Divinokage
Smash Legend
I actually didn't play vs Charizard or have watched a Charizard play so idk.
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Project M Social Thread
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curry9186
Smash Journeyman
On the topic of fastfallers, who else would make a good one? Lucario obviously, but who else? Wolf just because he's a spacie?...????
Mr.Jackpot
Smash Lord
Wolf is already a fast faller.
trahhSTEEZY
Smash Champion
you guys' gonna tourny this for apex also?
come at meee brehhh
come at meee brehhh
Sir Combee
Smash Apprentice
Correct me if I wrong, but I think King Dedede was the fastest faller in Brawl. Which is kind of weird, seeing as he can float and has terrible dash speed, among other things.
jalued
Smash Lord
Are there any playtesters in the UK?
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
Yes, D3 had the fastest ff in brawl.
Revven
FrankerZ
There were, but not anymore because they decided to disappear/become inactive/lost interest for whatever reason.
curry9186
Smash Journeyman
Was Metaknight made a fastfaller too? I can't remember.
JCaesar
Smash Hero
Looking forward to this
I love Bowser's crawl, I'm glad you guys managed to make use of it.
I don't think making Bowser that much bigger than everyone is necessarily a good idea. Yeah you're increasing his range, but when the metagame develops there's guaranteed to be a lot of stupid stuff that works only on Bowser, and I mean REALLY stupid stuff. I cringed at some of the stuff jcaesar managed to land against cmart's Bowser - no one thing was terrible, but we are still in the alpha phase of the project.
I don't think making Bowser that much bigger than everyone is necessarily a good idea. Yeah you're increasing his range, but when the metagame develops there's guaranteed to be a lot of stupid stuff that works only on Bowser, and I mean REALLY stupid stuff. I cringed at some of the stuff jcaesar managed to land against cmart's Bowser - no one thing was terrible, but we are still in the alpha phase of the project.
Shawn101589
Smash Journeyman
He wasn't made bigger. This is the size he was in Brawl, that clip in the video was to show the size difference from Melee.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
I don't think he knows what's coming for him.. lol.Looking forward to this
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If you make one character the same size and everybody else smaller, he's larger in comparison, which is what I said "that much bigger than everybody else"
Shawn101589
Smash Journeyman
Oh sorry I misunderstood you lol.
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
Divinokage
Smash Legend
I'm pretty bad at 4 stocking people because of my style but.. I mean if he's a playtester getting ***** like that.. doesn't it go against the principle of playtesting? lol.Nothing wrong with seeing vids of you four stocking him.
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Kage, what is your style?
I'm guessing that trying to bait out and play safe with Ganon to punish like other characters would be difficult as he wants to be in that range where the opponent can run away and both punish at the same time.
I'm guessing that trying to bait out and play safe with Ganon to punish like other characters would be difficult as he wants to be in that range where the opponent can run away and both punish at the same time.
Yagi
Smash Ace
ynnek123
Smash Ace
How does zeldas side B work atm? is it back to how it used to be?
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
He's not using the experimental version, that's all. So in his stream right now, it currently acts exactly as it did in the demo.
JCaesar
Smash Hero
We haven't decided how it's going to work yet.
ynnek123
Smash Ace
Oh, ok. (10char)
Honestly, you guys should change Zelda's side b because it's too campy for me (the one at genesis II). People in the west coast can camp lol. And plus if you happen to play in a zelda ditto, that can be very campy lol; a total of 6 din's fire will be on the screen. Good luck finding which fire is yours lol. I liked how the din' fire acted like a time mine, but that's just my two cents.
krackizwak
Smash Cadet
Personally, I would rather it not be the Demo version. I find it to be to ineffectual. It not really threatening enough as a zoning tool mainly because of the timer being forced to be reset for each addition. While it can be useful, I think that the Experimental build requires the opponent to truly avoid the projectile or attack it because the flashes could set him up for a combo or the blast. I think that makes it a more useful tool. I think people over estimate either variation of the move. Everything new is scary lol.
Demon-oni
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I actually think it would be fine with its new version, but reducing the number you can have out. I was speculating whether or not it would be balanced with just 1 on the field. It has a lot of presence now with a hitbox, so she can use it quite well with pressure now, and it definitely limits the opponents options in just about every way when approaching her as well as gives her an enormous advantage when the opponent is off the edge. If it proves to be to overpowered or in-efficacious, the developers can change it as they see fit, but the new version currently gives what zelda has always needed, safer pressure options.
Anth0ny
Smash Master
Bowser is lookin' sexy. Good **** guys.
UltiMario
Out of Obscurity
Am I like missing the parts where everyone explains why Zelda is mid tier at best, but why they should still complain about how good new Dins Fire is?
Let the damn character have another good move if you all think she's that mediocre, please.
Let the damn character have another good move if you all think she's that mediocre, please.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
The din's fire isn't even THAT good, there's lots of ways around it.. and you can just punch it.
krackizwak
Smash Cadet
Like I said people are just scared cause it's something we haven seen in Smash before. I remember hearing they have other plans for the Din's fire, which I am looking forward to. Zelda needs the buffs to compete, and it looks like she might just get the tools to do so.
hotdogturtle
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Yeah, and I also think that this applies to several of the other complaints/concerns about some of the new mechanics that we've seen *coughbowsercough*
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the Zelda build present at Genesis II also had other buffs to her moveset independent of Din's fire. Din's isnt the only thing we're looking at for Zelda, guys.
Metmetm3t
Smash Lord
Why do you guys think Game & Watch didn't get much love @ Genesis?
Not Good?
Not Fun?
Not Cool?
Not Good?
Not Fun?
Not Cool?
krackizwak
Smash Cadet
Well those are not a hot topic, Zelda is developing very well, but this seems to be a hot topic. Just like Bowser's Armor and Lucario in general. Everybody is on board with the other Zelda changes so there is no reason to debate them.the Zelda build present at Genesis II also had other buffs to her moveset independent of Din's fire. Din's isnt the only thing we're looking at for Zelda, guys.
hotdogturtle
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He was pretty much overlooked in Melee, so I think a lot of people might not be used to seeing him as a legitimate, viable character in this environment.
But some people might not be interested in him at all for those same reasons. If you don't like him as a playable character, then he's easy to ignore, since he doesn't have much of a fanbase outside of Smash.
2D is sooo 20 years ago
Archangel
Smash Hero
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All of the above imo.
My hate for Gaymanwatch has long been documented though. Goes back to my younger years playing this game. He was the last person I unlocked and my disappointment for how he looked/played still exists now.
2D is sooo 20 years ago
All of the above imo.
My hate for Gaymanwatch has long been documented though. Goes back to my younger years playing this game. He was the last person I unlocked and my disappointment for how he looked/played still exists now.
JCaesar
Smash Hero
I like G&W. I just like other characters better. And he does feel somewhat lacking compared to other characters currently.
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