Cloak and Dagger
Smash Journeyman
and quit typing Smooth Criminal after all of your posts, thats what sigs are for.
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How about I not and we'll say I did, mmkay?and quit typing Smooth Criminal after all of your posts, thats what sigs are for.
Didn't call him a moron, Lavis. I just made the assumption that he was a casual player; that's all. I don't see why there should be a negative connotation here.
Casual players really don't have a place in threads like these---no doubt even YOU can attest to that. It's not to say casual players can't post their opinion or anything like that, but they should at least have the decency to back it up with a little more than "hear-say" which is what I feel Chu is doing.
Then again, I AM assuming that he's casual. Perhaps he is looking to be more competitive. Who knows? Only he knows, and I hope that he rectifies what I'm saying by telling me otherwise.
>___> So please. Don't jump my **** for thinking I insult people. You should know me better than that.
Smooth Criminal
It's frustrating, but what can you do?Urgh, the whole "casual"/"hardcore" terminology. They're so arbitrary and vague; their meaning shifts from context to context and from user to user.
This is actually an intelligent post.I'm probably going to get seriously flamed for this, but here it goes. After reading all the posts Scar had put up on the original post, I don't get what people are arguing about. It's obvious that Melee is more competitive than Brawl, but that doesn't mean pople can't still have fun with Brawl. The point of these games is to have fun, so just because Melee is more competitive than Brawl, that doesn't mean that you can't still have fun playing brawl.
Now I know people are going to jump to the conclusion that I'm just some casual player backing up Brawl because I wasn't good at Melee, but that's not true at all. I enjoy Melee more than Brawl, I just think people should enjoy both games.
That's my opinion on this whole thing, so flame me if you wish.
>.>I feel the same way about the better competitive game being more fun. Maybe if I had gone to Melee tournaments and such I would be WAY more one sided towards Melee, but due to being only 14 years old, I can't drive and attend tournaments. I just think that some people are starting to forget what these games were made for, and that is to have fun. Don't get me wrong though, I'm completely on your side about Melee being the more competitive game.
Yeah, that would be kind of weird.>.>
Don't you think the players that are invested in the game the most, that spend the most time on it, get the most out of it?
in other words, melee tournaments were (are) insanely fun. For people who enjoy brawl, I'm sure a brawl tournament is the same. A tournament for any good game takes the fun to the next level, if you're of the right personality type.
Also, it's not really relevant what the game was "made for", unless you consider video game designers as omnipotent beings who know what's best for us...
And you are proving that 08 members are instigating children who like to get defensive without giving any reason why, thus supporting the Melee elitist.This topic proves the elitist attitude that is associated with Melee.
No, it's more so the fact people go for the, "If you like Brawl more than Melee you suck as a smash player and you should kill yourself"And you are proving that 08 members are instigating children who like to get defensive without giving any reason why, thus supporting the Melee elitist.
I don't judge people who like Brawl more than Melee until they post in here. It's not my fault a huge portion of the pro-Brawl crowd that comes in here can't string together a coherent argument and has an incredible capacity for ignorance.No, it's more so the fact people go for the, "If you like Brawl more than Melee you suck as a smash player and you should kill yourself"
It's a poor attitude that results in unneeded conflict and shows for a lack of intelligence.
No, I do play brawl and i played melee 0_0Lol. I'd say that Chu is just too lazy to play.
wow thanks again -_-But, whatever, Chu is just ignorant and naive. Something that can be improved. A person is only dumb when they refuse to accept knowledge to fill in their ignorance.
More fun, not "funner" and u said funner 3 times in one 2 sentence paragraph, i think you should have a talk with coreygames about grammar.As for which one is funner, it which one you think is funner. There is not one that is actually more funner then the other because its just their opinion.
Obviously you didn't play enough Melee to figure out that you can get out of virtually any combo through smart DI and/or interrupting attacks.No, I do play brawl and i played melee 0_0
Speed of melee makes it more competitive? Id say if once you start a combo in melee the opponent cant do anything once it hits id say that would make it less competitive.
I don't usually quote WoT's from this far back, but I just had to applaud LavisFiend for how accurate this is.Thing is though, that he has proven himself to be dumb (or at least, dense) which is why referring to him as a casual player seems to me like dressing up the fact that he is a moron by calling him a term for a general audience which is wrongly stereotyped here to begin with.
I am a casual player, but it is by choice. I just don't have the time nor money to do what is necessary to be competitive anymore. I was very involved with getting better at Melee, and just when I started to get the hang of things Brawl comes along and erases that. I reckon I could stay with Melee, but the thing is in order for me to do that I have to continue my training and I just don't have the time nor patience to do that. Maybe once I get all this crap done involving Pre-Dent I will, but that is heavily relient on how the Melee scene is holding up.
If the Melee scene comes back and gathers up even more momentum then before, the leap is obvious; if not, I will just tinker around with Brawl and hope to god a local tournament comes up so I can win me a free TV.
The thing is, Casual players like me can't dedicate the time we would like to honing our skills, and we barely have any time for ourselves. Brawl is a great game to play for that because there is just nothing to worry about; once you get good with a character it is 10-15 minutes play time and you got all the training done for the day. My melee training sessions used to be hours due to all the research I did with my combos.
Everytime I see casual player associated with a dense person it triggers off a wailing alarm in my head that won't silence because it is unfair to justify a moron in a classification that is purely a group of people who don't have the time to dedicate like they would want to.
No harm done Smooth, just how I see things.
As for this, I want to legitimately ask a question. To the extent of my knowledge, multiple Street Fighter games are played competitively. There is one Street Fighter game that is better for competition than all the rest (because there is no way they can all be equal), but regardless of this fact multiple versions of Street Fighter are still played in a competitive setting. Why can't this thinking apply? All the talk I hear is that 'Melee is better than Brawl, and we should go back to Melee because Brawl is so bad', but why is this the case? Why can't the community as a whole just go, 'We see the inherent flaws in both games, as well as both of their strengths. We think Melee is a more competitive game, but there is a venue for both games, so we will support both games'?We're not at all trying to say that people can't enjoy playing Brawl. It's simply that, as a competitive community (which we seem to be rapidly unbecoming), we have to decide which game is the best platform for competition. That doesn't mean one is fun and one isn't, though some people, like myself, will say that the better competitive game is more fun for us.
But, yeah, the whole point of the debate was to decide which game is the one the competitive community looks to for serious consideration and appraisal of skill and tact, not just simply whether its fun or not.
However, if it's all about just whether its fun or not, then we aren't really a competitive community anymore, and just some sort of smash fansite.
I gave up on arguing with 08 members just a moment ago when I realized how stupid they are.^ You see that pro-brawl guys.
Be more like jack..>_>;
Well, I guess I did make it sort of seem like we had to choose one or the other in that post, but I have been vocal in my support of using both games for tournaments. I think that Brawl, even though I have issues with it, could be a really great tool to recruit people into the competitive Smash community. I really want a dual boot community, because properly implemented and done, would be of great benefit to both games.As for this, I want to legitimately ask a question. To the extent of my knowledge, multiple Street Fighter games are played competitively. There is one Street Fighter game that is better for competition than all the rest (because there is no way they can all be equal), but regardless of this fact multiple versions of Street Fighter are still played in a competitive setting. Why can't this thinking apply? All the talk I hear is that 'Melee is better than Brawl, and we should go back to Melee because Brawl is so bad', but why is this the case? Why can't the community as a whole just go, 'We see the inherent flaws in both games, as well as both of their strengths. We think Melee is a more competitive game, but there is a venue for both games, so we will support both games'?