rk-9000
Smash Apprentice
or you could just scrap mk, hes stupid anyways
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Spoon~
Smash Ace
JOE!
Smash Hero
or you could just scrap fox, hes stupid anyways
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and /agree with spoon~
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and /agree with spoon~
9Kplus1
Smash Master
Since we're on the topic of my favorite character from the Kirby series...
Why not change Dair to his Dair from the canon series? With properties similar to G&W's Dair, it wouldn't be as ******** as his vBrawl Dair, and could give MK a really nice option for techchasing. Being a FFer (or has that changed?), a Dair of that nature would be really helpful for MK's shield pressure game as well, and it gives a sense of familiarity to players coming fron vBrawl (idk, maybe someone might realize how ****ty of a game Brawl is, repent, and finally convert to Melee-ism?). Uair could change in a similar manner, becoming an upwards poke with decent combo potential (possibly high BKB but low KBG for a decent kill option as well).
Maybe change nado to something similar to Nayru's Love? "Diminishing versatility decreases the 'brokenness' of a move" isn't the best of logic, but it's certainly better than keeping nado closer to vBrawl, right? Giving MK another way around projectiles would be nice, too.
EDIT: Reference, maybe?
EDIT 2: Possibly a parry window as well? A parry window a bit tighter than Yoshi's Melee parry window, which is slightly longer than powershielding iirc, and sword clanks (as uncommon as they may be) are perfect examples of a p. balanced parry window. It makes sense considering that he's a skilled swordsman and all. I'm unsure of how limited coding is, but it would definitely add a bit of technical dependance to Meta Knight's game.
Why not change Dair to his Dair from the canon series? With properties similar to G&W's Dair, it wouldn't be as ******** as his vBrawl Dair, and could give MK a really nice option for techchasing. Being a FFer (or has that changed?), a Dair of that nature would be really helpful for MK's shield pressure game as well, and it gives a sense of familiarity to players coming fron vBrawl (idk, maybe someone might realize how ****ty of a game Brawl is, repent, and finally convert to Melee-ism?). Uair could change in a similar manner, becoming an upwards poke with decent combo potential (possibly high BKB but low KBG for a decent kill option as well).
Maybe change nado to something similar to Nayru's Love? "Diminishing versatility decreases the 'brokenness' of a move" isn't the best of logic, but it's certainly better than keeping nado closer to vBrawl, right? Giving MK another way around projectiles would be nice, too.
EDIT: Reference, maybe?
EDIT 2: Possibly a parry window as well? A parry window a bit tighter than Yoshi's Melee parry window, which is slightly longer than powershielding iirc, and sword clanks (as uncommon as they may be) are perfect examples of a p. balanced parry window. It makes sense considering that he's a skilled swordsman and all. I'm unsure of how limited coding is, but it would definitely add a bit of technical dependance to Meta Knight's game.
KingClubber
Smash Ace
i say nuke everything that makes metaknight broken, then rebuild, and then break that too.
JOE!
Smash Hero
@nuke: that's brawl-
but yeah, changing his moves to be a tad more cannon could be a great sweeping move to: 1) make him more in character 2) balance him 3)make him balanced while still not beign ********
but yeah, changing his moves to be a tad more cannon could be a great sweeping move to: 1) make him more in character 2) balance him 3)make him balanced while still not beign ********
Mr.Jackpot
Smash Lord
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MK's Uair with Melee gravity, lack of hitstun and L Cancelling would be the most ******** thing ever.
MK's Uair with Melee gravity, lack of hitstun and L Cancelling would be the most ******** thing ever.
wat. no. lol. i avoided the emoticon on purpose. >_>
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
...I'm guessing that means you're playing with Neko tonight or something? lol
Meta-Knight has a lot of neat moves in the new Kirby Return to Dreamland game as well, some from Brawl, some not. Maybe some moveset ideas could be adopted from there?
Check out this video, Dedede starts at 5:00 and Meta-Knight at 5:45ish (the game is looking great by the way)
http://kotaku.com/5820063/i-was-wrong-to-blow-off-this-new-kirby-wii-game
also @JOE! many of his Brawl moves are canon now due to this game, including glide out of Shuttle Loop.
OrlyMelee
Smash Cadet
Eh guys i kinda got all ape**** on the irc server of the pm chat (spam join xd) could some op unban me. would appreciate it hehe..he.
MaxThunder
PM Support
^^hahahaha... fail...
KingClubber
Smash Ace
=_=
Those DDD animations....i want them.
Those DDD animations....i want them.
OrlyMelee
Smash Cadet
I should have known i would get banned but i just wanted to try XD
(Before anymore derailing) Zss has her down b replaced by her footstool down b right? I love you guys for that. <3
Akuma2120
Smash Ace
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Evidence of how long I've been gone lol
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
Even though Shanus has been the leader of this project from the beginning.
Pachinkosam
I have no friends, Im dead inside
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Akuma2120
Smash Ace
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I'm been pretty hesitant to make gameplay suggestions, since I'm a pretty casual player, but I figured I'd try. I've been thinking about Kirby, and specifically his rock ability. It's pretty useful against casual players and cpus but in a competitive context it seems like it would be pretty useless. Here are some buffs I think the rock could use.
Allow Kirby to break out of it instantly by pressing the B button after hitting another player or the stage, but don't allow him to break out of it he isn't in contact with anything, so that if he uses it unwisely offstage hell be unable to recover.
Speed up the "breaking" animation so that Kirby can act out of it more quickly
Make it do massive shield damage
Change it's knockback angle so it sends players straight up, even at low percents
This might be broken, but in conjuction with the first point, maybe make it spike airbone players?
Again, I'm pretty new to this so some of these might be pretty silly.
Allow Kirby to break out of it instantly by pressing the B button after hitting another player or the stage, but don't allow him to break out of it he isn't in contact with anything, so that if he uses it unwisely offstage hell be unable to recover.
Speed up the "breaking" animation so that Kirby can act out of it more quickly
Make it do massive shield damage
Change it's knockback angle so it sends players straight up, even at low percents
This might be broken, but in conjuction with the first point, maybe make it spike airbone players?
Again, I'm pretty new to this so some of these might be pretty silly.
Archangel
Smash Hero
What's going on with DDD's animations?
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i don't get the question?
Archangel
Smash Hero
if someone's asking for his animations I assume something is going on with him. Idk I am a bit busy lately and I don't have time to stalk this thread like I did in my prime.
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people are dumb. don't assume that something some random says in here is relevant.
Mr.Jackpot
Smash Lord
DDD is an Ice Climber and MK is still broken.
humble
Smash Ace
What's that Strong Bad? Patch released confirmed for Monday you say? Oh boi, I can't wait!
PS: Anyone of you non-randoms care to clue us in as to whether or not Bowser is getting a fireball? Apparently it was shown in a stream, and received positive feedback, but it hasn't made an appearance since. What up with dat?
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genkaku
Guest
I like the idea of MK in the S tier.
I like the idea of anyone in the S tier. I mean, it's kind of silly to balance on the premise "oh, well we can't make him spacie broken." Or is this meant to come with the assumption that meta-game development with the new tools will move everyone up a bit?
I like the idea of anyone in the S tier. I mean, it's kind of silly to balance on the premise "oh, well we can't make him spacie broken." Or is this meant to come with the assumption that meta-game development with the new tools will move everyone up a bit?
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Completely experimental was what I saw on here.
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the bowser fireball was experimental. it probably won't be used.
Virum
Smash Ace
Baaaaaaawwww :< It was so cool
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SiLeNtRoOm?
Spoon~
Smash Ace
mk broken is beyond spacie broken. MK being S tier has worked out soooo well (Lawl MK banned in vbrawl)
Demon-oni
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Going back to what Octorox was talking about with Kirby's rock, I think it could use some touching up. I like the idea for massive shield damage, but another thing I thought of was making it special cancelllable when it hits the ground. This way the opponent is less willing to just block the hit because of the amount of block stun and shield damage, and the special cancel would make it safer on landing.
Also, as a side note, you guys should try to make it so you could feint with side b hammer.
Also, as a side note, you guys should try to make it so you could feint with side b hammer.
Shadic
Alakadoof?
Most importantly, his design was awful and anti-fun. A Metaknight designed by the Project M team will be significantly better done.
Virum
Smash Ace
I c wat u did thar >.>
Anyways, I agree with this whole Metaknight re-invention thing. He just needs to be more fun and more legit to play, but still remain true and canon to the Kirby series. He needs less "stiff" moves and moves that actually have a nice flow to them. Remove the traces from his attacks, and they're about as stiff as Wario's which just doesn't seem right.
Juushichi
sugoi ~ sugoi ~
Lol at above poster. Good post.
When I saw the Kirby Wii video (gonna get dat game now more than ever) it looked like DDD's character design was pretty Melee looking. Smooth texture, kinda colorful. It looked really nice.
When I saw the Kirby Wii video (gonna get dat game now more than ever) it looked like DDD's character design was pretty Melee looking. Smooth texture, kinda colorful. It looked really nice.
Spoon~
Smash Ace
DDD looked like an iceclimber.Lol at above poster. Good post.
When I saw the Kirby Wii video (gonna get dat game now more than ever) it looked like DDD's character design was pretty Melee looking. Smooth texture, kinda colorful. It looked really nice.
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