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[Lord Chair]

When MK rolls behind you, what do you do?

Shield? Your shield gets drained every second.

Spotdodge? You get grabbed on reaction.

Roll? He grabs your roll on reaction.

Nair? He just upbs that ****.

Jump? Icky at times, dangerous to do too often.

MIXUP: Jab away from MK so it auto-spaces out of his grab range. He can't punish on reaction when he's shielding, only if he decides not to shield.

k.

Brought to you by Europe, thank me later.

PS: Don't use fsmash instead, that's what an idiot would do.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

When MK rolls behind you, what do you do?

Shield? Your shield gets drained every second.

Spotdodge? You get grabbed on reaction.

Roll? He grabs your roll on reaction.

Nair? He just upbs that ****.

Jump? Icky at times, dangerous to do too often.

MIXUP: Jab away from MK so it auto-spaces out of his grab range. He can't punish on reaction when he's shielding, only if he decides not to shield.

k.

Brought to you by Europe, thank me later.

PS: Don't use fsmash instead, that's what an idiot would do.

Or he just does the nair style thingy

 

[Lord Chair]

no because nair is not a guaranteed punish lool

 

[(S!C)]

PS: Don't use fsmash instead, that's what an idiot would do.

why do you call me an idiot > : D

 

[MoNrA.1]

If a MK roll behind me I use shield then UpB OOS(if he try to grab me) :v

 

[Lord Chair]

If a MK roll behind me I use shield then UpB OOS(if he try to grab me) :v

That's another thing an idiot would do. Good point.

 

[Deathfox30]

or you could just use D Smash. The WEAK HIT does 10% this move is so broken. Weak hit of Mk's Nair only does 7% therefore Wario's D Smash > Mk's Nair

or use Up B, F smash or U smash

 

[Lord Chair]

or you could just use D Smash. The WEAK HIT does 10% this move is so broken. Weak hit of Mk's Nair only does 7% therefore Wario's D Smash > Mk's Nair

or use Up B, F smash or U smash

This is also bamboozling idiotic.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I didn't know what bamboozling is so I used the best dictionary on the net to help me.

1. Bamboozling 50 up, 37 down
The sometimes sexual, always hilarious act of taking a dump in ones mouth, and duct taping it shut on them.
Dann: I Bamboozled this girl last night
Jon: You goof

 

[Deathfox30]

European vocabulary dabess

 

[Lord Chair]

And that's why you use Wiktionary and not Urbandictionary:

Verb

bamboozle (third-person singular simple present bamboozles, present participle bamboozling, simple past and past participle bamboozled)

(informal) To con, defraud, trick, to make a fool of, to humbug or impose on someone.

 

[Masky]

..........

 

[-Jumpman-]

or instead of making Wario move indirectly by jabbing you could... just walk/dash and not suffer the lag from jab? I'm confused what am I missing here?

or just predict the roll and fart, but *****s don't know

 

[PieDisliker]

Well he said it's some sort of mixup, I guess MKs out of habit would try and punish you if you jab?

My best guess? ._.

 

[Lord Chair]

Jabbing moves you faster than dashing, plus it's harder to react to.

Plus what Piedisliker said.

 

[Masky]

..........

 

[Lord Chair]

Obviously you won't cross stages faster using jab>jab>repeat, don't be ridiculous.

In the short term, however, jabbing is a faster means of travelling that short distance out of grab range. Also, if you'd dash you're limited to your options out of dash which are fairly limited.

If you want you can do a BDACUS but that's more like ololol ima give up all stage control. Viable option though please go ahead and try it.

 

[Kaffei]

omg.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

 

[Masky]

..........

 

[Kaffei]

Kaffei please explain what is going on here to me before I call in the Internet Smash Police to take care of this ridiculousness

so basically he's saying that when mk rolls behind u, if you read or react to the roll the safest option is jab because it moves wario forwards and out of his grab range

but mk can just nado or up B or dash grab or dtilt. dtilt is super super safe wario has like no options

so i dont think this is very safe lol

*shrug*

 

[Lord Chair]

your reading comprehension is staggering

 

[-Jumpman-]

While staggering more often than not has a positive connotation, due to the lack of punctuation it's easy to see Lord Chair, or "Stoeltje", as we call him, isn't satisfied with Kaffei's post.

 

[Kaffei]

did i do something wrong

 

[Lord Chair]

nah, you were just at fault

 

[Kaffei]

nah, you were just at fault

so i did something wrong!!

 

[Lord Chair]

now youre wrong :D

 

[Kaffei]

o - o

 

[waldorf2007]

guys.
guys.
how about
guys, no, guys.
How about
we pull out our...BIKE
....when MK dodges.
Wario:1
MK:-1

 

[-RedShadow]

just...full hop > airdodge away from him?

 

[Labernash]

Or get grabbed and ground release. Then butt taunt in real life.

 

[Kaffei]

just...full hop > airdodge away from him?

If I recall correctly, it takes 7 frames for Wario to get off the ground once you press Jump, and another 4 frames for Wario to receive invincibility from his air dodge.. So that's 11 frames? Which is longer compared to 6 frame jab... But considering human error, I guess it's a viable option.

 

[Lord Chair]

FH airdodge is terribad because it doesnt cover anything it just stalls the ****

 

[Dynomite]

i guess its a good find that u can jab to get out of mk's grab range, but what if u just:

Offensive: dash attack towards him leading up to an upsmash if he shields?

B reverse bite?

Dash forward and boost pivot grab?

dsmash? Multi hitting move first hit on frame.. 5ithnk.. Which IS behind wario..

UPBBBBBBBBBB!!


Defensive:

Dash forward boost pivot grab

F all of our dodges in this situation...

Bike away? (gives up stage control?)

Dacus away?

...

For real.. Mk can punish everything we do there is no 100% safe option.. Its just luck.. Everythng that we do, mk can punish. So just pick one and hope he didnt expect it, or just pick one like bikeing away, so u dont get hit (bike absorbes damage hell yeah) and give up a little stage control.. Its ur fault for not punishing mk's roll in the first place so kudos to him for doing somethng that was unexpected or a really good option. Alot of it has to do with human error like kaf. Said.. No point in counting frames. Isnt it always just best to reset urself anyway against mk, instead of doing somethng stupid and getting punished?

No point in arguing about this.

 

[holyv]

Lol at dsmash
if you miss you'll get half charged dsmash in the face >_>

 

[Kaffei]

Lol at dsmash
if you miss you'll get half charged dsmash in the face >_>

I'd rather go for a grab than charge a dsmash (unless the wario is in kill %)
Wario lives long so keeping dsmash fresh is important imo

 

[Dynomite]

Lol at dsmash
if you miss you'll get half charged dsmash in the face >_>

dont laugh at wario's dance moves.. its pretty good sometimes. no lie.

it might just be good in that situation just because the first hitbox is fast and comes out behind him.. and easy to input so button pressing isnt a problem V C

 

[SAX]

That's another thing an idiot would do. Good point.

UpB OOS isn't actually that bad. If your opponent can't DI it consistantly, then your getting away with like 15% of damage, and you can get away everytime. I do this alot when getting tech chased by snake's. They never expect it.

It's still not the best option. Just a good mix up.

And if mk rolls behind you just turn around and grab or b-reverse a bite.

 

[Lord Chair]

ITT: people who dont understand how retardedly fast a 22 frame roll is

upb is a terrible mixup that only works against the most ridiculous sort of scrub, i dont understand why people fail to recognize how a move with that much hitlag and that many hits is even remotely viable, regardless of how fast it is out of shield

 

[Kaffei]

ITT: people who dont understand how retardedly fast a 22 frame roll is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fi5IqJvU74 7:01

 

[Lord Chair]

its like saying snake should just bair oos in the same situation

i mean, really