Smash Back Room Weekly Character Discussions! FINAL UPDATES: Ness + Lucas. All done!!

[Nurotasama]

It's defo Wolf. They're doing him again!

 

[mirkdddlhppr]

This definitely seems to point at Toon Link and Zelda, because of their great ability both at long range and short, and also they have an advantage over DeDeDe...

It also seems to point at Pit, but (correct me if I'm wrong)...doesn't he have an even matchup against DeDeDe?

Toon Link is one of the fastest characters in the game, but...hmm... :D

 

[Annhialator Zero]

TL definitely

 

[Doggalina]

Olimar has a great game against DDD, but Pit and TLink also fit the hint.

 

[Miller]

Im gunna go with Pit on this one

 

[ChaoticSamus]

Well seeing as the hint states that its anyone with a good close range game. That could be anyone. But when he says great long range game as well it has to be someone with projectiles. It could be Zelda but then again she has only one projectile meaning she doesnt have the realoly great long range game. TL has 3 projectiles meaning that it could be him. Pit only has his arrows and those are easily defeated. I'm gonna have to say here that its TL.

 

[Terios the Hedgehog]

Well seeing as the hint states that its anyone with a good close range game. That could be anyone. But when he says great long range game as well it has to be someone with projectiles. It could be Zelda but then again she has only one projectile meaning she doesnt have the realoly great long range game. TL has 3 projectiles meaning that it could be him. Pit only has his arrows and those are easily defeated. I'm gonna have to say here that its TL.

To be fair it says a great long range GAME not Great Projectiles. Pit's Mirror Shield and a spammable projectile = great long range game.

 

[BigRick]

Pit or Zelda or TLink

 

[Surri-Sama]

ill go Zelda, Dins fire is a great ranged attack, and she has a reflector so...,she is a brawlers, with fast attacks and very easy KO moves..

 

[JJR.O.B.]

Im thinking it is TL because one of Overswarm's seconds is TL and it said they used one of overswarms posts

 

[Deleted member]

Besides the D3 comment, it sounds like yoshi, but ima say TL.

 

[Godhand_Soup]

TL, Zelda or Olimar.

 

[kongfucius]

Olimar destroys D3...so it will most likely be him. But yes, Zelda is likely too.

 

[blink777]

I don't think it's Zelda because of the wording on the character's KO ability. "Surprisingly decent" just doesn't seem to fit with her, as she was always described as having great knockback--especially in comparison to Sheik--even before the game came out. Even in Melee, she was meant to be a powerful hitter (even though the devs ended up gimping out on her).

Was anyone really surprised at her being able to KO at comparitively low percents? The only surprises we had with her knockback wouldn't be called "decent" either--fair/bair/uair/etc killing at some ridiculous percents.

 

[Ban3]

10 olimars?

 

[wWw Dazwa]

next is going to be heath ledger

Close. It's actually Christian Bale.

 

[cutter]

Feels like it should be either Pit or Toon Link since they both have good close range game with their swords and have excellent projectiles. They were both hyped up to the max shortly after launch date, but both have been very sparse in tournament play.

Then again, Olimar perfectly fits the bill as well...

 

[tedward2000]

yea...Im going to sit this one out.
I dont want to lose anymore bets.
-t2

 

[Banjodorf]

I'm going to guess Olimar or Zelda, although I'm not too sure Olimar's been doing badly in tourneys (Or has he?)

 

[Monshou_no_Nazo]

It's so obvious that it's Toon Link. Everyone thought he was top tier or at least high tier when the game came out, but from what I've heard, and what Ankoku's ranking show, Toon Link has actually been doing pretty terrible in tournaments for some reason.

 

[wasabicheese]

Tlink i think

 

[Mr Mattastic]

um... Pit?

 

[Doctor X]

Toon Link is my guess.

 

[biohazard930]

First, it's not Olimar. He's like, 6th in Ankoku's thread.
Second, "great long range game" means what it says. Thus, it doesn't necessarily mean projectiles.

That said, my list (in order of probability) is
1. Toon Link
2. Zelda
3. Zamus
4. Pikachu

All four characters are ranked "E" in Ankoku's thread, and all four have a check in the matchup chart. However, I'm not the best at judging things. So there's my disclaimer. My issues with the bottom three are as follows: I'm not sure if people are surprised that Zelda and Pikachu pack some power. Also, I'm not too sure Pikachu's moveset is as situational as the clue implies. Then, I'm not sure that Zamus has enough K.O. power to be "surprisingly decent." (I'm not familiar.) If she does, though, she would fit that perfectly....

 

[litlwing]

lucario maybe? or has he done better then i think ive lost track of things

 

[Icy_Eagle]

There's no way that this is Zelda, that's for sure. Surprisingly good at KOing? Only moves she can't kill with are jab, dtilt, nair, N's love, F's wind, throws and downb (lol). Her Din's fire honestly isn't that amazing due to ease of dodging it.

I think it's either toon link or pit, leaning towards tlink. They both have great projectile game but have been placing surprisingly low

edit: checked ankoku's thread. Pit isn't really doing so bad. >_>

 

[Tokerella]

money on tink

 

[ZMan]

I'm thinking Lucas, Toon Link, or Zamus.

Or I'm totally wrong.

 

[Adapt]

First, it's not Olimar. He's like, 6th in Ankoku's thread.
Second, "great long range game" means what it says. Thus, it doesn't necessarily mean projectiles.

That said, my list (in order of probability) is
1. Toon Link
2. Zelda
3. Zamus
4. Pikachu

The thing I have against it being Zamus is that her game close up isn't all that great... her utilt and dtilt are great, but her ftilt is average, her jab is terrible, and nothing else is really a shortrange attack.

Also, Zelda's KO potential is not surprising at all, and Pikachu has been doing quite well in tourneys (up until the last couple weeks)

What did you have against Pit?

 

[Linkplayer5678]

It's Ike.

10chars

 

[Aminar]

It's gotta be Olimar. He fit's everything perfectly. It's not Pit, he's not that situayional, and they would have mentionedhis number of character specific tech's. And his recovery.

 

[JhMS]

This is way harder than the last one(lol Ike xD).
I guess Toon Link.Im not really sure,but it seems right.Im going to look at Ankokus thread for more information.

 

[Popertop]

I'd say Pikachu.
The only Pika I've seen doing well is Anther, and he has to work hard in a couple different problem matchups.
I won't say olimar because he said, "Only a few flaws" and not a glaring weakness like his recovery problem.

 

[solidpit]

It's probably going to be someone nobody expected but I'm going with Toon Link.

 

[Sh1n0b1]

Sounds like Toon Link. His tourney results are awful.

 

[ice_cream_man]

Toon Link. Does pit or olimar really have that great of a close-up game?

 

[gunterrsmash01]

I'm going for Toon Link.

it could also be kirby or lucas.

 

[betterthanbonds9]

Strong at close range with a great long range game and a surprisingly decent ability to KO, this character has had a lot of potential since Brawl was first released. But what happened? It seems like this character hasn't been holding up in tournaments, with a few exceptions, despite having only very few faults. Perhaps its because much of this character's strong points are situational, and very match-up dependent. This character has a few strong match-ups (watch out DeDeDe), but has to work hard to keep up with some other characters.

close range strength immediatly made me think of pit (because he has **** range with his fsmash) and zelda. There are of course others, but those seem to fit the best for that part of the clue.

surprising ko ability? Ok, this doesn't necesarily get rid of zelda, some would say that her ability to KO sub 100% in itself surprising. But it does open it up to many more characters.

the developers of SSBB initially said someting on the lines of "MK is good now, but in depth Pit is better." I remember that being said constantly post E4All. But Olimar and TL fit really well into that too.

ok, now we need a character that does poorly, but has a "few" wins. Pit is a B rank in both of ankoku's rankings so he's out. Olimar is a C and A rank in Ankoku's old/new rankings respectively, so he's also out. TL and zelda also used to be in the C rank, but are now in the E rank, so I believe they are both still possible.

This is where i think it fits zelda all the way, bigger characters like DDD, bowser, and DK just keep getting kicked in the face, while smaller characters like G&W, kirby, and olimar are a pain in the ***. My second choice for this would be Pikachu followed by TL.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

i am just going to guess zelda

 

[Dpete]

I'm going for Toon Link.

it could also be kirby or lucas.

I would agree with Toon Link, but I don't think Kirby has "a great long range game."