Reverse UTilt against aerial approaches.

[Flayl]

I need your help, people with friends that live close to you and are willing to test stuff, to find out which aerial approaches can a backwards Utilt stop. Right now the only bowser I know that uses this is Vex, and honestly I think it's going to be essential in plenty of matchups.

Here's a(n incomplete) list of aerials. Simply test and give me a yes or no answer if it's any use. Some words about how easy/hard it is to time would also be great.

Bowser
- FAir:
- OverB:

Captain Falcon
- NAir:
- FAir: Yes
- Aerial DownB:

Diddy Kong
- BAir:
- FAir:
- DownB:

Donkey Kong
- BAir:
- NAir:
- B:
- OverB:

Falco
- BAir:
- NAir:
- DAir:

Fox

Mr. Game & Watch

Ganondorf

Ice Climbers

Ike

Jigglypuff

King Dedede

Kirby

Link

Lucario

Lucas

Luigi

Mario

Marth

Meta Knight
- DAir: Yes

Ness

Olimar

Peach

Pikachu

Pit

Pokémon Trainer

R.O.B.

Samus

Sheik

Snake

Sonic

Toon Link

Wario

Wolf

Yoshi

Zelda

Zero Suit Samus

 

[Phlemingo]

Could you explain what a reverse utilt is?

 

[Flayl]

It's just turning the other way so your back is facing your opponent. Utilt makes an arc from Bowser's head to his tail.

 

[Hobobloke]

i will try and help test this out

 

[Pierce7d]

Why not just ftilt angled up?

 

[Inferno_blaze]

Why not just ftilt angled up?

Utilt KOs better and hits over head. F-tilt's got more range to it, mind.

 

[Flayl]

Why not just ftilt angled up?

because it won't hit approaches at a certain height.

 

[MrEh]

I'm pretty sure the Utilt stops the Knee.

Then again, what doesn't?

 

[Flayl]

I'm pretty sure the Utilt stops the Knee.

Then again, what doesn't?

It's the sad truth.

 

[Bowser King]

It's the sad truth.

So true....

but more do you expect from rick wheeler

-Bowser King

 

[Flayl]

Ok according to people who helped me out at the Metaknight boards, Utilt can stop MK's DAir. The timing is strict though.

 

[TLMSheikant]

I know bowser's utilt beats TL's dair if u time it well. But why would we use dair in the first place anyway?

 

[Vect0r]

For aerial approaches, I like to put up my shield for a few seconds then try to roll out of their attacks... by rolling I mean just moving backwards, since Bowser doesn't "roll".

But that's just the error of my ways, right?

 

[8AngeL8]

BTW, I forgot to tell you when I was testing the MK dair, it takes some good timing to get it to work. If you're just throwing Utilts out there when the MK short hops, he's going to be able to get in during lag. It's totally a viable counter, but it would take practice.

 

[infomon]

Lists like these are silly, they take a tremendous amount of work to produce and in the end it's just kinda misleading. Just learn how the priority system works in Brawl and then you should understand what situations you can use the up-tilt in.

 

[Flayl]

Lists like these are silly, they take a tremendous amount of work to produce and in the end it's just kinda misleading. Just learn how the priority system works in Brawl and then you should understand what situations you can use the up-tilt in.

Isn't that what we're doing?

10uselessposts

 

[8AngeL8]

Lists like these might give people ideas on how to counter things. A Bowser player might be having trouble with MK, see this list, and realize he has a counter to the Dair. Not everyone wants to test every single move against every single move, so why not just compile it all here on the boards?

 

[Inferno_blaze]

Lists like these are silly, they take a tremendous amount of work to produce and in the end it's just kinda misleading. Just learn how the priority system works in Brawl and then you should understand what situations you can use the up-tilt in.

Um there is no priority in regards to aerials. It's just whoever's hitbox connects with the other character first...

 

[8AngeL8]

Um there is no priority in regards to aerials. It's just whoever's hitbox connects with the other character first...

Not true, there is priority on aerials. For example, Falco's bair has a more extended hitbox than his nair, but the nair will cancel out MK's glide attack, while the bair won't.