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Project M Social Thread
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Jonny Westside
S4mus Fiend
Since you fine gents conquered landing detection(I think) and most recently ledge occupancy, what's the next obstacle?
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
lmao i read that as destruction
Streaming with new ledge occupancy, tether occupancy, new chars, new everything.
www.twitch.tv/peefsmash
www.twitch.tv/peefsmash
jalued
Smash Lord
**** yes! you guys have been busy :D
Wavebuster
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Streaming with Cactuar as my guinea pig.
http://www.twitch.tv/ryokoyaksa
http://www.twitch.tv/ryokoyaksa
The ROB matches (all of them) were way boring to watch. And I'm blaming ROB's current design.
ROB camped the entire time, ledge stalled, was impossible to combo, pulled off no combos himself, lived forever, and overall didn't do anything more than dodge and punish with a single move.
That sounds familiar...
That's exactly what he did in vBrawl.
It wasn't fun to watch. It wasn't visceral like Melee. It was slow and painful. It was vBrawl.
I think ROB might need a reevaluation.
N.A.G.A.C.E
Smash Champion
i disagree with this. the only part which i think is somewhat true is rob seems to have more trouble combo-ing then he should. besides that i dont think he can really cmp that well b/c his laser is lacking imo, and his top does not go as far.
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rob player probably sucked. watch ryoko's stream
It was jay and he was not bad...
drsusredfish
Smash Ace
I don't think they're used to ROB. Not all fighters are visceral, like picachu, luigi jiggly puff .ect. Some fighters are just good a camping even melee fighters. The dodge and pinish tactic isnt the characters fault its the players. Yeah it was boring but not all melee matches are hype either.
drsusredfish
Smash Ace
on the subject of sticky techs. What if you made it so you can act quicker out of the tech roll and have some overlap time with your invincability frames. dont hate me but it would sort of be like how in brawl you can attack to get out of hit stun but instead you can attack out of ground techs. That would be a decnt way to compinsate for sticky techs.
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
Or sticky techs could just try to be fixed..
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can't say since I wasn't watching but the only relevant P:M ROB right now is JCaesar
Mr.Jackpot
Smash Lord
Definitely not. That would completely ruin tech chasing.
Jay is just as good, ill show you videos if youd like.
JCaesar
Smash Hero
cmart
Smash Lord
That's also a pretty good taste of what ness can do...
rk-9000
Smash Apprentice
great now you got me all excited for rob too, this is torture
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Looks awesome.
I was really pulling for Ness at 2:26 to throw in a second dair on his way down and then dair combo again off of the tech... I loved doing crap like that in smash 64 so much...
God, I so can't wait for this game.
Sneak8288
Smash Champion
jcz.. rematch at apex vs my ness and snake for $1
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
lol $ 1
JCaesar
Smash Hero
I carry that toonie with me at all times haha.
Sorry Sneak but I won't be at Apex. Going to Magfest instead. I might go to ROM4 though.
Sorry Sneak but I won't be at Apex. Going to Magfest instead. I might go to ROM4 though.
OmegaMuffin
Smash Journeyman
Is ZSS ok to be shown publicly? Because Ryoko did a really sexy combo yesterday on a Falcon player that definitely needs to be on youtube lol
Yes, that's fine. Until and unless we find a way to make new air grabs she is pretty much finished.
Juushichi
sugoi ~ sugoi ~
I'm looking at Wolf being played on a replay of PEEF's stream. Are you able to do something like Falco with dair-shine?
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
I know you can combo dair -> shine with Wolf, but are you referring to Pillaring like Falco does?
Juushichi
sugoi ~ sugoi ~
Something similar, yeah. It looks like the best that he can get out of it is like shine->fair or bair and Fair looks a little underwhelming. Oh, maybe uair.
IIRC, isn't Wolf's Shine supposed to be similar to N64 Fox shine?
IIRC, isn't Wolf's Shine supposed to be similar to N64 Fox shine?
smashbro29
Smash Champion
Put this in the game please. PLEASE?
Flame kick since ppl like it apparently lol.
Although i agree Kage that 1 frame uptilt may be excessive lol.
EDIT: also how the **** do you use those collapsable tags?
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
Shine sends up and away. As for doing shine -> fair, that is a combo but PEEF wasn't hitting with the sweetspot (claws) all the time. So that made it look underwhelming. The sweetspot can kill ~80% IIRC.
it can kill at 80 if im 5 feet from the ceiling. The move does not regularly kill that early with good DI, i can assure you.
Wolf does not have a pillar-quality combo that i know of yet, that might get developed, but his waveshine is pretty good and leads to alot of stuff.
robosteven
Smash Lord
At around what time do you guys stream Project: M?
phurgawtin
Smash Apprentice
after its been dark outside for a few hours, and the stars line up just right.
exarch
doot doot doot
I wanted to point out that in my time with Project M last year, I found a few bugs that I wanted to point out
1. If you move a character into the teetering position, neutral jump with x/y, then use a cstick aerial toward the edge, you land in the teetering position again.
(Basically from a teeter position you can auto-edge-cancel aerials.)
2. On top of that if you stand anywhere on a platform and x/y jump and f/bair with the cstick repeatedly, you will move across the platform ~1 pixel at a time.
(The cstick f/bair moves you forward or backward very slightly.)
3. Also if you cstick left/right while the character is in their initial jump animation they will do a dashjump (or at least a jump to the left/right,) without ever touching the analog stick. (I remember seeing this in Brawl definitely, but atm am not 100% sure if I ran into this problem with M.)
These are all unexpected behavior from controls, and while the first two bugs are not much of an issue (but at the same time may be a very easy fix,) the third can be annoying when attempting to do tight frame specific aerials in place (mario's bair, fox/falco's bair, marth's dbl fair, etc.)
But y'all are awesome and probably already know about these. I also might have posted this information a long time ago and totally forgotten about it. If I wasted your time I'm sorry.
1. If you move a character into the teetering position, neutral jump with x/y, then use a cstick aerial toward the edge, you land in the teetering position again.
(Basically from a teeter position you can auto-edge-cancel aerials.)
2. On top of that if you stand anywhere on a platform and x/y jump and f/bair with the cstick repeatedly, you will move across the platform ~1 pixel at a time.
(The cstick f/bair moves you forward or backward very slightly.)
3. Also if you cstick left/right while the character is in their initial jump animation they will do a dashjump (or at least a jump to the left/right,) without ever touching the analog stick. (I remember seeing this in Brawl definitely, but atm am not 100% sure if I ran into this problem with M.)
These are all unexpected behavior from controls, and while the first two bugs are not much of an issue (but at the same time may be a very easy fix,) the third can be annoying when attempting to do tight frame specific aerials in place (mario's bair, fox/falco's bair, marth's dbl fair, etc.)
But y'all are awesome and probably already know about these. I also might have posted this information a long time ago and totally forgotten about it. If I wasted your time I'm sorry.
I'm streaming tonight (and most nights) starting around 8 or 830 Eastern. Everyone else streams inconsistently, so you'll just have to watch this thread for them.
Jonny Westside
S4mus Fiend
What's your timezone?
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
@exarch - are you going to SMASH! Minnesota?
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