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Link to original post: [drupal=5522]Snake and Sonic: Will they return?[/drupal]
A topic which has not reached a concrete solution so far in Smash Bros. 4 speculation, is whether or not Solid Snake, creation of Hideo Kojima (who is a close friend to Masahiro Sakurai), and Sonic the hedgehog (longtime rival to Mario and video game icon) will return to the next edition of Super Smash Bros. Many believe they will not, simply based on the fact that many other fighters, such as Soul Caliber, do not retain the 3rd party additions after they appear once. However, comparing Super Smash Bros., which is a crossover fighting game to the type of fighter that Soul Caliber or other games like it, isn't a fair comparison. There are a few reasons why.
Super Smash Bros. is a Nintendo Crossover game, created by a first party company. The first time 3rd party characters were included was in Brawl, which is only the 3rd edition in the series. Also, remember that according to some, that brawl was meant to be the last game in the series. Could this be why Snake and Sonic were included? I don't think anyone could know that besides the developers of the game. Also mind you, that Snake and Sonic both got in for reasons that were different from what other 3rd party additions get into other games.
Snake was included as a favor between good friends. Sonic was included because of fan clamoring and request. Soul Caliber, which has a tendency to have a guest character each game, is not likely to adhere to either of the previously stated. Soul Caliber is also made by a 3rd party company, and isn't a crossover game like Super Smash Bros. is. It's a third party game including a first party character (Link in Soul Caliber 2), or a 3rd party company including other 3rd party characters (Yoda and Darth Vader in Soul Caliber 4, and Ezio in Sould Caliber 5). Another example could be Kratos in Mortal Kombat. Kratos was essentially included as a promotion of God Of War 3 if I remember correctly. Surely he was just a guest character as Link was in Soul Caliber. Fans were not exactly speculating or requestion either of those two to be in. Again, Soul Caliber is NOT a crossover title, whereas Smash Bros. is, and a mostly first party title at that. However, there is a game that was recently released, being a direct competitior to Super Smash Bros.
Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale is Sony's version ( a cheap knockoff at that) of Super Smash Bros. It contains mostly first party characters, with FOUR 3rd party characters. The roster totals out at 20 characters initially, with other characters and stages soon to come as DLC. The roster for Super Smash Bros. is at over 30, with only TWO third party characters. Not that this particularly matters, but think of it this way. If 1/5 of the roster is third party characters, how likely is it that they will be replaced in the sequel, assuming that there is one? Also, the characters that were included (Heihachi from the Tekken series, Raiden form Metal Gear Rising, Dante from Devil May Cry, and Big Daddy from Bioshock do show a sort of relevance to Playstation. So what need is there to cut them, espcially when the fact that they are 3rd party wasn't a big deal to most fans i've read comments from? They're just excited for them to be included.
I mean sure, maybe Solid Snake doesn't have a huge connection to Nintendo, but his inclusion in Smash Bros. was appreciated and welcomed. Sonic has relevance to Nintendo's history, and he was quite obviously the most requested character for Brawl. There really is no need to remove either of these two characters from the game. They are popular choices, and surely their inclusion in a game full of first party characters wouldn't be as big a deal as some make it out to be. From what i have typed here in this blog, I really don't see Sonic and Snake as a clear cut and dry decision. I can't bring you an example of a time when 3rd party characters stayed really, but that doesn't mean it can't happen, especially when Smash Bros has become what it is now.
I like to think of the characters included in Super Smash Bros. as a series a sort of brotherhood. Once you are involved in this game, you are a fellow 'Smash Brother'. (Well besides Pichu. **** Pichu). If Sonic and Snake were warmly welcomed, then I say let our Smash Brothers stay.
Thanks for reading!
A topic which has not reached a concrete solution so far in Smash Bros. 4 speculation, is whether or not Solid Snake, creation of Hideo Kojima (who is a close friend to Masahiro Sakurai), and Sonic the hedgehog (longtime rival to Mario and video game icon) will return to the next edition of Super Smash Bros. Many believe they will not, simply based on the fact that many other fighters, such as Soul Caliber, do not retain the 3rd party additions after they appear once. However, comparing Super Smash Bros., which is a crossover fighting game to the type of fighter that Soul Caliber or other games like it, isn't a fair comparison. There are a few reasons why.
Super Smash Bros. is a Nintendo Crossover game, created by a first party company. The first time 3rd party characters were included was in Brawl, which is only the 3rd edition in the series. Also, remember that according to some, that brawl was meant to be the last game in the series. Could this be why Snake and Sonic were included? I don't think anyone could know that besides the developers of the game. Also mind you, that Snake and Sonic both got in for reasons that were different from what other 3rd party additions get into other games.
Snake was included as a favor between good friends. Sonic was included because of fan clamoring and request. Soul Caliber, which has a tendency to have a guest character each game, is not likely to adhere to either of the previously stated. Soul Caliber is also made by a 3rd party company, and isn't a crossover game like Super Smash Bros. is. It's a third party game including a first party character (Link in Soul Caliber 2), or a 3rd party company including other 3rd party characters (Yoda and Darth Vader in Soul Caliber 4, and Ezio in Sould Caliber 5). Another example could be Kratos in Mortal Kombat. Kratos was essentially included as a promotion of God Of War 3 if I remember correctly. Surely he was just a guest character as Link was in Soul Caliber. Fans were not exactly speculating or requestion either of those two to be in. Again, Soul Caliber is NOT a crossover title, whereas Smash Bros. is, and a mostly first party title at that. However, there is a game that was recently released, being a direct competitior to Super Smash Bros.
Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale is Sony's version ( a cheap knockoff at that) of Super Smash Bros. It contains mostly first party characters, with FOUR 3rd party characters. The roster totals out at 20 characters initially, with other characters and stages soon to come as DLC. The roster for Super Smash Bros. is at over 30, with only TWO third party characters. Not that this particularly matters, but think of it this way. If 1/5 of the roster is third party characters, how likely is it that they will be replaced in the sequel, assuming that there is one? Also, the characters that were included (Heihachi from the Tekken series, Raiden form Metal Gear Rising, Dante from Devil May Cry, and Big Daddy from Bioshock do show a sort of relevance to Playstation. So what need is there to cut them, espcially when the fact that they are 3rd party wasn't a big deal to most fans i've read comments from? They're just excited for them to be included.
I mean sure, maybe Solid Snake doesn't have a huge connection to Nintendo, but his inclusion in Smash Bros. was appreciated and welcomed. Sonic has relevance to Nintendo's history, and he was quite obviously the most requested character for Brawl. There really is no need to remove either of these two characters from the game. They are popular choices, and surely their inclusion in a game full of first party characters wouldn't be as big a deal as some make it out to be. From what i have typed here in this blog, I really don't see Sonic and Snake as a clear cut and dry decision. I can't bring you an example of a time when 3rd party characters stayed really, but that doesn't mean it can't happen, especially when Smash Bros has become what it is now.
I like to think of the characters included in Super Smash Bros. as a series a sort of brotherhood. Once you are involved in this game, you are a fellow 'Smash Brother'. (Well besides Pichu. **** Pichu). If Sonic and Snake were warmly welcomed, then I say let our Smash Brothers stay.
Thanks for reading!