I was playing around in training mode today, practicing fsmash hydros, reverse fsmash hydros and glide tossing bananas.
Its widely know that you can do a fsmash while holding an item. For those who don't know..
Hold A down when you pick it up and keep it there, input an fsmash with the c-stick and it will start to charge. Let go of A as you normally would for a charged smash, and you'll still be holding the item.
Again, for those who don't know, a REVERSE fsmash hydroplane is similar input to the hydro dsmash.
Run, pivot and as soon as squirtle goes into his shell, input c-stick in the opposite direction and Z/A at the same time. As long as you hold Z/A you'll slide, let go to fsmash and it will cancel your momentum.
I.e.
Squirtle slides left a loooong way, and the smash goes right.
Mindgames galore. I use it for kills nowadays, as it makes fsmash viable.
Now, I also discovered that during the dash pivot animation, you can input A and it won't dash attack or jab. While holding an item this means you can hold A down without having to do such from the initial pickup. After learning this, I tried my reverse hydro fsmash. Squirtle slid the entire distance of smashville, let out a fsmash, with a banana still in hand. Same effect occurs when doing a regular fsmash hydro, but it is harder to do, and not as effective.
For me, this changes the Diddy matchup a lot more in Squirtles favour. I want to show video proof but I lack the tools. Feel free to test it out yourself. I dunno if it has been discovered, thus the "?" in the title. If not, discuss.
So I may have found a "Reverse Fsmash Hydroplane Item Hold" lol. A shorter name may be in order... like Itemplane.
Its widely know that you can do a fsmash while holding an item. For those who don't know..
Hold A down when you pick it up and keep it there, input an fsmash with the c-stick and it will start to charge. Let go of A as you normally would for a charged smash, and you'll still be holding the item.
Again, for those who don't know, a REVERSE fsmash hydroplane is similar input to the hydro dsmash.
Run, pivot and as soon as squirtle goes into his shell, input c-stick in the opposite direction and Z/A at the same time. As long as you hold Z/A you'll slide, let go to fsmash and it will cancel your momentum.
I.e.
Squirtle slides left a loooong way, and the smash goes right.
Mindgames galore. I use it for kills nowadays, as it makes fsmash viable.
Now, I also discovered that during the dash pivot animation, you can input A and it won't dash attack or jab. While holding an item this means you can hold A down without having to do such from the initial pickup. After learning this, I tried my reverse hydro fsmash. Squirtle slid the entire distance of smashville, let out a fsmash, with a banana still in hand. Same effect occurs when doing a regular fsmash hydro, but it is harder to do, and not as effective.
For me, this changes the Diddy matchup a lot more in Squirtles favour. I want to show video proof but I lack the tools. Feel free to test it out yourself. I dunno if it has been discovered, thus the "?" in the title. If not, discuss.
So I may have found a "Reverse Fsmash Hydroplane Item Hold" lol. A shorter name may be in order... like Itemplane.