HeavenWolfHD
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what ? How it was in Brawl ?up-b now functions like Brawl again
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what ? How it was in Brawl ?up-b now functions like Brawl again
It’s just slower that’s why they’re bad... the game is about speed and whenever you you are slower you are at a disadvantage. It’s just a fact... there’s no character in the game without a tether whom I would say “I wish they had one!” Luigi had a quick reliable grab... in every installment of smash.Why does everyone hate tether grabs so much, anyway? Sure, you're more open if you miss, but you can connect from further away. It's a basic range/frame data trade-off, except since a tether grab is a grab, the worse frame data becomes completely irrelevant if the grab connects (since the grab-whiff animation is skipped and the characters transition into the grabbing/grabbed state).
Yeah, but your grab works from farther away, and the startup isn't substantially worse.It’s just slower that’s why they’re bad... the game is about speed and whenever you you are slower you are at a disadvantage. It’s just a fact... there’s no character in the game without a tether whom I would say “I wish they had one!” Luigi had a quick reliable grab... in every installment of smash.
I guess I dont really hate tethers... just the fact that Luigi has one.
I don’t know what you want me to say... it’s just a fact that tether grabs are not as good as regular grabs. Luigi’s epecially since he can’t tether the ledge.Yeah, but your grab works from farther away, and the startup isn't substantially worse.
Again, it's a trade-off between range and speed. How much range would be needed for people to consider the trade-off worth it?I don’t know what you want me to say... it’s just a fact that tether grabs are not as good as regular grabs. Luigi’s epecially since he can’t tether the ledge.
This is the only thing I dislike about it. Maybe in the final build they changed it or in a update in the future? Elegant said he was going to find a way to make back on stage easier, so maybe all the pros will figure it out when the game releases.I don’t know what you want me to say... it’s just a fact that tether grabs are not as good as regular grabs. Luigi’s epecially since he can’t tether the ledge.
Less lag went higher. I think it was more powerful in Brawl too but I'll take what I can get.what ? How it was in Brawl ?
I would agree if his up-b wasn't nerfed but the extra recovery would have helped him a lot and if his grab was less laggy like everyone else's, fireballs would be a good way for him to get a quick grab. But it doesn't recover and has a ton of lag so it went from possible slight buff to huge nerf.
Well, it can get him shield grabs that he normally would have missed due to his trction.The thing with tether grabs is that they tend to be good in frame trap situations, which the Links tend to be good at. When someone shields to deal with projectiles, you can have the grab ready to go. But does Luigi have that ability? He has a fireball, but I don't know if he can force shield instead of a jump or retreat. Maybe with conditioning. I don't know, just something to think about.
https://twitter.com/SSS_SSB/status/1068232198749343744Luigi's grab is now a tether, which might be a major nerf, it also can't grab the edge.
Wow that is fast, almost like a normal grab.https://twitter.com/SSS_SSB/status/1068232198749343744
You can dump it on someone's head to combo off of it. It doesn't work like other tethers.
I was not joking when I said he was a monster on stage. This is a true combo if you follow DI pic.twitter.com/B34kmYwLaD
— Dakpo (@TheDakpo) December 2, 2018
Oh yea, I'm liking thisAnother one.I was not joking when I said he was a monster on stage. This is a true combo if you follow DI pic.twitter.com/B34kmYwLaD
— Dakpo (@TheDakpo) December 2, 2018
And another one.
congrats I'm one of you beasts nowOh yea, I'm liking this
you could say the same about ike ~No High tier I think. His recovery will be hard
Yeah he struggles against him. Projectiles are not Luigi's friend. Just gotta stay calm and only go in when you can.I am struggling against Simon.
Fireballs are your best friend in these cases if they aren't your best friend in general. They are a great neutral tool and they can stop some projectiles like Link's arrows or Dr. Mario's pills. Wolf's lasers are not one of these. Wolf is a hard matchup for Luigi until he gets in and I would argue it's one of his worst (right now until we find a broken 0 to death of course).Yeah he struggles against him. Projectiles are not Luigi's friend. Just gotta stay calm and only go in when you can.
I agree... I'm going to miss his spinny mario 64 back throw... Mario, Doc, and Wario still have it :'[I love Luigi's new Poltergust grabbing and throwing! That is so fun. XD Though I do also miss that spinny back throw he always had before, this DOES make him even more different than Mario than he was previously. And more use of the Poltergust is always neat. :3
Glad I'm always gonna be a Luigi main along with an Ike main!
Doc's b-throw was actually changed, it's one of the few moveset changes he got.I agree... I'm going to miss his spinny mario 64 back throw... Mario, Doc, and Wario still have it :'[
I hope we get good updates this time!Sup guys, Luigi boards moderator here. Looks like a patch came out that affected Luigi. Someone is welcome to make a thread discussing these changes, if there is enough to generate reasonable discussion.
I think that they will not buff him. I am more afraid that they will even nerf his downthrow zerotodeath combo.
Will Luigi get buffed?
Any possible moveset changes?
Any new alt colors/costumes?
Will they bring back this animation?
Is Luigi number 1?
Discuss here.
I think Luigi is just gonna have a more combo heavy playstyle instead of gimp based like sm4sh and brawlI don't think Luigi is going to return guys.