Shorthopping, ARGH!

[Tewn Lynk]

For some reason, I just can't grasp the ability to shorthop successfully; I've tried multiple times and I manage to do it about one in every ten or so jumps.

I especially have this problem online with other players, because of the half second or so lag with jumps and attacks.

It's kind of frustrating to not be able to shorthop with Toon Link.

Anyone suggest something on how to move my fingers? I use the GameCube controller by the way.

 

[Matador]

For some reason, I just can't grasp the ability to shorthop successfully; I've tried multiple times and I manage to do it about one in every ten or so jumps.

I especially have this problem online with other players, because of the half second or so lag with jumps and attacks.

It's kind of frustrating to not be able to shorthop with Toon Link.

Anyone suggest something on how to move my fingers? I use the GameCube controller by the way.

Don't jump with analog.

 

[Steel]

Let go of the jump button before you leave the ground

 

[Royale]

go to your control set up and turn off tap jump. make a few name with the tap jump set on/off and practice fighting with tap jump off. It'll help you short hop.

 

[Tewn Lynk]

Hmm...

I'll try some of this stuff later. Thanks a lot. ^_^

 

[Sosuke]

Use X or Y.
The only simple solution.

 

[smasher32]

Assuming you keep trying short hops with X or Y, think this:

"Finger on hot plate"

Have fun

 

[nakedsnake]

tap x quickly or just flick the control stick

 

[Yuna]

This is how Shorthopping works:
You have to let go of jump before your character leaves the ground.

That is all. The speed with which you hit jump is inconsequential, it's all about the speed of which you let go of jump. Just practice.

 

[Ayaz18]

short hopping is wayyyyyy easy in brawl, melee however was considerably tougher

 

[FBM]

I do it by flicking the lower 1/3 of the X button with a downward stroke from my thumb. The only time I have problems with it is when I get really excited and I'm trying to aerial cancel.

 

[betterthanbonds9]

short hopping is wayyyyyy easy in brawl, melee however was considerably tougher

QFT

play melee as shiek, learn to SH, play brawl, laugh at yourself from a day ago

 

[keeper]

QFT

play melee as shiek, learn to SH, play brawl, laugh at yourself from a day ago

I actually did that.

I got used to it in melee first, then did it in brawl and it is a ton easier.

 

[Razmakazi]

meh, wut i did was play cpu's for a little bit. screwing around w/ attempted short hop aerials. after a while shorthopping was np. practice i guess? =o

 

[MarTh-]

once you get short hopping down try to nuetral+a with the short hop. Once you get that down, fast fall with it. Then try doing that with moving forward & backward in the air & use other aerials. I'd recommend practicing with Marth.

 

[Rh1thmz]

It looks like the situation is under control, but if you still need help, you can just graze your thumb across the bottom tip of the X button to shorthop. This really isn't necessary in Brawl, but it really helps me in Melee.

 

[Samuelson]

Go get Melee and try short hopping with Fox for about an hour and then play Brawl again. Short hopping will be so easy in comparison.

 

[Ayaz18]

QFT

play melee as shiek, learn to SH, play brawl, laugh at yourself from a day ago

iunno if your agreeing with me or not, my point was that in melee it was way tougher to SH, let alone to SHFFL

 

[Johnthegalactic]

iunno if your agreeing with me or not, my point was that in melee it was way tougher to SH, let alone to SHFFL

SHFFL is possible in Brawl? Lag-Canceling is removed, so wouldnt it be something like SHFFACT, Short Hop Fast Fall Auto-Canceled Aerial...shh..it's a fact that you can SHFFACT(cool name).
Wait, you were speaking of SHFFL in Melee, still, that is a cool name I have up their, SHFFACT...say it.

 

[Ayaz18]

SHFFL is possible in Brawl? Lag-Canceling is removed, so wouldnt it be something like SHFFACT, Short Hop Fast Fall Auto-Canceled Aerial...shh..it's a fact that you can SHFFACT(cool name).
Wait, you were speaking of SHFFL in Melee, still, that is a cool name I have up their, SHFFACT...say it.

*facepalms*

im obviously im talking about SH in melee, then I said LET ALONE SHFFLing, jesus people doesn't anyone know what the use of a comma is.....

.............*whispers quitely* SHFFACT.........man that sounds so cool

 

[MRTW113]

Simple, just tap the control stick lightly upwards...
Just turn off tap jump and keep practicing in training mode or home run contest.

 

[Johnthegalactic]

*facepalms*

im obviously im talking about SH in melee, then I said LET ALONE SHFFLing, jesus people doesn't anyone know what the use of a comma is.....

.............*whispers quitely* SHFFACT.........man that sounds so cool

I knew that(half way through writing my message when I rechecked what you said), other than that I pretty much facepalmed myself when I reread what you said, but SHFFACT is definately a better sounding term than SHFFL.

 

[Vampirekain]

Ok for SH to work all you need to know is not how to press the button or flick the analog stick.
You need to know that it has to do with the speed of release.
So the easiest way that you can do this is picking a button X or Y whatever feels more natural to you.Go to the training mode pick FD or a similar stage and run around pressing X/Y with a fast and ''firm'' movement. In about half an hour tops you''ll get the hand of it.

 

[crifer]

haha,
i have sometimes the problem that i can not full hop xD

 

[Vilt]

Pfft. Who needs shorthopping? Use them full-jump mindgames. >< XD Jk jk. You just need to quickly hit the jump button. Like when you get caught masterbating and let go of your wang. Just do it fast. XD

 

[Vampirekain]

With so many replies about such a simple thing I think he gets what we're saying so lets just let the guy read his responses and let this topic move along the pages so other posts can replace it.

 

[TickleMePick1e]

who was the hardest character to sh with in brawl was it fox or shiek ut yea it is so easy to sh with any char do it so much its hard not to do it

 

[SKnickers03]

You gotta love X or Y like a woman...firm, but soft

 

[OrlanduEX]

Simple, just tap the control stick lightly upwards...
Just turn off tap jump and keep practicing in training mode or home run contest.

Ok for SH to work all you need to know is not how to press the button or flick the analog stick.
You need to know that it has to do with the speed of release.
So the easiest way that you can do this is picking a button X or Y whatever feels more natural to you.Go to the training mode pick FD or a similar stage and run around pressing X/Y with a fast and ''firm'' movement. In about half an hour tops you''ll get the hand of it.

Wait what? you can short hop with the stick?

And has anyone noticed the redundancy in "short hop"? I mean doesn't "hop" conote a "short jump" already? I know it's far to late to be bringing this up, but still....

 

[betterthanbonds9]

iunno if your agreeing with me or not, my point was that in melee it was way tougher to SH, let alone to SHFFL

agreeing, i found SHing with shiek difficult because it looks the same so i never knew i did it right >_>

-note: ^about 3 years ago

Melee jump animations were faster, thus, it's harder to SH in melee

 

[geekd]

practice on someone like ganon to begin. he has a long jump animation

 

[eyestrain92]

You gotta love X or Y like a woman...firm, but soft

OH WOW. I lawl'd.

I hate to say it, but the only way to do it is through practice. Also, at the guy who led on to the full description of SHFFL training, thanks. Bowser doesn't seem so based on it, but any more speed I can get would help. Never tried training that way, just tried it all at once and that failed.

 

[Lovage 805]

if you have trouble short hopping in brawl maybe video games aren't your thing

 

[NJzFinest]

Not being able to short hop in brawl = wow.

 

[Shy Guy 86]

Try with someone who has a high First Jump, like Falco, then you'll see big difference, its not that hard at all.

 

[viparagon]

Practice trying how to sh with fox in melee.
I still have problems with it.

 

[MuBa]

Try practicing short hopping with the Ice Climbers in Melee. They're even harder to do than Fox =/

 

[Cyclopean]

Here is how I learned. You need something very hot, you can let a stove heat up, or leave an Xbox plugged in for a few hours. Just stick your finger on it and then remove it as fast as you can. Repeat until you can do it without getting burned .

 

[Oracle]

This is brawl. It is incredibly easy to shorthop. Practice with bowser.

 

[NJzFinest]

Try practicing short hopping with the Ice Climbers in Melee. They're even harder to do than Fox =/

CunningKitsune says you're wrong.