Prejudices aside, if a few characters need to be cut who will they be?

[the smash nerd]

and

 

[Luigi#1]

Snake, Lucas, Wolf, Pokemon Trainer pokemon other than Charizard.

 

[QuickRat]

AND

Eliminate but put his moveset onto 's. Then change for Chrome. And 's moveset is so unique that would be a pitty if we loose it... so I would replace him by Andy (from Advance Wars).

So, yes, In my opinion, should return in Smash 4. And of course, wouldn't come back. is the only thing I'm not sure... I was a week ago... But now Greninja is in...

 

[Makaronileo]

Actualy It Seems Like Nintendo Care That Much About Custom Movesets.
Marios Moveset is Still Mario's Moveset
Links Moveset is Still Link's Moveset
They About It For A Very Short Amount Of Time, And The "original Moves" Many Of Them Had fancy Presentations.
So I Don't Think They Will Affect The Roster Att All, But I May Be Wrong.
Btw A Character Can Always Be De-Cloned:
Lucas: Alot Of Magic Spells
Ganondorf: From All Of His Many Appearences
Falco: I Don't Know, Barrel Rool (not relly)
=D

 

[Ove]

Jigglypuff? You can't cut anyone from the original 12!

Snake, (Sonic), R.O.B., Ike, Ivysaur, Squirtle, Pokémon Trainer, (Lucario), Lucas, Wolf, Falco

I think these characters don't add anything new to Smash.

 

[Megadoomer]

I can understand Lucas, Wolf, and Falco not adding anything to Smash Bros. (even if I don't believe it), and maybe even Ike if you really stretch the definition, but I don't see how R.O.B., the Pokemon Trainer, and both of the game's third party characters don't add anything new to the franchise.

 

[Wanderer from Roseyard]

I'm most worried about ... Ike because of Chrom's imminent confirmation. I can't justify THREE blue haired FE swordsman.

That sounds like more of a reason for not adding Chrom, though.

 

[Luigi#1]

I can understand Lucas, Wolf, and Falco not adding anything to Smash Bros. (even if I don't believe it), and maybe even Ike if you really stretch the definition, but I don't see how R.O.B., the Pokemon Trainer, and both of the game's third party characters don't add anything new to the franchise.

Pokemon Trainer is likely by this point. But with ROB, yeah. And what do you mean "Both"?

 

[Megadoomer]

Pokemon Trainer is likely by this point. But with ROB, yeah. And what do you mean "Both"?

Ove included both Snake and Sonic in their list of characters who didn't bring anything new to Smash Bros. I know that the Trainer's other two Pokemon are likely cut (either that, or Pokemon gets 7 or 8 individual characters, which seems implausible), but saying that the Pokemon Trainer didn't bring anything new to the game is nonsense.

 

[Luigi#1]

Ove included both Snake and Sonic in their list of characters who didn't bring anything new to Smash Bros. I know that the Trainer's other two Pokemon are likely cut (either that, or Pokemon gets 7 or 8 individual characters, which seems implausible), but saying that the Pokemon Trainer didn't bring anything new to the game is nonsense.

Ah, okay. Was it a post? If so quote it.

 

[QuickRat]

Jigglypuff? You can't cut anyone from the original 12!

Snake, (Sonic), R.O.B., Ike, Ivysaur, Squirtle, Pokémon Trainer, (Lucario), Lucas, Wolf, Falco

I think these characters don't add anything new to Smash.

Well... Excepting Falco and Lucas, every character in there has a unique moveset. I think we should not loose movesets like ROB's or Snake's...

 

[NocturnalQuill]

Among the Brawl roster, I feel like Snake, Ike, and Wolf or Falco are in the greatest danger of being cut. Squirtle and Ivysaur are all but confirmed cut at this point.

 

[QuickRat]

Yeah... Squirtle and Ivysaur are almost out. By the way, what do you guys think about Ice Climbers? I love them, but the hasn't been any refference to them as it has already been to Ness, Ct. Falcon or Wario.

 

[NocturnalQuill]

Yeah... Squirtle and Ivysaur are almost out. By the way, what do you guys think about Ice Climbers? I love them, but the hasn't been any refference to them as it has already been to Ness, Ct. Falcon or Wario.

They're pretty popular, I highly doubt they're going anywhere. Probably unlockable.

 

[Curious Villager]

Yeah... Squirtle and Ivysaur are almost out. By the way, what do you guys think about Ice Climbers? I love them, but the hasn't been any refference to them as it has already been to Ness, Ct. Falcon or Wario.

Actually they did get a reference. The Polar Bear is back.

 

[QuickRat]

Hadn't see that! Oh, God, that gives me some hope!!

 

[Shorts]

For sure I think Snake, Squirtle, and Ivysaur are cut. I also think Jigglypuff, Ike, and possibly Wolf could be cut Other than them though, i would say everyone seems pretty safe.

 

[Shroob]

For sure I think Snake, Squirtle, and Ivysaur are cut. I also think Jigglypuff, Ike, and possibly Wolf could be cut Other than them though, i would say everyone seems pretty safe.

Considering we only have 4 Pokemon reps at the moment, I think Jiggles is safe.

 

[MangoTwist]

They brought back Toon Link, so I feel almost everyone is safe. I think Squirtle and Ivysaur are gone for sure, though, and there's a 50-50 chance for Snake. Everyone else has a pretty good shot of returning.

 

[Shorts]

Considering we only have 4 Pokemon reps at the moment, I think Jiggles is safe.

But there's always Mewtwo. They could both be in, but I could also see Mewtwo getting in over Jiggly. There will be five Pokemon, no doubt. It's just a matter of it's Jiggly or Mewtwo.

 

[Ryuutakeshi]

Squirtle and Ivysaur are most likely gone, my money is on Ike being replaced by Chrom, and since we have seen literally nothing regarding Snake (odd considering how Brawl promoted him and how both Brawl and 4 promote Sonic) we can probably say good bye to him. Jiggly is another option due to lack of relevance in her own series, and if worst comes to pass, Falco and Wolf might be axed. Let's face it. Star Fox has not gotten any love in a while..

 

[soviet prince]

I am hoping wolf stays he is the only starfox character I like to play as, just change the final smash

 

[QuickRat]

Ike is going to be replaced by Chrom, I think that's what most of us think. But the problem is what to do with Snake. He had mines, rockets, granades and some other gadgets I wouldn't remove from Smash. So... I guess Saku is going to replace Snake with an Advance Wars character. I think it could fit perfectly with most of Snake's moveset. And it is also a very loved franchise that should have representation in SSB.

 

[Ryuutakeshi]

It did in brawl. Is Nintendo Wars even still making games?

 

[QuickRat]

It did in brawl. Is Nintendo Wars even still making games?

Just an assist trophy.

 

[Ryuutakeshi]

Just an assist trophy.

That's still getting representation.

 

[QuickRat]

That's still getting representation.

I meant representation in the roster. Advance Wars is one of the most sucessful Nintendo series in terms of critics. Also, it could give more variety to the gameplay. And, if Snake is going out, an Advance Wars character could take his moveset. So... Why not?

 

[GiantBoyDetective]

That's my guess.

 

[YT123]

Hadn't see that! Oh, God, that gives me some hope!!

The Ice Climbers are already pretty much confirmed. Sakurai said in an interview that they had some trouble getting them to work on the 3DS, but looking at footage from Rosalina + Luma it's pretty clear that they've got it all working now. And aside from that, they already made the jump from Melee to Brawl, so I see no reason why they wouldn't make it again.

 

[abrinx77]

As of right now, I think that and are gone. Charizard is solo, and I don't think the other two are that massively popular enough to stand on their own. Greninja pretty much seals Squirtle's fate. That on top of the fact that we still haven't seen or and those two are sure fire gone. Snake is out IMO because his moveset is already being shipped around. Sheik's "new" grenade move is a reskinned snake grenade, and that steel diver gun, while not identical to Snake's rockets, are similar enough. Others on the chopping block include and OR . Ike is in danger not only because Chrom could take his spot, but also because of the huge popularity of Roy in Japan, and the possibility that he could very well return. Lucas is in danger because he is a semi-clone, and unless he is overhauled, I think he goes before ever will. I am feeling very strongly that one of the space animals could go. One of them needs a moveset overhaul and personally I think should get it as he is the more differentiated of the two as is, as well as being the antagonist/rival character. In the end, most characters are safe, and were all but confirmed between the direct, the press photos after, and Sakurai's previous comments(regarding Captain Falcon and Ice Climbers. So in the end. if characters have to be cut it will be as follows, IMO.
Already Gone:
Likely Going: and OR
Could be Cut if Necessary:
Safe:

 

[TheUltraDeino]

Really Ike would be cut if Chrom is infact confirmed.
Really, I think Ike could be cut, and then parts of his moveset could be in Chrom and a revived Roy.
But if a new FE character happens to be announced, and it tuns out to be Robin or Anna (I believe she has been in almost every FE, right?), then Ike is staying.

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

I think Ike, Lucas, and Snake are in trouble.

 

[Nippo]

I think Ike, Lucas, and Snake are in trouble.

Why would Lucas be in trouble more than Ness?

 

[Shroob]

I just dunno about Falco. He's a two time veteran and while he could be cut, he wouldn't take much to de-clone imo. Give him an Arwing as a FS and if Wolf's cut, merge some of Wolf's stuff into him and he'll be good to go.

He's such a fan favorite and I'm pretty sure Sakurai knows that.

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

Why would Lucas be in trouble more than Ness?

Ness joined Smash Bros first, his game is localized, and he's more iconic.

I don't think Lucas will get the boot unless the size of the new roster isn't much bigger compared to Brawl.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

AND

Eliminate but put his moveset onto 's. Then change for Chrome. And 's moveset is so unique that would be a pitty if we loose it... so I would replace him by Andy (from Advance Wars).

So, yes, In my opinion, should return in Smash 4. And of course, wouldn't come back. is the only thing I'm not sure... I was a week ago... But now Greninja is in...

GO.....LOOK....AT....THE...MEWTWO....THREAD

 

[Fatmanonice]

I'm honestly surprised so many people still have cut heavy lists at this point. I said this in another thread but of every character whose ever been in the starting roster of a Smash game, there's now only 7 left () with the first 5 basically being confirmed in the Direct. We still have 3-4 months before the full roster is revealed and, given we got 9 characters in the span of four months and still have E3 yet to go, a lot of my doubts have been put to bed.

 

[Starphoenix]

GO.....LOOK....AT....THE...MEWTWO....THREAD

You can disagree without being obnoxious. This type of reaction isn't necessary.

 

[Kokusho]

No way in a millions years that Roy is in and Ike is cut. If by any chance Ike isn't back neither is Roy. That would not make any sense.

My money is on Ike + Robin/The Tactician.

 

[Megadoomer]

Thinking about it, the Direct might not have put as many characters in trouble as people (myself included) think.

For Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Mewtwo, the Pokemon franchise has gained two characters per Smash game depending on how you look at it (N64: Pikachu and Jigglypuff; Melee: Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Pichu, Mewtwo; Brawl: Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Lucario, Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard), and even if you don't count the Pokemon Trainer's Pokemon as separate characters, it still got two new characters in every instalment (even if there were two cuts in Brawl). Given that characters like Sheik and Zero Suit Samus weren't revealed at the same time as Zelda and Samus, and the development team seems hesitant to cut characters with unique movesets, it still seems possible that we'll see those characters make another appearance.

As for Snake, Sheik getting a grenade move doesn't seem to mean much, especially since it's her side-B attack as opposed to Snake's B move. Treating that as a sign that Snake's gone would be like saying that Fox is cut from Melee after Mario's reflecting cape was revealed. It seems highly likely that the two moves would act differently from each other.

Basically, it seems like it's a bit early to rule anybody out yet. That may be my sense of optimism talking, but I consider that to be a better mentality to have than being pessimistic and assuming that half of the Brawl newcomers have been cut due to incredibly vague reasons.