ROB Q&A!! Read this before asking questions...ALL OF IT!

[ipitydatfu]

im terrified with the mariobros matchup, one screwup, and your're effed up the butthole.

about marth? any smart rob with a decent sense of spacing can eliminate many options for approaching.

 

[JCaesar]

Some of the matchups are debatable, but my point still stands: no single character is **** when MK is taken out of the picture. The top 5 or 6 are fairly well balanced and are all capable of winning large tournaments (along with the occasional Wario, Peach, Diddy, Kirby, etc. out of left field).

OS I have to know, what thread is your sig quote from?

 

[WarranThad]

if you say so, i won't be sticking around to find out how right you are, but i'll probably continue enjoying doubles

 

[Overswarm]

Some of the matchups are debatable, but my point still stands: no single character is **** when MK is taken out of the picture. The top 5 or 6 are fairly well balanced and are all capable of winning large tournaments (along with the occasional Wario, Peach, Diddy, Kirby, etc. out of left field).

OS I have to know, what thread is your sig quote from?

a thread in the back room

 

[JCaesar]

Doh .

 

[DRaGZ]

I'd rather have Snake running all over the place than MetaKnights.

 

[SenorPresidente]

Well of course, Snake actually has bad match ups and on topic of snake how do you blow the grenades? Obviously you are supposed blow them near him so he can take damage but is there a certain rhythm to it? Sometimes i get overwhelm with nades.

 

[TheREALShadowChaos]

At least your opponent has no right for johns when he loses with MK.

So you don't have to listen to complaints like "It's no fair I just suicided with my Nadospam" or any other MK john.

 

[JJR.O.B.]

Well of course, Snake actually has bad match ups and on topic of snake how do you blow the grenades? Obviously you are supposed blow them near him so he can take damage but is there a certain rhythm to it? Sometimes i get overwhelm with nades.

As soon as he pulls out a grenade, laser him. The grenade will explode.

 

[ipitydatfu]

i'd rather play against 2 ddd's and risk gettin double chaingrabbed

 

[JCaesar]

I'd rather be wobbled for 8 minutes than fight a MK.

I feel more in control.

 

[Sudai]

I'd rather be wobbled for 8 minutes than fight a MK.

I feel more in control.

I'm tempted to change my sig to this.

 

[JCaesar]

Hard to say, that one you have is priceless.

Then again, change is good

 

[JJR.O.B.]

I'm tempted to change my sig to this.

If you don't I'll take it.

 

[Sudai]

Go for it JJ. So long as I get to keep seeing it, I'm happy. XD

 

[Overswarm]

I've changed my mind. I love all the cutoff "ban MK" sigs. Anyone that doesn't know what they are will see a full one eventually then go "OH, that's what those were"

 

[stingers]

Who knows how long that will be

Look how bad my cutoff MK sig is.

 

[Sudai]

lol..can't even see yours.

 

[JJR.O.B.]

All I can see is a little strip of white. lolol

Maybe it will make people wonder what it says more.

 

[CJTHeroofTime]

Wow, no posts for almost an entire week?

Anyway, how do you guys generally punish GaW's dair? I'm finding the second set of hitboxes from that attack increasingly annoying. Is the best way to just sheild the entire attack and then grab? Or is there another way that doesn't involve waiting for those stupid hitboxes to end?

Edit: Random question...Why is this thread not stickied?

 

[DRaGZ]

I always grab it. Either shield grab or I dash grab at the right moment.

 

[Sudai]

This thread isn't stickied cause we have actual guides and more useful post that are? This post is useful, but it's not sticky worthy, IMO.

As for punishing the DAir, just shield through it. DSmash out of shield or grabbing works depending on their distance. If you powershield the first hit, you can spotdodge and avoid the second hit. I can't remember if that gave enough time to punish or not though. Fux wif it.

 

[Overswarm]

This thread isn't stickied cause we have actual guides and more useful post that are? This post is useful, but it's not sticky worthy, IMO.

Yez.

Think of this as a thread that just has everyone subscribed to it already, so you'll see a bunch of people answering your question



Also, anyone see all I've done with the metaknight movement? :D

 

[toasty]

nah I'm totally oblivious to it actually, OS [no...really >_>]

 

[CJTHeroofTime]

does the spotdodge after powersheild really avoid all the hit boxes? I think I always get hit by the last couple of hitboxes after a powershield->spotdodge. Ill mess around with it. Da mn turtle.

 

[Sudai]

does the spotdodge after powersheild really avoid all the hit boxes? I think I always get hit by the last couple of hitboxes after a powershield->spotdodge. Ill mess around with it. Da mn turtle.

I thought we were talking about the DAir? BAir just powershield the first hit and roll away or behind depending on their spacing.

 

[CJTHeroofTime]

o wow your right. I didnt even realize i switched the move i was talking about lol.
but anyway, I played my GaW friend today, and as it turns out I accidentally powershield=>spot dodge the turtle, and it worked. Idk if it was the spacing or just luck tho. Anyway, for the dair, I found sheilding both hitboxes then grabbing worked most often. I also noticed that if GaW dairs while hes not directly above you, you can time a dash attack that catches him during the ending lag, right after the second hitboxes. It worked well near the edge as it played right into some fairs.

 

[Darth JoBak]

Question: How do I drop the Gyro straight down so that it falls slowly beneath me? I am about to go try and figure this out on my own but in case I can't, HOW?

ie How do I do this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDIFMRqynfc
@ 1:45

 

[toasty]

just fyi, don't post the same question in multiple threads

 

[Darth JoBak]

got it, thanks again for the answer toasty

back to the subject

o wow your right. I didnt even realize i switched the move i was talking about lol.
but anyway, I played my GaW friend today, and as it turns out I accidentally powershield=>spot dodge the turtle, and it worked. Idk if it was the spacing or just luck tho. Anyway, for the dair, I found sheilding both hitboxes then grabbing worked most often. I also noticed that if GaW dairs while hes not directly above you, you can time a dash attack that catches him during the ending lag, right after the second hitboxes. It worked well near the edge as it played right into some fairs.

it is possible but the timing has to be such that the vulnerable part (the initial part) of the spot dodge is inbetween hits from the turtle, the frame rate data would help

 

[noodles]

whats a good cp character against peach?

 

[toasty]

hmmm...I personally hate Yoshi's Island but the sloped floor fuxes with her quick-float game...but that doesn't limit a smart Peach player TOO much...maybe a big level where you can camp the crap out of her hahaha...she's not terribly fast when you're running away just throwing crap. But that's your preference. I don't prefer to use that style unless 100% necessary, but even then I'm usually not cool-headed enough to stick to it since I'm programmed like Nacker and JCaez for raperaperaperaperape

 

[JCaesar]

He was asking for a cp character, since Peach is one of ROB's tougher matchups. I personally will always stick to ROB for this one, as I already have a lot of practice against good Peaches. But I know G&W ***** her ****, and I think Marth does well, and there's always MK...

 

[noodles]

much appreciated ill cp gaw. i would mk but thatd be gay. good to know anout stages too thx toasty

 

[TeeVee]

noodles is worried about dark pch lol


im worried about ninjalink >_>

wish me luck at the tourny today!

 

[ipitydatfu]

Good Luck!

 

[toasty]

Wow you know I can't read, stfu Brett >_<

Why can't I be as asian as KornNNNnNNNnnNnnnnNNNn~!@!$!@!#%@#$

at least I'd have an excuse >_> hahaha

 

[TeeVee]

got 5th at the tourny, ninjalink sent me to losers and ****ing dark pch knocked me out >=|



at least me and dark pch won doubles...

 

[noodles]

icynoodles will get you next time *shakes fists*

 

[stingers]

dark pch is easy mode

**** he's bad

>_>