Stage Spiking... Learn it.

[pyrnight]

When a character is below the edge on certain stages such as Final Desination, even at low percents you can up+b to bounce them off the side of the stage, which spikes. Its very useful, it can gimp, and at higher percents is ridiculously hard to tech.

Learn to use it well and your marth will be better.

 

[sblkbrn]

Not 100% perfect though so dont rely on it working every time

 

[pyrnight]

Up+b has invincibility frames, and you shouldnt' miss the edge, and you get invincibility frames when you grab the edge, theres really no down side.

 

[Megavitamins]

Invincability is spelled with a V, not an F. And, it's not really worth using, unless both of you are trying to recover. Fair gimping is alot safer IMO.

 

[Surgo]

Sure there's a downside. If they're on the ball, they'll just tech the hit.

 

[pyrnight]

Invincability is spelled with a V, not an F. And, it's not really worth using, unless both of you are trying to recover. Fair gimping is alot safer IMO.

Yeh sorry that was a typo, but its actually spelt invincibility. You failed at spelling Nazism. Fair gimping doesn't work on people who are below the stage and coming up vertically. Of course fair is better in many situations, but in many, fair is not the best option. Many times its better to up+b or bair them into the side of the stage.

Sure there's a downside. If they're on the ball, they'll just tech the hit.

Yeh, then what? You're on the edge with invincibility frames? They teched it... Oh noes?

Plus, tech timing is harder in brawl, and also VERY VERY hard off the side of the stage getting hit by Up+b.. You have like 15 frames to tech before you're already bouncing away to your death.

 

[∫unk]

Yeh sorry that was a typo, but its actually spelt invincibility. You failed at spelling Nazism. Fair gimping doesn't work on people who are below the stage and coming up vertically. Of course fair is better in many situations, but in many, fair is not the best option. Many times its better to up+b or bair them into the side of the stage.



Yeh, then what? You're on the edge with invincibility frames? They teched it... Oh noes?

Plus, tech timing is harder in brawl, and also VERY VERY hard off the side of the stage getting hit by Up+b.. You have like 15 frames to tech before you're already bouncing away to your death.

Most of my opponents learned to not go low because Marth is much better edgeguarding down there. How do you force them to go low?

 

[pyrnight]

Well, see once you've got them not going low, you can more easily predict how they are going to approach the stage, where they will be open for a fair. By exploiting the low recovery, you force them to eliminate one of their possibilities, giving you greater control.

 

[Marthmaster92]

I use this one whenever I get the chance. It's pretty easy to get them underneath the stage, really. If you're ledge hogging, that is. Example, me vs my bro's Olimar:

I'm ledge hogging, and he comes in to recover. I jump off, *since he's a bit lower than me, to try and reach the stage* then hit him with a f-air, to put him closer to the stage. Then, with a mid-air jump, I use the up+b, then they're bounced off the stage to their doom.


Not 100% reliable as a whole, but still useful to know if you're in that situation.

 

[Nica K.O]

this works pretty well against ike players who get caught trying to get back vertically....what i do i go for a fair to knock them away so they wont use there f-b to recover..then as they come back just drop down behind them and up B...even if it doesnt kill them...youll still get invincibility frames from the edgehog