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rizate my ghizanadhizorf

EMOMONEY

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Jan 16, 2007
Messages
184
so meh and my friend was playin smash and i was like using gannon, and i thought he was pretty cool, so i was wondering if u guys could give me some help/tips on wat i could aprove upon, here are few vids of me playing against my frizend

me vs falco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC06daslqEA

me vs fox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlUHOYlzmUw

me vs marth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9rCDckD6LE

me vs falco 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0DQNTariks

me vs falcon 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr77VoXNJkY
 

Jooce Bocks

Smash Cadet
Joined
Oct 25, 2006
Messages
37
Location
South Rockwood, MI
First of all, I'll let the rest of the post go with a warning, but you will never improve calling him ghizanadhizorf :p . It's a fact. Now I'm a newb as well(I'm not trying to say you're a newb to the game, but from your post it seems you're new to Ganon, so I'm just trying to indicate that I am not trying to insult in any way/shape/form), but I am going to try to point out some things. I hope I am not about to make you and every other Ganondorf player stupider for trying.
Your edge game looked like it could use some help. You seemed to use the basic returning from the ledge. I saw once or twice where letting go of the ledge and returning with a UAir or something would have been a wise choice, but you simply did a roll back on or jumped back on.
You also seemed to be a little too aggressive at the beginning of some of the matches and it looked like it costed a stock or two some of the time. When I did see the shield it was often used too early or too long and you were grabbed. It also seemed like you could probably benefit by using a WD from time to time. Whenever you charged your opponent you short hopped an aerial, a WD away into a JC grab to mix things up could probably help, since I believe Ganondorf has a mean grab game.
That's about all I have to say. Hope I'm not just wasting your time. I'm hoping maybe what I have to say gets corrected by a smarter person(s) if need be.
 

ppa0

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Apr 18, 2006
Messages
399
rofl at the title, and i think ur gannon is decent, but u should definitevly up ur edge game
 

Zenjamin

Smash Lord
Joined
Sep 12, 2006
Messages
1,244
Location
Reading, Pa.
too aggressive?

nope.
here is your real problem...
L-CANCEL!!
you just missed it too much.
A ganon who does not L-cancel at least 90% of the time can't really be fast enough too be considered aggressive.



L-canceling is #1

once you have mastered L-canceling, read on...
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once you have mastered shorthopping and fast falling read on...
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once you can shffL most or all of your aerials read on...
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congratulations! you have just become at least 300% better!... but still have much to learn.



vids to watch
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=72556
(dont listen to what wak says in the thread. just go straght to watching his vids vid #1 is most important)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv-sYkwmR-E
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=magus+ganon


thread to read
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=59396


also. use downB less. a shffled air does just as much (or more) damage, almost as much (or more) knockback, and is way faster where as the lag on dowmB cannot be canceled and leaves you open ofr ****...


one more thing... NEVER call Ganondorf "ghizanadhizorf" again...














incase you forgot... the moral of the story is to L-CANCEL!!.
work on that and then ask about more advanced stuff like mindgames.



EDIT:
i had just watched the vs marth vid and the vs falco vid when i wrote this.
wow you are much better in your falcon vids. what happened? were these recorded at different times or something? i even saw a ledgetech and a useful ledge slide.

just keep working on mindgameing into a shffled attack and keep the pressure on.
also i notice your semi ledge techs, perhaps its time you learned the ledgehop Uair (start flicking the Cstick right, start to DI above the stage while flicking the Cstick up.)

maby i was so quick to criticize because of your tag (i have a thing aganost emos who wear girl pants and wear makeup and cant keep their emotions in check because they want attention and ...)
i did notice you got hit by a knee because of a failed downB though.:p

overall, verry nice improvement, keep it up.
:)
 

Jooce Bocks

Smash Cadet
Joined
Oct 25, 2006
Messages
37
Location
South Rockwood, MI
I noticed he didn't L-cancel every time, but it looked to me like he was still performing L-cancels fairly often. Meaning I believe he is probably already in the process of working on those. Maybe I just haven't played in too long to remember Ganondorf's lag time though.
I didn't mean "too aggressive" in the sense that he attacked too much as much as I meant he seemed to run in too "head first", or however you want to say it. It looked like it may have been a little predictable that he is going to short hop an FAir. However, that may be from a spectator's point of view (I know things can change once you're actuallyin the match (which I don't get to play enough of)).
I may not have payed enough attention, but the only WDs I recall seeing were actually wavelanding, or whatever you call it.(Too tired right now, **** insomnia keeping me here). I didn't notice many WDs executed in the actual combat. They should help get the grab game up a little and probably mix things up a little overall.
 

falco_4_life

Smash Lord
Joined
Aug 31, 2006
Messages
1,220
Location
Abilene, TX
like everyone else is pretty much saying your edgeguarding sucks ***.
n practice on your l-cancel, Ganondorf l-cancel are easy except for his stomp time is a lil funky when someone shields or u catch a lil bit off the ground but once u get the hang of it its pretty easy
 

bowz10190

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Dec 2, 2006
Messages
122
Location
western pa
i watched the vs marth vid. its a decent ganon. umm, nothing original to say other than what the others said. l cancel and work on the edge guard.
 

Joe 4'Sho

Smash Cadet
Joined
Jan 18, 2007
Messages
65
chu12ch, what you said about the down bs, dont ever say that again.

haha, they are what make my ganon what he is. which is probably why he's not...too good. :D

edit: n00000b me doesnt know how to quote. :(
 

UchihaDemon

Smash Cadet
Joined
Feb 10, 2006
Messages
29
Location
USR, NJ
ok....
1. i dont even know what u called ganon but its ****en dumb
2. the falco and falcon u played were really bad, and those were ur only wins
3. learn to l-cancel, u barely did it
4. USE DAIR its a much better choice than most of the ones u used and it woulda set u up to win against that marth
5. ur waiting too long to kill ur opponents. the rule of thumb is that ganon kills at 70%
 

Githyanki

Smash Rookie
Joined
Feb 20, 2007
Messages
4
Location
Columbus,OH
Yeah...you should L-Cancel more often....It takes time to get down, but Ganon is an easy character to learn it with. Also, as a side note, you should stop double jumping for air attacks. It didn't really screw you over in these videos you provided, but after watching them, i already know how to beat you. You're leaving yourself WAY too open. BE AGGRESSIVE!! BE EVIL!!
 
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