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Social *sigh* oh the life of a Zelda main [A new zelda discussion zone]
- Thread starter Dark Hart
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Upke
Smash Journeyman
You're my hero, Lake.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
That's really useful to know. I'm going to mess around with it and see if I can find some applications aside from the one mentioned.
Upke
Smash Journeyman
Well, I know if you're more comfortable with bair, seeing as it's faster, you can use the quick turnaround to wavedash or waveland on a platform into a preferably fast falled bair for edgeguarding. I would assume most applications involve the edge, but you keep us posted!
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Not only is bair faster, it hits lower, which means short characters like Fox won't be ducking under it as easily.
Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
My fox is ass
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
What?? Really? You probably don't spam enough gay moves with Fox like u-tilt. 
Upke
Smash Journeyman
Gay moves? Like shine? And up-smash? And up-air?
RockinRudy
Smash Journeyman
Posting threads. The peoplez are mad. I suck at life.
Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
My friend says I need to okay more scumbag fox, but I just like doing technical things and cool combos
+ my grab game sucks
+ my grab game sucks
Krynxe
I can't pronounce it either
Being technical is fine, as long as you're smart about it
I'd need an example of you playing to properly assess, but just keeping the basics in mind always helps when playing fox. That's why unknown is my favorite fox player
I'd need an example of you playing to properly assess, but just keeping the basics in mind always helps when playing fox. That's why unknown is my favorite fox player
Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
Only recent video I have haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzwP-y5Aymc&sns=em
Didn't play too amazingly, killed myself a few times, but not a bad representation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzwP-y5Aymc&sns=em
Didn't play too amazingly, killed myself a few times, but not a bad representation
I looked at the frame data, and the thing we were talking about before is the turn-jump threshold. Zelda's turn-jump threshold is 11 frames. Most other characters I checked had one that was around 20 frames. So I'm pretty sure this means Zelda can jump on frame 11 or later of the turnaround animation and be facing the opposite direction.
Another application I thought of, aside from edge hogging, was jump-cancel grabbing during the turnaround animation. It's pretty much just a turnaround grab from a full run. It's not terribly fast, and you have to be running away from who you want to grab at the time so it's rather situational. It does make use of Zelda's jump cancel grab, though, which is something I have always neglected.
Another application I thought of, aside from edge hogging, was jump-cancel grabbing during the turnaround animation. It's pretty much just a turnaround grab from a full run. It's not terribly fast, and you have to be running away from who you want to grab at the time so it's rather situational. It does make use of Zelda's jump cancel grab, though, which is something I have always neglected.
Upke
Smash Journeyman
So does dash grab not work after the turnaround?
You can dash grab after the turnaround, but the full turnaround takes 23 frames.
You can interrupt the turnaround animation with a jump after 11 frames, so it's quicker to do the jump cancelled grab.
AppleAppleAZ
Smash Journeyman
So I totally went for a Zelda/Marth team vs Shroomed and Fly Amanita at KoC2 this weekend.
They went double Sheik...
Never again.
They went double Sheik...
Never again.
Griffard
Smash Ace
Alright so I want to be the best Zelda of all time.
What essential videos must I study? Is it worth trying at all?
What essential videos must I study? Is it worth trying at all?
AppleAppleAZ
Smash Journeyman
Cosmo and TheLake are both good Zelda mains you should watch.
Mew2king goes zelda when he wants to disrespect people
As far as videos go, both Cosmo vs Mew2king/Darkrain are pretty good, and The Lake (as DJTalent) vs Axe are vids that come to mind off the top of my head.
for the Lolz and disrespect you should look up Mew2king vs Moose.
Upke
Smash Journeyman
ARmada's Zelda shows how to go ****ing deeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SigTEZulrO4
And how dash attack is superior to lasers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SigTEZulrO4
And how dash attack is superior to lasers.
Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
Not really
Just good player factor
He didn't do anything special or crazy
Just good player factor
He didn't do anything special or crazy
Upke
Smash Journeyman
No, he's just doing it right.
Soloist
Smash Ace
Ever since Cosmo quit playing I quit playing this character.
Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
No, he's just that much better.
I've probably watched this and the other Zeldarmada video dozens of times. They're great.ARmada's Zelda shows how to go ****ing deeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SigTEZulrO4
And how dash attack is superior to lasers.
GKInfinity
Smash Champion
What's up my zelda brethren
Upke
Smash Journeyman
"you can't hit tipper fair or bair in 2013"
It's all about set ups and baits. Mostly baits because Zelda is slow.
It's all about set ups and baits. Mostly baits because Zelda is slow.
ZIngaZ
Smash Cadet
Have you guys played with Project M zelda? She's basically everything you wanted in melee Zelda its pretty great
Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
I like the sdremix Zelda better than pm Zelda
AppleAppleAZ
Smash Journeyman
Melee Zelda >>> PM Zelda
*Minus the Up B explosion. That shiz is SUPER dope.
*Minus the Up B explosion. That shiz is SUPER dope.
Upke
Smash Journeyman
I feel you, brother. TP Zelda looks super neat.
I'm guessing you mean by your favored design? Because P:M Zelda is obviously more viable.
AppleAppleAZ
Smash Journeyman
Ya, I just prefer Melee Zelda because I'm more used to how she feels. PM Zelda is way better as far as design though.
Double Helix
Smash Journeyman
I am not a Zelda main, but I always make the joke that Zelda should be higher on the tier list. Her down-B is amazing.
GKInfinity
Smash Champion
The down B joke has existed since the beginning of time. I heard it from at least 3 different people while playing them in tournament about 2 weeks ago.
Double Helix
Smash Journeyman
Sorry...I just joined the community a year ago. Kit-kat bar please. Or...a piece of it at least.
GKInfinity
Smash Champion
Haha yeah, no big. It's just one of those things.
If you walk around solving a rubiks cube you're bound to run into 100 people who either say "I'd just break it apart and put it back together" or "If I had to solve it I'd just peel the stickers off". It's meant as one of those well intentioned jokes to keep the conversation going, but once you've heard them enough times it loses all appeal.
If you walk around solving a rubiks cube you're bound to run into 100 people who either say "I'd just break it apart and put it back together" or "If I had to solve it I'd just peel the stickers off". It's meant as one of those well intentioned jokes to keep the conversation going, but once you've heard them enough times it loses all appeal.