[Project] Troll Brawl Smash Mod

[Fijoe]

On my list, those with starmen by them are done already and those without aren't. There are one or two exceptions where things are listed as unfinished but infact half done though.

The "G&W always hits 9s" is already made

Judgement Always 9
80000000 80622E80
20000000 52534245
80000000 80623320
20000001 52534250
80000000 8061CCE0
E0000000 80008000
60000003 00000000
4A001000 00000000
3000002C 00000014
58010000 00000004
DE000000 80008180
58010000 00000060
340000D8 81000000
58010000 000000D8
58010000 00000070
58010000 00000030
58010000 00000458
58010000 00000000
58010000 0000000C
140000E8 3B600008
E2000003 00000000
80100000 00000244
62000000 00000000
E0000000 80008000

Also, I'm pretty sure these are impossible:

Rumble occurs late
Items can't be turned off
Random select always picks Pikachu on PS2(Would be easy without the PS2 part)
Controls are inverted during MK's B moves

 

[ryuu seika]

The "G&W always hits 9s" is already made

It wasn't mentioned in this thread before. I'll update the list.

Also, I'm pretty sure these are impossible:
Rumble occurs late
Items can't be turned off
Random select always picks Pikachu on PS2(Would be easy without the PS2 part)
Controls are inverted during MK's B moves

The "Items can't be turned off" was actually supposed to be "Turning off items has no effect" if that's any better. I'm hoping this can be made to work as it's a major part of Troll Brawl.
Why is "randomly" selecting Pokemon Stadium 2 every time an issue if Pikachu isn't? It should be exactly the same but for the stage select screen.

The other two are a shame but if they really aren't possible it doesn't really matter.

EDIT: Oh, I get what the problem with PS2 is. That would be the same thing as the items then. Hopefully both can be worked out.

EDIT 2: Would it be possible to make all Pikmin constantly cycle through their colours (and effects to match)?

 

[Fijoe]

I remember there being a code that lets you edit what characters are viable for random selection, but I don't think there's one for stages. I do remember PW making a "random stage selection" code, but I think it was just to complement his Stage Expansion code.

 

[ryuu seika]

You can turn off all but PS2 anyway. A code that kept the settings as they were might suffice.
I don't honestly know a thing about coding Brawl. I'm just here to collect and contribute to the hilariously dumb ideas.

 

[Msingh0]

typo in the title. just saying, its released, not realsed.

 

[SonicTHDark]

typo in the title. just saying, its released, not realsed.

trollolol
10troll

 

[Flutter NiTE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A2QJidfg9E
Player 2 should get this special.

Everyone should have this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic6YuhMikEI

 

[ryuu seika]

The first has glitches that specifically harm one character, while the second will apparently be problematic with Final Smashes, which we're trying to promote the use of. The lack of a % display may be a nice touch though and I think atleast the second would be a good idea if it weren't for the glitches.

 

[standardtoaster]

It's hilarious if you use both of those codes.

 

[ryuu seika]

Yes but the glitches would be a real pain.

 

[ryuu seika]

Is all interest in the project gone? I would have thought it'd be hilarious if done well and so attract more attention than it has at present.

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

I completely forgot about this! Sorry about that, I will get to working on it, just not now, Graduation test next week >_<.

 

[ryuu seika]

No worries, feel free to take your time. In my mind the topic could do with more discussion though.

What would people think to the select screen showing Ganondorf but actually having two Captain Falcon slots so that, if possible, all characters could have a slight chance of randomly being replaced by this guy (massively overpowered of course)?

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Wait.

If I can't pick Ganon from the CSS.

I automatically hate this mod.

 

[MonkUnit]

he isn't removing characters for the game

 

[ryuu seika]

Ok, that's clearly a no then.
Unfortunately, there's no way to have him without removing someone.

Oh well, discuss the rest of the mod then. To recap, here's my compilation of what I think are good ideas that have been suggested thusfar (starmen denote completed codes/mods):

Universal Changes

Tripping rate increased to 64x normal
Pressing Taunt Kills You.
Hitstun removed.
Melee air dodge system adopted.
Respawn Invincibility removed.
Stop Watch freezes game indefinitely.
Stage Friction is minimal.
Rumble occurs late.
Stickers, CDs, Trophies and Bananas explode on contact.
Bob-Oms and Motion Sensor Bombs cause tripping.
Items can't be turned off.
Ledges can't be grabbed.
Random Select always picks Pichu* on Pokemon Stadium 2.
Stages scroll in reverse.

*Pichu takes Pikachu's spot on the roster and looks the same on the select screen.

Some Character Specific Changes

Peach does not pull up turnips, but Smash Balls.
Links Final Smash keeps hitting until you stop holding the B button.
Luigi always Misfires.
Kirby's Copy ability KOs (doesn't copy).
Ganondorf's neutral B is a super tornado.
Dedede spits with infinite strength.
Pikachu is replaced by a worse version of Pichu (see above).
Ivysaur's Bullet Seed hits once per frame.
Controls for all players are inverted during Metaknight's B moves.
Mr.Game&Watch always hits nines.
Sonic's speed is doubled (including speech).
Snake's grenades are Pokeballs.
Ness and Lucas' PK Starstorms rain starmen instead of damaging.
Lucas' PK Freeze spawns Freezies

Some Stage Specific Changes

Final Destination tilts and flips.

 

[IYM!]

I like this:
all parts,

my favorites
1)Links Final Smash keeps hitting until you stop holding the B button
2)Stickers, CDs, Trophies and Bananas explode on contact.

i dont like this
Tripping rate increased to 64x normal
i just hate tripping

i dont understand this:
Bob-Oms and Motion Sensor Bombs cause tripping.

 

[ryuu seika]

The tripping rate is simply there to make it more dumb.
The idea with the bombs is that they swap effects with the bananas to confuse people. The code for the motion sensors is already done, with added confetti to boot.

 

[IYM!]

but, triping is so frustating

well, is your project

i like the Bo-Oms and monitor sensor bomb idea

 

[ryuu seika]

Actually, it's not my project .
I Just found it interesting and decided to help out. Now I seem to be the driving force behind it.

 

[IYM!]

is posible make the triforce slash bigger?

 

[MonkUnit]

The graphics? Probably.

 

[IYM!]

The graphics? Probably.

i mean, a bigger triforce slash

bigger hitboxes and a bigger side, the triforce slash is small

 

[ryuu seika]

Of course it's possible. If you can completely change a character then a minor hitbox mod (and perhaps graphic extension) should be simple. Convince me that it's worthwhile and I'll add it to my suggestion list.

 

[MonkUnit]

ruu sekia 4 co leader of this project imo

 

[ryuu seika]

If you can make a convincing argument for it, I'll add that to my list aswell .

Who thinks Kirby's Utilt should have a massive hit box in reference to the complaints about him in SSB64?

 

[MonkUnit]

You are the only that is really pushing this project so you should be co leader.

YESSS @ Kirby's SSB64 utilt hitboxes. LOOOOOL

 

[ryuu seika]

I was thinking bigger hitboxes than that even. Extending past his foot by about Ness' height perhaps.

EDIT: ok then, updated list:

Universal Changes

Tripping rate increased to 64x normal
Pressing Taunt Kills You.
Hitstun removed.
Melee air dodge system adopted.
Respawn Invincibility removed.
Stop Watch freezes game indefinitely.
Stage Friction is minimal.
Rumble occurs late.
Stickers, CDs, Trophies and Bananas explode on contact.
Bob-Oms and Motion Sensor Bombs cause tripping.
Items can't be turned off.
Ledges can't be grabbed.
Random Select always picks Pichu* on Pokemon Stadium 2.
Stages scroll in reverse.

*Pichu takes Pikachu's spot on the roster and looks the same on the select screen.

Some Character Specific Changes

Peach does not pull up turnips, but Smash Balls.
Links Final Smash keeps hitting until you stop holding the B button.
Luigi always Misfires.
Kirby's Copy ability KOs (doesn't copy) and his Utilt has an insane hitbox range.
Ganondorf's neutral B is a super tornado.
Dedede spits with infinite strength.
Pikachu is replaced by a worse version of Pichu (see above).
Ivysaur's Bullet Seed hits once per frame.
Controls for all players are inverted during Metaknight's B moves.
Mr.Game&Watch always hits nines.
Sonic's speed is doubled (including speech).
Snake's grenades are Pokeballs.
Ness and Lucas' PK Starstorms rain starmen instead of damaging.
Lucas' PK Freeze spawns Freezies

Some Stage Specific Changes

Final Destination tilts and flips.

Some Project Specific Changes

Ryuu Seika is co-leader.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Should I get on coding/animating Warlock Tornado? I anticipate it'll take me about two weeks or so to get the animation perfect, factoring in my heavily limited time lately.

 

[Smoom77]

Are there any videos?

 

[standardtoaster]

>Sonic's speed is doubled (including speech)

How are you going to do the speech?

 

[IYM!]

Of course it's possible. If you can completely change a character then a minor hitbox mod (and perhaps graphic extension) should be simple. Convince me that it's worthwhile and I'll add it to my suggestion list.

many characters as Falco, fox, wario, Sonic, rob, pikachu, etc.They have very enormous movements.

Only you need press the button and is done, you have guaranteed, as minimum, two lives of your rival.

The Triforce Slash of Link, on the other hand, only can be connected once, and if you fail, all your effort for reaching the Smash ball gets lost.

And what is even worse, the attack is not very devastating, alone it do 81% or 87%, and does not guarantee a KO.

To do the triforce slash an infinite move already is an improvement, but his range of attack is very small, any human player, it might be kept far without problems, binding to stop you to continue the battle.

a huge triforce slash would help a lot, also give to Link more chances to conect his move.

for example he have 3 or 5 oportunities to conect it to a rival, if he miss the 3 or 5 times, he gonna lose the smash ball


what do you thing??

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

@ryuu seika I do not mind any and all help, but I do not wish to hire anyone out as a co-leader at this time, though I do apricate your suggestions, though I am busy with graduation test right now, so if anyone (anyone it does not matter who) wishes to make thier own verson of the project or out right take it over I do not mind updating the OP to inlude everyones personal variations, if any are realsed. (You will get credit in the OP for your version.)

 

[ryuu seika]

Should I get on coding/animating Warlock Tornado? I anticipate it'll take me about two weeks or so to get the animation perfect, factoring in my heavily limited time lately.

Everyone seems to like it so I doubt your efforts would go to waste.

>Sonic's speed is doubled (including speech)
How are you going to do the speech?

Would that not be a simple voice file mod (+pitch shift to avoid ear pain)?

what do you thing??

I think you're not very coherent but you make a good logical argument for the mod. Unfortunately, I feel you are missing the point. This is not "balanced brawl" or any such attempt to make the game fair. This is Troll Brawl where laughs and stupidity determine what gets done. As such, you probably need to rethink your approach.

@ryuu seika I do not mind any and all help, but I do not wish to hire anyone out as a co-leader at this time, though I do apricate your suggestions, though I am busy with graduation test right now, so if anyone (anyone it does not matter who) wishes to make thier own verson of the project or out right take it over I do not mind updating the OP to inlude everyones personal variations, if any are realsed. (You will get credit in the OP for your version.)

That's fine by me. That part was only really thrown in as a joke (in that sense it fits with the spirit of the project) and, as with all my suggestions, the final say is yours.
As for coding, I lack both the knowhow and the software to do so and I doubt my computer could handle it any way. The poor thing is pretty well Ftilted right now if you get what I mean.

Additional suggestion: Captain Falcon shouts "Falcoooon Puuunch" for every attack.

 

[IYM!]

I think you're not very coherent but you make a good logical argument for the mod. Unfortunately, I feel you are missing the point. This is not "balanced brawl" or any such attempt to make the game fair. This is Troll Brawl where laughs and stupidity determine what gets done. As such, you probably need to rethink your approach.

You are right, this isnt Balanced brawl, but give to Link those improvemts, would make him better as a "trolling" character

i am a Link main, and beliveme, is not fun miss the triforce slash

 

[PieDisliker]

A couple ideas:

-ICs' throws do 40-100% damage, whatever's best
-When Nana dies, you lose your stock.
-Replace Ike's sword sounds with squeaky hammer sounds.

There's so many ideas that can be thought of for this. This is amazing.

 

[ryuu seika]

i am a Link main, and beliveme, is not fun miss the triforce slash

ideas:
-ICs' throws do 40-100% damage, whatever's best
-When Nana dies, you lose your stock.
-Replace Ike's sword sounds with squeaky hammer sounds..

Out of this I get:
-Link's Final Smash continues until you let go of B but has an incredibly small hitbox.
-Nana is always at 300%.
-Ike uses a Pow Hammer rather than a sword, with sound effects to match.

I can't say I really get the super throw thing but I suspect I aught to.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Ice Climbers have throw infinites on every character in the game in vBrawl.
1 Grab = 1 stock.

 

[ryuu seika]

New idea, also based on Pie's:
-Nana and Popo swap appearances.

 

[ElDominio]

Ideas for Sonic:

Make him STUPID fast. as in, run for more than a second and die off the horizontal blastlines.

Falco:

Make his lazorz shoot Bomb-ombs, like when they modded Halo1 back in the day.