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Spear Pillar Secret Pokémon + Effects on Stage & Music!

~Mii~

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Guys, Darkrai and Shaymin can't be there, Pokeballed, they are.
Arceus Can't either, he has not been "officially" confirmed by nintendo, hackers found him.
I hope Giratina though.
And Heatran goes with Cress., So I hope he's there.
Oh, and Regigigas. Awesome

Pokemon Nerd i am
 

Patinator

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@ ~Mii~: Well, neither has Shaymin, and he's a Poke Ball. Darkrai wasn't revealed in the U.S. at Whobby '08 when he was "revealed". :/

EDIT: And Regigigas is a Poke Ball too. I was hoping for Boss. Either him or Darkrai/Mewtwo. :ohwell:
 

SilentDrifterZ

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Darkrai and Shaymin were removed, supposedly

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=138986
That is lame. I guess it'll be the same case for the translated versions. But I think that's silly. They let Roy and Marth show up in the translated version when no one in the general public had a clue what Fire Emblem was outside of Japan.

I would've thought it'd be cool if Shaymin and Darkrai were in the game, kind of like...a debut of sorts to get the "hype" going for those who don't know about them.
 

DreamFiend633

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Wild Pokemon Battle (RS) and Stadium/Evolution are heard on Pokemon Stadium 2. NOT Spear Pillar. This was confirmed on the DOJO!! months ago.
 

RoxasXIII

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Wild Pokemon Battle (RS) and Stadium/Evolution are heard on Pokemon Stadium 2. NOT Spear Pillar. This was confirmed on the DOJO!! months ago.
You're right, the Dojo!! does say it plays on the Pokémon Stadium 2 stage. "This is the song for Pokémon Stadium."

However, nothing on the Dojo!! states or even implies that Pokémon Stadium/Evolution only plays on the Pokémon Staium 2 stage.
 

DreamFiend633

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You're right, the Dojo!! does say it plays on the Pokémon Stadium 2 stage. "This is the song for Pokémon Stadium."

However, nothing on the Dojo!! states or even implies that Pokémon Stadium/Evolution only plays on the Pokémon Staium 2 stage.
So, wait, it plays on both stages? Kinda cool I guess. Still kinda mad that Sonic got more music than a lot of other Nintendo franchises including Pokemon. I really wanted to see the Kanto Pokemon Trainer theme. Oh well. Am I the only one who thinks the background Pokemon on Spear Pillar look like they're cartoony? Another thing that disappoints me is that it's night time on Spear Pillar, and the cave underneath. Still looks fun though.
 

RoxasXIII

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So, wait, it plays on both stages? Kinda cool I guess. Still kinda mad that Sonic got more music than a lot of other Nintendo franchises including Pokemon. I really wanted to see the Kanto Pokemon Trainer theme. Oh well. Am I the only one who thinks the background Pokemon on Spear Pillar look like they're cartoony? Another thing that disappoints me is that it's night time on Spear Pillar, and the cave underneath. Still looks fun though.
Yeah, I know. I recall the Spear Pillar being in a snowing climate, but you can't always look at things as logical as possible. I mean, Olimar is definitely not as big as they made him. Some things just have to change so that they work with the rest of the game. But I understand where you're coming from. I feel that they could've put in some more music from, uh, I don't know, "BATTLES?" The Route 209 music definitely doesn't fit, and neither does Route 1 / Viridian City, and neither does the Pokemon Center music. I would've liked the music at the Casino in Diamond and Pearl, it's so catchy amd upbeat!
 

LamerFlamer

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I heard Arceus appears on Spear Pillar from time to time...Is this true?

I heard it was VERY RARE.
 

Mr. Game and Pichu

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But I understand where you're coming from. I feel that they could've put in some more music from, uh, I don't know, "BATTLES?" The Route 209 music definitely doesn't fit, and neither does Route 1 / Viridian City, and neither does the Pokemon Center music. I would've liked the music at the Casino in Diamond and Pearl, it's so catchy amd upbeat!
I know they really should put in the Champion Cynthia Battle Music. Which rocked. But at least we got the PKMN Main Theme, Team Galactic (One of my predictions) Music and Palkia/Dialga Battle Music. And wait: Arceus is supposed to appear??? Who said that? And i never caught Cresselia in my Pearl so is Cresselia THAT tiny???
 

RoxasXIII

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I know they really should put in the Champion Cynthia Battle Music. Which rocked. But at least we got the PKMN Main Theme, Team Galactic (One of my predictions) Music and Palkia/Dialga Battle Music. And wait: Arceus is supposed to appear??? Who said that? And i never caught Cresselia in my Pearl so is Cresselia THAT tiny???
The Pokedex says that Cresselia is 4'11". And Arceus does NOT appear in this stage or anywhere else for that matter unless you are a hacker or Japanese.
 

DannyMDEFactor

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Yeah, I know. I recall the Spear Pillar being in a snowing climate, but you can't always look at things as logical as possible. I mean, Olimar is definitely not as big as they made him. Some things just have to change so that they work with the rest of the game. But I understand where you're coming from. I feel that they could've put in some more music from, uh, I don't know, "BATTLES?" The Route 209 music definitely doesn't fit, and neither does Route 1 / Viridian City, and neither does the Pokemon Center music. I would've liked the music at the Casino in Diamond and Pearl, it's so catchy amd upbeat!
I agree with you except that Spear Pillar is in a snowing climate until you reach it's highest point, where you battle Team Galactic's Boss and Palkia/Dialga.
 

lumberheartwood

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I was surprised but glad Cresselia appears. She's one of my favorite pokemon of the new generation. If she's hear, it probably does mean she might be the guardian of the Lake Trio.

What I am surprised about is that they totally skipped the 3 Regi's + their leader Regigigas (in terms of pokeballs because they haven't been spoken of or seen in any youtube videos).

I do hope Giratina appears but its moves are mainly physical so that's really not looking good. Also, due to the confirmation of Giratina's new "Origin" form, I don't think Nintendo would want to spoil talking about it further more, but they did let Deoxys in this game so yep. In the air for right now. Darkrai would be cool too, but its a physical sweeper and all it would do would probably be Dark Hall so I don't see here as a stage gimmick but more of a pokeball character too.

I would love to see Heatran here do Magma Storm, but it would make the Spear Pillar seem a lot like Norfair and I just don't like that stage or its previous incarnations. Heatran is pretty much useless since it doesn't seem to have much of a purpose beside being an overlooked legendary as of now. But it would be cool.

Arceus is cool too, definitely worth seeing, but I don't think Nintendo would spoil its "God" of all pokemon. I can imagine it being unlocked via Action Replay but as of being a normal sight, yep, don't see that happening. If anyone finds footage of it, please post it here right away.

Due to all of its gimmicks, that are good actually, except Cresselia kind of being annoying in heated brawls, the stage looks cool to play on and the gimmicks give a warning before they happen too. Really nice. Also, I like that there is a bottom level to play on and it sounds fun to play at. But if people consider that cheating, all they have to do is destroy the ceiling above it, or the main platform, and we have a prefectly usable and seemingly legal stage. Hip hip hooray. I can't wait to play on this stage all the time!! :D
 

RoxasXIII

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I agree with you except that Spear Pillar is in a snowing climate until you reach it's highest point, where you battle Team Galactic's Boss and Palkia/Dialga.
I know. I was just trying to prove a point. But then again the stage is dark, whereas the actual Spear Pillar is actually bright. :)
 

vCannino93

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I think cresselia's first attack is sonicboom, because it looks as if a move called 'sonicboom' would, and it does exactly 20 damage.
 

RoxasXIII

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I think cresselia's first attack is sonicboom, because it looks as if a move called 'sonicboom' would, and it does exactly 20 damage.
Ha. Nice. But I'll counter your Pokémon knowledge with some of my own. Cresselia has no way of learning Sonicboom. :)
 

Bensei

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They don't have videos. I heard there were just some mistaking one for another by watching low-quality vids, as Roelia was mistaken with Guardevoir

Maybe Arceus will appear there anytime in the future? I know, DLC won't be in Brawl, but if they had included it in the game but turned it off because Arceus isn't available yet, the only thing you'd need are four KB of an update that tell you to turn that feature on
 

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Ha. Nice. But I'll counter your Pokémon knowledge with some of my own. Cresselia has no way of learning Sonicboom. :)
Pikachu used Thunder JOLT. It's super effect- No, wait... ;)

I don't know what it looks like, but I'm hoping Psycho Cut.


The SmashWiki says "Arceus appears on Spear Pillar, using Judgement, instantly KOing anyone on the top platform." Good news.
 

Bensei

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If Arceus is on the stage it would stop that stupid rumour with Shaymin being cut due to not being released yet (Arceus isn't even confirmed oficially after the Brawl release while Shaymin is)
 

Rikka

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There's literally no proof at all Arceus shows up, and anyone who mentions it is someone who doesn't own the game. It's just a rumor.

And did we actually ever see proof that Darkrai and Shaymin were in the demos? It could be like Duster and Sothe and those other ATs. We only had word of mouth to rely on, and it was probably fake.
 

RoxasXIII

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Pikachu used Thunder JOLT. It's super effect- No, wait... ;)

I don't know what it looks like, but I'm hoping Psycho Cut.


The SmashWiki says "Arceus appears on Spear Pillar, using Judgement, instantly KOing anyone on the top platform." Good news.

First of all: BS.

Second of all: Anything that was spawned from Wikipedia can be edited by pretty much anyone and everyone.

Third of all: Click on the link I've given to see Cresselia in action.

Fourth of all: Uh, no, that's pretty much it.

:)
 

RoxasXIII

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There's literally no proof at all Arceus shows up, and anyone who mentions it is someone who doesn't own the game. It's just a rumor.

And did we actually ever see proof that Darkrai and Shaymin were in the demos? It could be like Duster and Sothe and those other ATs. We only had word of mouth to rely on, and it was probably fake.
Thank you! :)
 

RoxasXIII

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I hope Arseus and darkria are on, but I'm not beleiving anything untill I see a video, because I saw a screenshot of darkria on there, but it looked suspiciously like the Battle Revolution pose
May I see this screenshot? :laugh:
 

Patinator

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Arceus has since been deleted from the Smash Wiki, since there was no source. :p I doubt it'd be on the stage anyway. Darkrai too. I mean, it was revealed back in July, and here today, but the stages were probably developed before both. T_T
 
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The proof that Darkrai isn't in the game is that its trophy isn't grouped with the other Pokémon that appear on Spear Pillar.

The proof that Arceus isn't in the game is that it has no trophy at all.

Let that end any more absurd tales of these Pokémon showing up anywhere.
 

Kricu

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proof accepted but it still would've been sweet for arceus to appear and mess with the stage. darkrai i could care less about even though he is a cool pokemon. regardless of the pokemon that appear, the stage looks pretty cool
 
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