Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[FlareHabanero]

Well I'm not sure if K.Rool's size was consistent in the 3D games either, then again he probably was. How tall was he in Mario Super Sluggers and Donkey Kong Jet Race? :/

K. Rool was around Bowser's size in Mario Super Sluggers at least.

The guy basically changes size based on the demand in hand. If he's a boss he's going to usually be a towering behemoth, if he's going to be playable he's going to be barely taller then everyone else. Basically the same type of deal Bowser goes through.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Okay, now that I think about it, maybe the Super Metroid comparison isn't the best example as it's older hardware and can't display Ridley's true might. So here, the big coupe de gras anti-Ridley people use...

The actual comparison of Ridley to Samus using their Smash Bros Brawl models. Okay, first off, Ridley is designed here to be bigger than what he was in the original Super Metroid, but I digress. Let's say Samus is 6'2" just like she was in the last comparison, and Ridley here, when crouching is around 12"6', a little over half her height, just like he was in Super Metroid. Now then, if you take his upper leg and extend it straight out so his legs are standing properly like in a T-Base measurement, I'd estimate his upper legs are around 4 1/2 feet long, the bottom of his legs making the total increase of his height around 6'3" meaning his height now is 18'9". BUT, if you take his neck and make it stand more upward, that adds an extra foot, making Ridley's official size in Brawl 19'9", three inches short of 20 feet tall. That means he's 3 1/2 feet taller here than what he is in the actual Super Metroid, but he's still over 9 feet shorter than that of K.Rool. Also, those wings are designed to be waaaay too big, Ridley's wings are not supposed to be that wide.

 

[Curious Villager]

K. Rool was around Bowser's size in Mario Super Sluggers at least.

The guy basically changes size based on the demand in hand. If he's a boss he's going to usually be a towering behemoth, if he's going to be playable he's going to be barely taller then everyone else. Basically the same type of deal like Bowser.

Ah, well if it's the same deal with Bowser then I'd imagine that he'd likely be as tall as Bowser again if he were playable in Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS. Especially with Bowser standing more upright and all.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Guys.
K. Rool can breathe fire too.

Remember Jungle Climber?

All two people remembered Donkey Kong: Jungle Climber.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Ah, well if it's the same deal with Bowser then I'd imagine that he'd likely be as tall as Bowser again if he were playable in Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS. Especially with Bowser standing more upright and all.

Well if K.Rool and Bowser can be around the same size, I think Ridley, who's actually most likely the smallest of the three, to be playable as well, although from what I can tell, Bowser and Ridley are actually quite close to one another in size comparisons.

Guys.
K. Rool can breathe fire too.

Remember Jungle Climber?

I would say yes, but I like to keep a rule of not remembering terrible games.

 

[Curious Villager]

Well if K.Rool and Bowser can be around the same size, I think Ridley, who's actually most likely the smallest of the three, to be playable as well, although from what I can tell, Bowser and Ridley are actually quite close to one another in size comparisons.

Yeah Ridley can work as well of course. I can imagine him being about as tall as Bowser is right now anyway.

 

[SuperBrawler]

Am I the only one who actually would love it if Dr Mario came back with a revamped moveset?

 

[Hotfeet444]

Yeah Ridley can work as well of course. I can imagine him being about as tall as Bowser is right now anyway.

I think Ridley would be slightly taller if you count his wings as height. But I personally believe if K.Rool gets in, he should be taller than both of them, because he clearly is.

 

[Deleted member]

First, I'm not sure "graphical limitation" can apply to Super Metroid. Not after Kraid and Mother Brain, both of which tower over Ridley in said game (especially Kraid).

Second, that image is not a direct comparison of Brawl size; Angelglory took the models and made size adjustments among all characters to compare them if they were in their "canon" sizes.
If you want a direct size comparison from Brawl, you should ask Mario_and_Sonic_Guy.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

Am I the only one who actually would love it if Dr Mario came back with a revamped moveset?

Yes.

I think if we got a second Mario with a distinct moveset from regular Mario, more people would want to see Paper Mario as a playable character before Dr. Mario, to be honest.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Am I the only one who actually would love it if Dr Mario came back with a revamped moveset?

Golden would. He seems to have a soft spot for that character.

 

[Curious Villager]

I think Ridley would be slightly taller if you count his wings as height. But I personally believe if K.Rool gets in, he should be taller than both of them, because he clearly is.

Well if we looked at the current K Rool compared to Bowser.

He looks like he would be about Bowser's current height from Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS, then again I guess he could be a little taller. I would imagine Ridley (in his Other M design) being around their height, maybe a little taller, just a little.

 

[Arcadenik]

I guess Ridley could have Bowser's Melee/Brawl running animation since he's always crouching... well, he has to crouch to make himself appear smaller than he really is.

 

[Curious Villager]

well, he has to crouch to make himself appear smaller than he really is.

Well they did something like that for Wolf, if size really is that much of an issue for Ridley, I guess they could do the same for him....

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I think K. Rool, Bowser, and Ridley would probably all be roughly around each other's size, with some slight differences.

 

[3Bismyname]

its just now dawning on me that every villain in Smash, as well as the candidates, are pretty big... hmm o well its just indicative of Nintendo characters in general

 

[PK-Omelette]

I have no idea why but when I see that, the Cipher Admin theme from Pokémon XD Gale of Darkness plays in my head...

 

[Hotfeet444]

I guess Ridley could have Bowser's Melee/Brawl running animation since he's always crouching... well, he has to crouch to make himself appear smaller than he really is.

I always pictured his run being a flight animation with his legs curled up this body to avoid taking up space during the dash. And if we're going by that logic, they might as well make K.Rool sit down all the time so he doesn't tower over everyone.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

its just now dawning on me that every villain in Smash, as well as the candidates, are pretty big... hmm o well its just indicative of Nintendo characters in general

Ganondorf confirmed to be too big for Smash.

 

[Curious Villager]

I'm pretty sure the big guys will look just fine in smash without taking all these crazy poses just to look small. xD

 

[3Bismyname]

Ganondorf confirmed to be too big for Smash.

eh he is tall and a heavy weight so i guess thats more along the lines of what i meant.

 

[SuperBrawler]

Lets think of the smallest Smash reps!

I go first, Wario!

 

[Swamp Sensei]

its just now dawning on me that every villain in Smash, as well as the candidates, are pretty big... hmm o well its just indicative of Nintendo characters in general

I dunno.

Wario's kinda short. Meta-Knight (he kinda is) is Kirby's height and Wolf is just slightly above Fox's height.

Lets think of the smallest Smash reps!


I go first, Wario!

or .

 

[PK-Omelette]

Why does everyone here seem to be supporting making them the "Wailord" of the Smash universe? I know PBR was the first game to actually have Wailord's actual size but geeze, I didn't think other people would be this supporting of spreading it around to others

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Lets think of the smallest Smash reps!

I go first, Wario!

Pichu.

Did I win?

 

[3Bismyname]

I dunno.

Wario's kinda short. Meta-Knight (he kinda is) is Kirby's height and Wolf is just slightly above Fox's height.

its debatable if those are villains though. Warios a villain when convenient to a Mario plot, otherwise he's more of an anti-hero. Meta Knight bounces between the 2 roles a lot as well. but i guess i forgot about Wolf *shrugs*

 

[PK-Omelette]

Pichu.

Pikmin... as itself.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Lets think of the smallest Smash reps!

I go first, Wario!

Wario

smallest

I'd like to play the bull**** card, please.

 

[Curious Villager]

Kirby. Did I win yet?

If not, Kirby in Tiny Mode with Poison Mushroom on.

 

[Gune]

Game n watch.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Kirby. Did I win yet?

If not, Kirby in Tiny Mode with Poison Mushroom on.

Jigglypuff while crouching in Tiny mode under a Poison mushrooms effects.

Is a winner me?

 

[Curious Villager]

Jigglypuff while crouching in Tiny mode under a Poison mushrooms effects.

Is a winner me?

Yoshi with the Shrinking glitch!

I won! :D

 

[SuperBrawler]

I meant villain, oh God what have I done? Stupid typo. That's the smallest villain I could think of in 2 seconds, ok? Tucking fypo.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Yoshi with the Shrinking glitch!

I won! :D

 

[Gune]

and everything goes silent....

 

[Curious Villager]

and everything goes silent....

Naw I'm just celebrating the fact I won, see.

Spoiler

Okay back on topic. What shall we talk about now?

 

[KingofPhantoms]

How do you all feel about Plusle and Minun being added?

 

[Deleted member]

The brother thing was a mistake that Nintendo made. Cranky Kong even stated that K. Rool gave up his "silly" disguises once Donkey Kong 64 entered the scene.

Not a mistake; a localization error.
Kaptain and Baron ARE his brothers in Japan.

 

[MattX20]

To be honest, I'd prefer Plusle and Minun as Pokeball characters rather than playable.

 

[Curious Villager]

I'm okay with Plusle and Minun I guess, got nothing against them. Though I would rather see some other Pokemon newcomers before them first. :/