MrPhox
Tamed Beast
I really pose this question to the Toon Links out there who are on the top end of the spectrum.
The guys who are on the "cutting edge" of toon link fighting.
I can understand people who like the character and want to see others do well with him in tournaments. Usually those people are more casual and share because they know they aren't going to make it there themselves. Just the satisfaction of there fan-favorite will due.
But then there are people who pride themselves by their smash community reputation.
Sharing their information will make them look more important in the community.
Or make them seem like valid/good players.
Maybe somebody wants to establish themselves as a known authority on Toon Link.
Get some recognition.
"I've been playing toon link a long time, I think I would give those kids on the boards a run for their money!"
Those kinds of players have confidence in their play, and are probably relatively unknown/new to the forum.
What else does sharing tips do for you on the boards?
I guess it can keep you on top. Those who are feeding the advice imply that they are sharing some exclusive knowledge to those who have not discovered it yet.
It's a statement of class in itself.
I'm not attacking people with this claim, I'm just a human being like we all are. Just another self-ish yet surprisingly social individual.
I believe everything we do is in self-interest. I think we're wired that way, and to avoid it is to lie to yourself. I look at it from more of an evolutionary standpoint.
Anyway, I know there is an answer I'm missing here and it's: "They share because they want to help people."
But I honestly don't believe that is a truly common case.
Not saying that our sharing isn't helping people, and that helping people isn't involved in the intention itself.
But it doesn't just stop at helping people.
Helping people has always been a smart move for any person. Often if comes with rewards and benefits.
Now my question here is:
If you are one of the top Toon Links, why would you want to share with the community?
The lower toon link's rank on the tiers and tournament rankings, the better you look when you win with him.
The fewer the moves/information you give away, the more unique you seem as a player.
The more you write about toon link, the more the community begins to inherit your style. Thus, the more your enemies will fight against your ideas.
Is popularity enough of a driving force?
Even when the people are somewhat anonymous and detached.
Has a community come to mean this much to people?
Do people who desire public attention and respect on here want it because they lack it in the other quadrants of their life?
No offense to anybody. I'm not popular at all. I actually find that people DISLIKE me in some cases.
I just believe that I teeter on the edge of social and anti-social.
Don't say I would want that to change either.
Some part of me wants recognition, a self-esteem boost, power, prestige, acknowledgement and respect for my posting. But the other half says: "Why bother? What benefit will you REALLY get from helping the community?" And you know what, I think that's a valid question.
Because frankly I'm not interested in social networking with people at my school, let alone strangers on the internet.
I just think I can't comprehend those who come on here truly for the social aspect.
Which is what I frequently forget. I assume everybody on here wants to be the best there is. In my world, I couldn't possibly imagine being a casual player who comes on just for the community aspect.
Also, I might be completely misguided by the average age on here.
At first I assumed people are of a certain maturity level. I thought they were mostly serious hardcore smashers. I think I was mistaken though, there seems to be a lot of young people on here. And I'm sure that since they've had internet access and online video games since before puberty, this is just an average experience for that generation.
I don't consider myself old, but perhaps there isn't the presence that I thought my age bracket had.
I'm 21 btw.
This is kind of getting off topic, but thoughts of all kinds would be interesting.
And for the sake of survey, how old are you?
At a young age, people tend to be very black and white about their opinions. They tend to be more judgmental. Example: Youths are in favor of the death penalty at a higher rate than their older counterparts. They tend to be more zealous, but with it, also impetuous.
With philosophies and ideas that come more from popular culture than their actual living experiences. More routed in fairy-tale ideas of ethics and life expectations.
When I was in highschool I totally fit that bill. Not saying we all do 100%, but there is a reason why the word "maturity" exists.
As youths we all think when something bad happens to us, that it's the worst thing anybody has ever gone through. When we have a crush on a girl, we say that we will lover her forever, and willingly pledge years of promise at an age when we truly don't have any experience being an adult.
Adolescence is interesting because it's when the adult "wants" are present, but the adult experience is not.
And I truthfully do believe this effects the community experience here.
I would have to be honest and say that I don't like the idea of people who look on the smash community for what they miss from their own lives.
By saying that, I truthfully do understand that I could just be missing some understanding here.
So actually, the latter half of this thread is a question to the average gamer.
Ultimately the point I'm getting at in this long-winded post is: Are you here for an ego-boost?
I can't help but get that impression from the countless insulting and negative trolling that happens throughout the boards (and any online community for that matter).
The underachievement and underuse of rigorous mental energies.
As well as even the positive things that are the fundamental principles that allow this community to exist. Such as sharing, an act possibly charged with ego-boosting hope.
your thoughts would be appreciated.
The guys who are on the "cutting edge" of toon link fighting.
I can understand people who like the character and want to see others do well with him in tournaments. Usually those people are more casual and share because they know they aren't going to make it there themselves. Just the satisfaction of there fan-favorite will due.
But then there are people who pride themselves by their smash community reputation.
Sharing their information will make them look more important in the community.
Or make them seem like valid/good players.
Maybe somebody wants to establish themselves as a known authority on Toon Link.
Get some recognition.
"I've been playing toon link a long time, I think I would give those kids on the boards a run for their money!"
Those kinds of players have confidence in their play, and are probably relatively unknown/new to the forum.
What else does sharing tips do for you on the boards?
I guess it can keep you on top. Those who are feeding the advice imply that they are sharing some exclusive knowledge to those who have not discovered it yet.
It's a statement of class in itself.
I'm not attacking people with this claim, I'm just a human being like we all are. Just another self-ish yet surprisingly social individual.
I believe everything we do is in self-interest. I think we're wired that way, and to avoid it is to lie to yourself. I look at it from more of an evolutionary standpoint.
Anyway, I know there is an answer I'm missing here and it's: "They share because they want to help people."
But I honestly don't believe that is a truly common case.
Not saying that our sharing isn't helping people, and that helping people isn't involved in the intention itself.
But it doesn't just stop at helping people.
Helping people has always been a smart move for any person. Often if comes with rewards and benefits.
Now my question here is:
If you are one of the top Toon Links, why would you want to share with the community?
The lower toon link's rank on the tiers and tournament rankings, the better you look when you win with him.
The fewer the moves/information you give away, the more unique you seem as a player.
The more you write about toon link, the more the community begins to inherit your style. Thus, the more your enemies will fight against your ideas.
Is popularity enough of a driving force?
Even when the people are somewhat anonymous and detached.
Has a community come to mean this much to people?
Do people who desire public attention and respect on here want it because they lack it in the other quadrants of their life?
No offense to anybody. I'm not popular at all. I actually find that people DISLIKE me in some cases.
I just believe that I teeter on the edge of social and anti-social.
Don't say I would want that to change either.
Some part of me wants recognition, a self-esteem boost, power, prestige, acknowledgement and respect for my posting. But the other half says: "Why bother? What benefit will you REALLY get from helping the community?" And you know what, I think that's a valid question.
Because frankly I'm not interested in social networking with people at my school, let alone strangers on the internet.
I just think I can't comprehend those who come on here truly for the social aspect.
Which is what I frequently forget. I assume everybody on here wants to be the best there is. In my world, I couldn't possibly imagine being a casual player who comes on just for the community aspect.
Also, I might be completely misguided by the average age on here.
At first I assumed people are of a certain maturity level. I thought they were mostly serious hardcore smashers. I think I was mistaken though, there seems to be a lot of young people on here. And I'm sure that since they've had internet access and online video games since before puberty, this is just an average experience for that generation.
I don't consider myself old, but perhaps there isn't the presence that I thought my age bracket had.
I'm 21 btw.
This is kind of getting off topic, but thoughts of all kinds would be interesting.
And for the sake of survey, how old are you?
At a young age, people tend to be very black and white about their opinions. They tend to be more judgmental. Example: Youths are in favor of the death penalty at a higher rate than their older counterparts. They tend to be more zealous, but with it, also impetuous.
With philosophies and ideas that come more from popular culture than their actual living experiences. More routed in fairy-tale ideas of ethics and life expectations.
When I was in highschool I totally fit that bill. Not saying we all do 100%, but there is a reason why the word "maturity" exists.
As youths we all think when something bad happens to us, that it's the worst thing anybody has ever gone through. When we have a crush on a girl, we say that we will lover her forever, and willingly pledge years of promise at an age when we truly don't have any experience being an adult.
Adolescence is interesting because it's when the adult "wants" are present, but the adult experience is not.
And I truthfully do believe this effects the community experience here.
I would have to be honest and say that I don't like the idea of people who look on the smash community for what they miss from their own lives.
By saying that, I truthfully do understand that I could just be missing some understanding here.
So actually, the latter half of this thread is a question to the average gamer.
Ultimately the point I'm getting at in this long-winded post is: Are you here for an ego-boost?
I can't help but get that impression from the countless insulting and negative trolling that happens throughout the boards (and any online community for that matter).
The underachievement and underuse of rigorous mental energies.
As well as even the positive things that are the fundamental principles that allow this community to exist. Such as sharing, an act possibly charged with ego-boosting hope.
your thoughts would be appreciated.
