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Mii most likely confirmed, then? O happy day.

Wolf is pretty expendable, yeah, given how Star Fox has basically collapsed as a series over the past five or so years. He's not much of a clone, though, so he has that going for him.
 

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So I see video game console debates and it is always Xbox one and PS4 but no one even acknowledges Wii U. Why is that? Wii was #1 in its generation.

Funny thing is I mentioned this on a blog, Wii is a lot better system for meeting girls because girls (in America at least) actually play it mainstream since they are mostly casual gamers and love Mario Kart/Wii Sports, etc. games. I am surprised Nintendo doesn't use that in advertising lol.
 

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I honestly don't think Wolf's going to stick around. Of the people currently on the hypothetical chopping block (most people argue Lucas, Lucario, Wolf, Ike, and Snake), he seems the most expendable given his moveset. We basically have two semi-clones of Fox as it stands anyways.
He has the most separation from Fox. If anyone should go it should be Falco. I'm still for Wolf getting Assault armaments.
 

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So I see video game console debates and it is always Xbox one and PS4 but no one even acknowledges Wii U. Why is that? Wii was #1 in its generation.

Funny thing is I mentioned this on a blog, Wii is a lot better system for meeting girls because girls (in America at least) actually play it mainstream since they are mostly casual gamers and love Mario Kart/Wii Sports, etc. games. I am surprised Nintendo doesn't use that in advertising lol.
"Video games: they get you laid" is an empty promise that not even Nintendo's entire PR department could fulfill. :laugh:
 

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Haha... it would be funny though.

On a serious note, why such a disdain/disrespect for Nintendo by the general gaming community?
 

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Assuming Mii gets revealed, I'm sure Sakurai will say something like "People often requested Miyamoto or Reggie as a character, so we did our best to incorporate the idea."

I hope Sakurai would look at the Mii as though it was an actual person inserted into the world of Smash. That'd be great. So many things to be both terrified and excited about for the little guy.
 

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Assuming Mii gets revealed, I'm sure Sakurai will say something like "People often requested Miyamoto or Reggie as a character, so we did our best to incorporate the idea."

I hope Sakurai would look at the Mii as though it was an actual person inserted into the world of Smash. That'd be great. So many things to be both terrified and excited about for the little guy.
I just hope that they surprise me and come up with a way for the Mii to not look godawful next to actual character models.

Also, how are they going to handle the Mii's variable size? That would seem quite difficult to account for in balance.
 

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I just hope that they surprise me and come up with a way for the Mii to not look godawful next to actual character models.

Also, how are they going to handle the Mii's variable size? That would seem quite difficult to account for in balance.
Probably the same way as Villager with one set design. Except with the Mii you might be able to change its face.
 

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So...no word on Pac-Man, Little Mac or Mii yet?

The rumor said they would be revealed at E3 right?

Could he be wrong?
 

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Also, how are they going to handle the Mii's variable size? That would seem quite difficult to account for in balance.
Most games usually don't, so I would imagine Smash wouldn't as well.

I bet they'll be dressed in their very own Smash fighting gi.

"We sent them an invitation, and they came dressed for the occasion."
 

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He has the most separation from Fox. If anyone should go it should be Falco. I'm still for Wolf getting Assault armaments.
I was arguing about this with my friends yesterday. I don't think there is ANY reason for cuts to Brawl's roster (Toon Link included). Every single character had merit and was important enough within their own franchise to be included (even Lucario). As far as cloning goes, Sakurai's sloppiness is no reason to axe characters like Wolf, who can easily be decloned. I know I'm in the minority here, but I think they should just build on top of Brawl's roster.
 

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So...no word on Pac-Man, Little Mac or Mii yet?

The rumor said they would be revealed at E3 right?

Could he be wrong?

Who said that?

Plus, I find it interesting how Villager is using punching gloves... Is that supposed to represent Little Mac like Balloon Fighter being a recovery for Villager too? But I would like to see Little Mac. Palutena HAS to be in this game now that they changed Pit's moveset that seems to hint at her inclusion.
 

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Probably the same way as Villager with one set design. Except with the Mii you might be able to change its face.
Doesn't that kinda defeat the point of the Mii, though?

So...no word on Pac-Man, Little Mac or Mii yet?

The rumor said they would be revealed at E3 right?

Could he be wrong?
It's not even noon at E3 yet. We'll have to wait a bit longer to see. I hope he's wrong.
 

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Developer directs: maybe. Nintendo directs: don't expect a new one until at least late September.
Actually I'd expect one around July to correspond with the Wii U's big summer update.

So...no word on Pac-Man, Little Mac or Mii yet?

The rumor said they would be revealed at E3 right?

Could he be wrong?
Yes, but with rumors you never know what can happen. I definitely believe him about the characters considering all of the evidence pointing to his credibility, but Sakurai might have decided to show them off at a later time. Or they might come later today. We don't know right now.

Doesn't that kinda defeat the point of the Mii, though?
Not in my opinion. But I don't care for them either way so my opinion might be less representative of the general public.
 

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I was arguing about this with my friends yesterday. I don't think there is ANY reason for cuts to Brawl's roster (Toon Link included). Every single character had merit and was important enough within their own franchise to be included (even Lucario). As far as cloning goes, Sakurai's sloppiness is no reason to axe characters like Wolf, who can easily be decloned. I know I'm in the minority here, but I think they should just build on top of Brawl's roster.
The only reason for cuts is if it makes room for more interesting newcomers and more varied franchise representation, which certainly is a potential argument. I agree that every member of Brawl's roster does have merit, however.
 

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Who said that?

Plus, I find it interesting how Villager is using punching gloves... Is that supposed to represent Little Mac like Balloon Fighter being a recovery for Villager too?
I said this yesterday but seems to be more representative of the NES games that were present on the Japanese version of the original Animal Crossing than a way to outright replace characters.
 

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I'm finally able to post for some reason I couldn't get on the site yesterday.. honestly Villager is my favorite newcomer so far he's just too awesome.
 

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I was arguing about this with my friends yesterday. I don't think there is ANY reason for cuts to Brawl's roster (Toon Link included). Every single character had merit and was important enough within their own franchise to be included (even Lucario). As far as cloning goes, Sakurai's sloppiness is no reason to axe characters like Wolf, who can easily be decloned. I know I'm in the minority here, but I think they should just build on top of Brawl's roster.
Finally, someone who speaks English. That is exactly how I feel and why I don't understand people who want to ax up to 1/3 of the roster just so that way it can feel "fresher". Especially after Sakurai -- as far as we can tell -- has shown he is willing to change veteran's playstyles in this game.
 

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Finally, someone who speaks English. That is exactly how I feel and why I don't understand people who want to ax up to 1/3 of the roster just so that way it can feel "fresher", especially after Sakurai -- as far as we can tell -- is willing to change veterans playstyles.
While I agree, I would also hope that people can understand why some individuals might want, say, Pokemon to lose one of its 6 reps so a completely unrepresented franchise that does deserve inclusion can get in.
 

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Finally, someone who speaks English. That is exactly how I feel and why I don't understand people who want to ax up to 1/3 of the roster just so that way it can feel "fresher". Especially after Sakurai -- as far as we can tell -- has shown he is willing to change veteran's playstyles in this game.
Exactly. Look at the drastic changes to Bowser and Pit. This would have been unheard of in Brawl. I think there's now a real chance for improvement. Sakurai's huge team ON TOP of the fact that they essentially copied Brawl and are building on top of it gives them a HELL of a lot more resources than we're imagining here.
 

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While I agree, I would also hope that people can understand why some individuals might want, say, Pokemon to lose one of their 6 reps so a completely unrepresented franchise that does deserve inclusion can get in.
I get it, I just don't agree with it.
Exactly. Look at the drastic changes to Bowser and Pit. This would have been unheard of in Brawl. I think there's now a real chance for improvement. Sakurai's huge team ON TOP of the fact that they essentially copied Brawl and are building on top of it gives them a HELL of a lot more resources than we're imagining here.
I think Sakurai deferring some power to some of the heads from Namco is allowing for some fresh perspective to be given to the roster, which can only results in good things, it already has from what I can tell.
I guess so. :o
 

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Even if they're are cut characters, they can always return via DLC

on the rumor

Pac-Man (alright)
Little Mac (pretty cool)
Mii (with villager as well?)
 

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Until we learn that his Final Smash has been changed, none of the changes really hint at her inclusion. Even then a change in the Final Smash could simply be because Pit's was kind of weak.

That's what I was getting at, I just see Pit being updated with Uprising moves which is quite the natural (and better) route.
 

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Exactly. Look at the drastic changes to Bowser and Pit. This would have been unheard of in Brawl. I think there's now a real chance for improvement. Sakurai's huge team ON TOP of the fact that they essentially copied Brawl and are building on top of it gives them a HELL of a lot more resources than we're imagining here.
God dammit you guys you're getting me hyped.
 
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