Pokemon Black and White (Spoiler Warning)

[Tomo Takino]

Desukan + Slaking

Get your opponent to target Desukan with a contact move so that their ability will change to Mummy. Then send in Slaking. Assuming they didn't switch out as you sent it in, Slaking can then attack them to get the Mummy ability for itself and discard its Truant ability. They'll probably switch once they see it, but you can just use Pursuit to hit them anyway.

 

[Kofu]

I hope I get my copy today.

I've got some translation things that should help me while playing it. I'm just so excited!

A lot of the Dream World Abilities are extremely good; probably intentional.

 

[Zook]

I have a feeling that Desukan is going to make a lot of new friends from older generations.

 

[Wave⁂]

So my spreadsheet is finished with Isshu overview, past gen. Dream World abilities, and sprites, but now I'm working on new items and moves. Anyone know where I can find a list them?

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

So what's everyones team idea on 5th gen?

I'm thinking:

Jadora + Desukan + Ononokusu + Croc Pokemon + Eel Pokemon + Hydra (and if he is legendary, some Pokemon for fly)

 

[Tomo Takino]

So my spreadsheet is finished with Isshu overview, past gen. Dream World abilities, and sprites, but now I'm working on new items and moves. Anyone know where I can find a list them?

I've been looking for myself, but can't find it. I find incomplete movelist, and no item list at all.

 

[Steelia]

So what's everyones team idea on 5th gen?

I'm thinking:

Jadora + Desukan + Ononokusu + Croc Pokemon + Eel Pokemon + Hydra (and if he is legendary, some Pokemon for fly)

Futachimaru + Gigaiasu + Zoroark + Oobemu + Wargle (trade) + Reshiram

...That would be my ideal team. But, I'll probably be switching out Wargle for something like Swanna, for Surf/Waterfall/Dive and such, so not to clog Futachimaru. Stupid exclusives... ;_;

 

[Kofu]

Something I just noticed...
Base experience yield has changed, as some Pokemon give more than 255 base.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

^ O yea, I want Zoroark too, but how shall we get him? Event D:

 

[Tomo Takino]

Something I just noticed...
Base experience yield has changed, as some Pokemon give more than 255 base.

Can you tell by how much and how the mechanics have changed exactly?

 

[Kofu]

I don't know if the yield mechanic has changed, or how many old Pokemon have had theirs changed.

It used to max at 255 (for the Blissey family and Arceus), but now it maxes at 390 with Tabunne (lol). All the new Legendaries have a higher base Experience Yield than 255, too.

 

[Wave⁂]

I guess that's a nice change. I'll still probably use Rare Candies, though.

 

[Pluvia]

That's a massive change.

 

[RuNNing Riot]

Lmao.

My sister apparently downloaded a ROM of Black for use on her R4 last night. Where does she GET this stuff?

Also, Reshiram's cry is really... odd.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Guys, new info here (especially 09:18 and down):

Spoiler

 

[Wave⁂]

Lmao.

My sister apparently downloaded a ROM of Black for use on her R4 last night. Where does she GET this stuff?

Also, Reshiram's cry is really... odd.

I heard the ROM doesn't work so well on the R4.

Also, from what I've heard about Feebas, that is a fantastic change.

 

[Fuelbi]

I just listened to the low HP music for the first time. I gotta admit, that was very creative on GF's part incorporating the beeping into the game. At least it makes it a hell of a lot less annoying since all I'm hearing isn't just a beep anymore. And it fits well into the tune as well

 

[Moozle]

I have a question; what is the Dream World?

 

[Fuelbi]

You get an item and upload your pokemon to the interwebz to interact with it and catch neato pokemon iirc

 

[Wave⁂]

Lurking Smogon, found some new stuff.

Items:
Rugged Helmet, Rough Skin Equivalent
Rechargable Battery, Boosts Attack one stage when hit by an Electric-type attack

Moves:

Butterfly Dance, Bug, Boosts SpAtk, SpDef, and Speed one stage
Get Even, Normal, Physical, 70 BP, 100%, Boost if opponent knocked a teammate last turn (1.5 or 2.0 boost, unconfirmed)
Power Share, Averages your and your target's Atk and SpAtk
Guard Share, Averages your and your target's Def and SpDef

 

[XACE-K]

I just looked at Serebii's updated version exclusive list and now I know I'm definitely getting White. I love all of it's exclusives except for Churine (the Oddish looking pokemon) but it can be traded for Monmen (the cloud thing which I like better).

 

[PowerBomb]

Oh god that Fire/Bug moth is gonna be ridiculous with Butterfly Dance.

Anyone know what Fire Dance does?

 

[Wave⁂]

Night Burst	Dark	Special	85	10	95%	May decrease target's accuracy
Nitro Charge	Fire	Physical	50	20	100%	May increase user's Speed
Wind Storm	Flying	Special	120	10	70%	Accuracy is 100% in weather
Fire Dance	Fire	Special	80	10	100%	May increase user's SpAtk one stage
Wild Bolt	Electric	Physical	90	15	100%	Absorbs 1/4 of damage dealt

 

[PowerBomb]

Aww. I thought Fire Dance would be like a Nasty Plot boost.

 

[Moozle]

Wind Storm is really good :o If Aakeosu gets the move, it'll be a great addition to sandstorm teams.

Edit: Oops I though it had 140 Sp. Attack and 112 attack, not the other way around. Oh well, 112 sp. attack is still pretty darn huge

 

[CT Chia]

how do i wake up the hihidaruma?

 

[M.K]

I believe you'll get the notice that you are now able to wake the Hihidaruma, I'm not sure there is actually a way to wake them up.

 

[majora_787]

Blegh... I'm getting white too. It has Wargle in it, among others, but I want the buzzard from black. Badly.

I like Feebas not having to be made beautiful anymore, it was new, but sorta...off.

>_< I don't see why everyone hates on the designs for the 5th gen, ESPECIALLY when we've had the epitome of bland that is 2nd, and the epitome of awkward that is 4th.

I mean sure we have an ice cream cone, but we have a family of live pokeballs. That doesn't scream creativity. >_< Not bashing the 'torb, I like it myself.

Also, the lantern is cool.

And types not making sense... Well, I saw ONE that doesn't make sense, and that's dark/fighting dino.

 

[Tomo Takino]

And types not making sense... Well, I saw ONE that doesn't make sense, and that's dark/fighting dino.

He's a hoodlum. He wears baggy pants, then gets a mohawk and a hoodie.

 

[majora_787]

He's a hoodlum. He wears baggy pants, then gets a mohawk and a hoodie.

o_O ....You're joking, right?

 

[Tomo Takino]

o_O ....You're joking, right?

No not at all. Its pretty obvious that's what his design was based on to me.

 

[Kofu]

Plus Zuruzukin wears his prevo's skin as a hoodie. That's boss.

 

[PowerBomb]

Does anyone know if the Archeopteryx has a Dream World ability?

 

[Zook]

Does anyone know if the Archeopteryx has a Dream World ability?

I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

I don't see what the big deal about his ability is, he doesn't look like he'd be able to take many hits in the first place.

 

[IsmaR]

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/260/f/3/zuruzukin_by_imgoingtothemoon-d2yw051.png

And I'm pretty sure there will be. If not, kind of a low blow by Ninty to make sure it stays not-broken.

 

[Zook]

For some reason beyond my comprehension, Gamefreak decided to give the new ant Pokemon Truant as its dream world ability.

The only way I can justify this is that it has 'ant' in it.

 

[LordoftheMorning]

I just realized might go for a mono-ghost type team. I tend to really like that type, and there's a bunch of interesting type combinations this time around.

 

[Kuraudo]

Apparently Genosect was a Pokémon intended to be revived by a fossil and powered up by Team Plasma, to create the world's most powerful Pokémon ever. I've seen its stats...

Eat your heart out, Isshu Region. Kanto's here to remind you what's up.

 

[Pete278]

Meh, like Mewtwo can do anything to it. Bam, physical bug move off of Genosect's silly Download-boosted attack. All hail Genosect, devourer of worlds.

 

[Steelia]

Meh, like Mewtwo can do anything to it. Bam, physical bug move off of Genosect's silly Download-boosted attack. All hail Genosect, devourer of worlds.

Genosect's probably my favorite Pkmn from this Gen, but it's nothing a Flamethrower-learned M2 can't handle.
...Also, Genosect can learn Fly. AWESOME.