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I'd rather have Shulk than Lucas, but I'd rather have Ness than both.
Look, I'm a man of no cuts. And I think that Lucas still has no reason to be cut. Snake, possible legal issues. Ice Climbers, technical problems. But I don't see a reason for Lucas.

Someone hasn't played Xenoblade. :p
Does it matter if I did?
 
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Look, I'm a man of no cuts. And I think that Lucas still has no reason to be cut. Snake, possible legal issues. Ice Climbers, technical problems. But I don't see a reason for Lucas.
Lucas and Wolf don't have any real reason to be cut, I'll give you that.
 

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Does it matter if I did?
If nobody liked Xenoblade, than Shulk wouldn't even be considered for Smash Bros. Shulk is a great character with moveset potential, If you invest time into a game you become attached to the characters, and want to see more of them.

I do love Lucas, I've played Mother 3 and thought it was amazing. But I would rather a new character than a clone, and by what we've supposedly seen of Ganondorf, clones are not getting moveset changes.
 
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Hold on a second...

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Why is Lucina completely stationary?
Where's her victory pose?
You're not the only one that's noticed that, and as of now, we have no answer. In Brawl, victory poses are chopped up into 2 animations; the pose itself, and the "wait" afterward, which loops infinitely. My guess is that only the player who scored the most points does their victory pose (and gets their theme and icon and all that) while the camera zooms onto them, and the other teammates go straight to their "wait" pose. It's kind of sad that if this surmise is correct though, that the cool team victory poses of the past (Fox and Falco both doing the "MISSION COMPLETE" pose) are no more.

If nobody liked Xenoblade, than Shulk wouldn't even be considered for Smash Bros. Shulk is a great character with moveset potential, If you invest time into a game you become attached to the characters, and want to see more of them.

I do love Lucas, I've played Mother 3 and thought it was amazing. But I would rather a new character than a clone, and by what we've supposedly seen of Ganondorf, clones are not getting moveset changes.
Lucas isn't a clone though.
 
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If nobody liked Xenoblade, than Shulk wouldn't even be considered for Smash Bros. Shulk is a great character with moveset potential, If you invest time into a game you become attached to the characters, and want to see more of them.
Once again, I don't see your point. Just because I play a game or not doesn't necessarily mean I'll like a characters and would be glad if they replaced someone. I could just as easily play the game all the way through and still not think Shulk is a decent addition (and over a popular veteran for Christ's sake) then not play it and like the character.

For example, I haven't played Pikmin or F-Zero, and yet somehow I still like Olimar and Captain Falcon.

I do love Lucas, I've played Mother 3 and thought it was amazing. But I would rather a new character than a clone, and by what we've supposedly seen of Ganondorf, clones are not getting moveset changes.
One, Lucas is a semi-clone at best.
Two, if it was due to a "clone" status, then how did Toon Link get in? Heck, what about Lucina? Or Dr. Mario? Or Dark Pit? Characters that are actual clones (at least to our knowledge), and somehow they got in. So that's not it.
 

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Started making a Gif on Flipnote Studio on my 30 minute break at work today. These are the results so far.
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Everyone chill. The game isn't out yet. We don't know the full roster yet. DLC is real.
 

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if it was due to a "clone" status, then how did Toon Link get in? Heck, what about Lucina? Or Dr. Mario? Or Dark Pit? Characters that are actual clones (at least to our knowledge), and somehow they got in. So that's not it.
I was giving my own personal opinion there, not a logical one. :ohwell:
 

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There is no reason to believe DLC at this point
I guess you're right. Especially since Sakurai hasn't really said anything about wanting DLC but that he'll do it if he needs it. Or something like that. But Sakurai is a compulsive liar.
 
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Lucas is already impersonating OTHER Mother characters

why not Ness
Correction; Lucas does not act as Ness or disguise himself as Ness in Mother 3. (Lucina disguises herself as Marth, which is why she was considered as an alternate)
 

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I have a feeling if Lucas is indeed going to be cut I have more of a feeling it's more of a - 'We're reducing the mother series characters which of the two do we not go with?' I doubt Shulk or any newcomer would have really anything to do with that.
 
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Correction; Lucas does not act as Ness or disguise himself as Ness in Mother 3. (Lucina disguises herself as Marth, which is why she was considered as an alternate)
So what?

X isn't zero but he gets an alternate costume of him (in Marvel vs Capcom)

Metal Sonic isn't Sonic but he gets a costume of him in a Sonic game

Blood Falcon isn't Captain Falcon, but gets an alt in melee that's accurate

Daisy isn't Peach but gets an alt in melee that's accurate

Dark Link isn't Link but gets an alt in Brawl
 
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"Pikachu's alternate Down B's are "Self-Generation" and "Great Thunder". One that can be used as a close combat attack without worries of something getting in the thunder's way and the other focusing on sniping out of the air."
LOL, yes, classic Thunder is back in some form. Also, Aura Sphere is still Lucario's standard special move.
 
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Not to press buttons, but that was never a thing in any previous smash games. Even on the 64 it showed both victory animations.
I'd assume it only has to do with the camera zoom in, which is not present in any of the older games.

So what?

X isn't zero but he gets an alternate costume of him (in Marvel vs Capcom)

Metal Sonic isn't Sonic but he gets a costume of him in a Sonic game

Blood Falcon isn't Captain Falcon, but gets an alt in melee that's accurate

Daisy isn't Peach but gets an alt in melee that's accurate

Dark Link isn't Link but gets an alt in Brawl
Sure, but those characters have CANON relationships to the characters. Ness and Lucas have NO RELATIONS in the Mother canon. Daisy and Blood Falcon started out as palette swaps of Peach and Captain Falcon respectively in their home series. Lucas is not a palette swap of Ness. I'd be fine with a Lucas styled palette, but you're proposing a freaking costume.
 

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Hey guyyyysss haven't been posting as much because school but I'm still around<<33333

AP is a lot of work and it's only day 3 like what the **** lmaooo, I can handle it though
 

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I'd assume it only has to do with the camera zoom in, which is not present in any of the older games.


Sure, but those characters have CANON relationships to the characters. Ness and Lucas have NO RELATIONS in the Mother canon. Daisy and Blood Falcon started out as palette swaps of Peach and Captain Falcon respectively in their home series. Lucas is not a palette swap of Ness. I'd be fine with a Lucas styled palette, but you're proposing a freaking costume.
He's looks almost exactly the same with a different hair style

Plus Mother 3 has A LOT to do with Ness
 
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Idiodic fathers that think his family stands a chance at living in Japan just for the sake of eating endless seafood. -_-
Ugh, I hope it falls through for you. They spit on the streets randomly, and your skin oils up from the pollution.The hospitals' opening times are ridiculous, and for a place supposed to be so technologically advanced, you'll have a hard time finding an ATM. I don't mean to be blunt, but if you're black, good luck. There are people who were born in Japan, but just because they have South Korean grandparents, are not considered Japanese. Not to mention the pedophilia and sexual harassment problems. Also, you get a free towel with everything, sometimes even bills, so your already cramped house could very well become consumed with the things!
 

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Not to press buttons, but that was never a thing in any previous smash games. Even on the 64 it showed both victory animations.
Yes, however those games also show both of the characters the whole time. There's no real point to having them both use their victory animations when you can't even see one of them.

He's looks almost exactly the same with a different hair style

Plus Mother 3 has A LOT to do with Ness
Aside from a couple of references, Ness has nothing to do with Mother 3.
 
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I think it only shows one member of a team in the 3DS game because it's an individual experience, the same thing happens with the on-screen appearances: the camera only focuses on the player's on-screen appearance in the 3DS game.
 
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