated before, the only real way Toon Link can fight up close with decent results is either by fighting vs a slower character, or by using quick attacks like his Jab Series to get your opponent away from you. Most of the time, if you try and attack out of shield, your opponent can get their shield up or spotdodge your retaliation.
Mid Range-5/5
This is where Toon Link excels the most. At Mid Range, all of your projectiles will hit your opponent, and you can swat them away when they get close. You have many options at mid range...You can camp, move to long range, move to close range, bait an approach...The possibilities are endless really.
Long Range- 5/5
Toon Link's projectiles reach across almost every stage, his arrows having the most range. His long range game is top tier, along with R.O.B.'s and Pit's, although vs Toon Link, they beat him out in terms of camping. At any rate, staying at Long Range allows you to outcamp other characters like Olimar easier, who relies on Mid Range camping.
Mix Up Game- 5/5
Toon Link can easily switch between Short Range, Mid Range, and Long Range with success. At any range, he has a huge variety of options that allow him to stay unpredictable under any conditions.
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Pit - 5:5 Even This was supposedly Jesiah's matchup prediction, seeing as he had no write-up accompanying his numbers.
Your thoughts?