question about THIS falco

[AL2DAX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGe9P7umYMY

there are a few instances in these brawls where falco dash attacks and immediately follows up with a Usmash, very quickly i may add. I attempted this in training mode but i couldn't do it myself. does anyone know how? please and thanks.

 

[8AngeL8]

Gatling combo. Check the sticky for a detailed explanation, but basically you start dashing, then down C to start the dash attack, then immediately hit up and Z to cancel into the usmash. You want to hit up Z very quickly, just as the animation for the dash starts.

 

[AL2DAX]

is Gatling combo similar to dash attack cancel or hyphen smash...similar to doing snakes mortar slide?

 

[FreakingMethodiC]

Havent' watched the video but it sounds like you're looking at where if you hit with the running attack and hit C-stick up it cancels into a Up smash.

 

[AL2DAX]

yeah that's it. so is that move done similar to snake's mortar slide, because i can do that =/

 

[RevoCrisix]

Yeah, its pretty much the same button input as Snake's mortarslide (at least the way I do it). However, for the gatling combo the initial dash attack has to make contact with the opponent (or the opponent's shield), like Snake's contact mortarslide. As soon as you make contact with the c-stick dash attack, immediately do up+Z to cancel into the Usmash.

 

[CY]

or the way i do it is mash c stick down, and once the dash attack hits mash c stick up. this will only work if you hit the oppenent. i find this way a lot easier to do.

 

[Mith_]

A gatling combo is:

a dash attack that connects. then follow up with an upsmash. only works at low percents.

a hyphen smash is:

a dash into an upsmash. you slide a tiny bit while doing it. every character can do this.

a DACUS is:

dash attack canceled into up smash. you dash, hit down on the cstick, and then before the attack really goes off, hit up on the control stick + grab. only a few characters can do this, and cetain characters slide farther than others while doing this. snake slides the most. shiek jigglypuff and falco slide a pretty noticeable distance too.

 

[SCOTU]

people use the up-z method for this? huh, that always seemed more difficult than just down-c > up-c. that's straight forward and easy to do for something this easy.

 

[AL2DAX]

thanks for the clear-up and help.

 

[8AngeL8]

Down-C -> Up Z has the benefit of using separate fingers, which I find helps my timing. It's also the exact same input as the the hyphen smash, so you can get them both down easier.

 

[TETRAbomba]

If you know how to wavedash in melee the timing is similar only the first few frames can initiate the sequence so you don't need to look for any visual queue's from your character, just know that as soon as you hit the c-stick down, even a little you should start pressing Up+Z. Its seems hard but only took me about fifteen minutes to learn... I suggest learning to do it with Snake at 2/3 speed, then full speed after that it should start clicking for every character... although the effect sucks for some of them... :'

 

[SCOTU]

Down-C -> Up Z has the benefit of using separate fingers, which I find helps my timing. It's also the exact same input as the the hyphen smash, so you can get them both down easier.

hyphen smash is just up-c lol. boost smash is same input as what you're saying.

 

[8AngeL8]

hyphen smash is just up-c lol. boost smash is same input as what you're saying.

Oh, really? I guess I'm confused as to what the Hyphen Smash is, then. There's too many different terms for the exact same things floating around, lol.

 

[Mith_]

a hyphen smash is:

a dash into an upsmash. you slide a tiny bit while doing it. every character can do this.

lol, i said it in my post.
when u are dashing press up on the cstick and you will do an upsmash. if you press down, forward or back on the cstick you will do a dash attack.

 

[8AngeL8]

Haha, missed that. Thanks for clearing that up. Lol, I use all of those regularly but I never knew what to call them.

 

[ReoZeo]

Yeah its tricky, but you just gotta use the c-stick and tapping it before you do the Upward Kick thing

 

[Krysis]

Havent' watched the video but it sounds like you're looking at where if you hit with the running attack and hit C-stick up it cancels into a Up smash.

How do u do it with wii remote and nunchuk controls?

 

[8AngeL8]

Step 1: Stop using wiimote + nunchuck

Step 2: Go get a GC controller.

Step 3: Forward -> Down-C -> Up + Z

 

[RyN]

Step 1: Stop using wiimote + nunchuck

Step 2: Go get a GC controller.

Step 3: Forward -> Down-C -> Up + Z

I lol'd. GC controller is the only way to go

 

[8AngeL8]

Hey, RyN, Mike Lee is gonna come over later today for some friendlies, you should come and get some GaW tips.

 

[superglucose]

Helpful trick for DACUS/mortar sliding/dlx/snake dashing (they're all the same, iirc) using the c-stick:

You don't need to smash the cstick down. Just a little bit down then smash up is probably the best way to do it, imo. It's faster, and does nice things.