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Terywj [태리]

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How sad :(
That'll be a major game-changer for UU though.

*Remembers the existence of Pursuit*

Then again, maybe not...
Alakazam will get pwned by Pursuit and priority, but this isn't the place to talk about that.

Hariyama @ Leftovers
Adamant / Guts
80 HP / 172 Atk / 252 Def / 4 Spd
~ Force Palm
~ Ice Punch
~ Thunderpunch
~ Stone Edge

-Terywj
 

xLeafybug =D

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@Hariyama

Mesprit @ Life Orb
Timid / Levitate
200 HP / 252 Sp. Atk / 56 Spe
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Thunder
Blizzard

I'm doing this on my phone right now, so I can't check. But it should work.
 

Platypus

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Akordin' 2 mI calQl8ns, Arbok one-shots Alakazam on the switch, but I am not very reliable, so, maybe not.

Against Mediocresprit:

Probopass w/Focus Sash
Calm/Sturdy
110 HP/ 200 Sp. Atk./ 200 Sp. Def.
+ Power Gem
+ Earth Power
+ Torment
+ Pain Split
I deflect all but Thunder, which is next to useless. Torment assures victoriousliness.
 

Metal~Mario

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^ So does that mean this counter chain is off?

If not:

Topside (Hitmontop)@Leftovers
Technician/Adamant
252At/252HP/6Def
Close Combat
Mach Punch
Sucker Punch
Stone Edge
 

Wave⁂

Smash Legend
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Hey guys, guess what else didn't work.
OH OH OH PICK ME

Is it ur mom?

Counters Probopass:

Wishcash @ Rindo Berry
Adamant / Oblivious
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpDef
Dragon Dance
Aqua Tail
Earthquake
Stone Edge

Outspeeds and OHKOs after surviving something.
 

Metal~Mario

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Ummmmm.....

Annoying, I already countered Probo. I guess I should have been a little clearer about that. Sorry:(

....Unless Hitmontop doesn't work, in which case, tell me.

****, this is confusing. Didn't the first counter game threads end up like this?
 

WouW

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Vs. Arbok: (since that was the last successful one)

Seviper @ Life Orb
Naughty/Shed Skin
252Atk/252Spe/4SpA
Poison Jab
Flamethrower
Earthquake
Giga Drain

Can't do much to me without OHKOing you back. FYI, Life Orb damage doesn't activate when hitting a sub.
 

jigglyppuff8

Smash Lord
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Weezing @ Black Sludge
Levitate
Bold (+ def - atk)
252 HP/212 Sp. atk/46 def
~Thunderbolt
~Flamethrower
~Hidden Power [Ice]
~Will 'O Wisp

Someone might want to check just to make sure.
 

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Smash Ace
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Camerupt w/ Lum Berry
Solid Rock/Quiet
252 HP/252 SpAtk/4 Atk
-Fire Blast
-Earth Power
-HP Grass
-Stone Edge
 

xLeafybug =D

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Milotic @ Leftovers
Modest / Marvel Scale
252 Def / 252 Sp. Atk / 4 Sp. Def
Hydro Pump
Blizzard
HP Fighting
Recover

Walls HP Grass through Recover, 0HKO's with Hydro Pump.
 

Wave⁂

Smash Legend
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Octillery @ Leftovers
Modest
252 HP / 252 SpAtk / 4 SpDef
WATER SPOUT
Blizzard
Energy Ball
HP Electric

Octillery gets Fire Blast. lol.
 

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Smash Ace
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Octillery @ Leftovers
Modest
252 HP / 252 SpAtk / 4 SpDef
WATER SPOUT
Blizzard
Energy Ball
HP Electric

Octillery gets Fire Blast. lol.
Energy Ball fails to 2HKO Milotic (41.09% - 48.94%), while you get outsped and 4HKOd by Hydro Pump (31.92% - 37.57%).

COUNTER FAIL

Milotic is the current counter.
 

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@Milotic:

Raikou @ Life Orb
Timid

252 Sp Atk / 252 Sp / 4 HP

Thunderbolt
HP Ice
Extrasensory
Shadow Ball

TBolt 2HKO's (between 71.903% and 84.592% each hit). Nothing of Milotic's 2HKO's.
 

Circa

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Choice items are banned, due to old issues with them iirc. Your counter still works, but you'll either need to find a new item or we assume you have none. Just thought I'd tell you. :ohwell:
 

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Smash Ace
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@Milotic:

Raikou @ Life Orb
Timid

252 Sp Atk / 252 Sp / 4 HP

Thunderbolt
HP Ice
Extrasensory
Shadow Ball

TBolt 2HKO's (between 71.903% and 84.592% each hit). Nothing of Milotic's 2HKO's.
Umm where are you getting your calcs? Because in Libelldra I'm getting:

328 Atk vs 196 Def & 262 HP (120 Base Power): 216 - 255 (82.44% - 97.33%)

for Hydro Pump vs your rat. There's no way you can take 2 of those. And even if you OHKOd you'd still die from recoil.

COUNTER FAIL

Milotic is still the current counter.

EDIT: Disregard this, he said "Raikou" not "Raichu".
 

WouW

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It's Raikou, not Raichu, although Hydro Pump still 2HKOs. (55.90% - 66.15%)

And Tbolt does 92.17% - 108.43%, not enough to guarantee a 100% counter.

Raikou @ Life Orb
Timid/Pressure
252SpA/252Spe/4HP
Thunder
HP Ice
Extrasensory
Shadow Ball

There, a 100% working one.
 

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Smash Ace
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It's Raikou, not Raichu, although Hydro Pump still 2HKOs. (55.90% - 66.15%)
Oh that explains some things

EDIT: Vs. Raikou:
Steelix w/ Passho Berry (1/2 water damage)
Sassy/Rock Head
192 HP/64 Atk/252 SPDEF
-Earthquake
-Toxic
-Stone Edge
-Gyro Ball

Attack ensures Earthquake kills after 2 turns of recoil. Not like it matters, because you do a pittance of damage with hidden power anyway.
 

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Smash Legend
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Hmm, I was using the one in the Q+A thread and it said Hydro Pump did like 23% to 34% or something O_o I might have read it wrong.

I'll use the Libelldra one from now on to prevent any more stuff like this, sorry :urg:

Also lol Raichu.
 

Wave⁂

Smash Legend
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Monjobo @ Leftovers
Leaf Guard / Sassy
252 SpDef / 178 Atk / 80 SpAtk
Sleep Powder
Powa Whip
HP Fire
Earthquake

Steelix's Gyro Ball 3HKOs with 150 base power, which it definitely isn't. I outspeed, Sleep you, and KO with HP Fire.
 

Circa

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Honchkrow@Liechi Berry
Insomnia/Adamant
252 ATK/4 DEF/252 SPE
- Brave Bird
- Substitute
- Drill Peck
- Superpower

You fail to 2HKO as I outspeed and OHKO with Brave Bird.

This set's pretty ****ed up. I sorta kinda feel sorry for the person who has to counter it, tbh. Too much calculation. :urg:

EDIT: Wow I'm dumb...I probably should've had Sucker Punch instead of Drill Peck on this. Oh well. I'm not changing it. >.<
 

UltiMario

Out of Obscurity
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Altaria@Life Orb
Modest/Natural Cure
4HP/252SpA/252Spe
Draco Meteor
Flamethrower
Dragon Pulse
Roost

Edit: Ninja'd Ffffff, Changed to be a counter
Your lack of Sucker Punch is your Demise. I outspeed Draco MEteor OHKOs, no Ifs, ands, or buts.
 

Circa

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And your counter doesn't work on mine, meaning the bird of death better known as Honchkrow is still the current counter. :3
 

ungulateman

Smash Journeyman
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Rotom @ Leftovers
Levitate / Bold
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp
- Confuse Ray

Non-forme Rotom is UU.
 

UltiMario

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Not anymore.
Edit: Aaaa Ninjas all over the place.

Altaria was edited to Counter Honchcrow, and I have some doubts about Rotom Countering Altaria.....
 

Circa

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Chansey@Leftovers
Natural Cure/Calm
252 HP/252 SpA/4 SpD
- Aromatherapy
- Softboiled
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam

Stupid set I know, but it counters both of you (neither can 2HKO and I can just keep Calm Minding to my heart's content). So now we can end the ninja'd confusion. :p
 

jigglyppuff8

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Glalie @ Leftovers
Careful (+ sp. def - sp. atk)
Inner Focus
252 HP/198 sp. def/62 atk
~Super Fang
~Return
~Earthquake
~Crunch

I probably did my damage calcs wrong somewhere so...
 

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Smash Ace
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Rhyperior w/ Liechi berry
Adamant/Solid rock
4 HP/252 ATK/252 SPE
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Substitute
-Rock Polish

your Earthquake maxes at under 25%. Stone edge obviously murders you.
 

Circa

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Claydol@Leftovers
Bold/Levitate
4 HP/252 DEF/252 SDEF
- Rest
- Cosmic Power
- Charge Beam
- HP Grass

I'm not entirely sure why I'm doing this kind of set, but whatevs. It's coo. Stall'd for the Struggle kill. :3
 

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Smash Ace
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Sceptile w/ Leftovers
Timid/Overgrow
216 HP/40 SPA/252 SPD
-Substitute
-Leech Seed
-Energy Ball
-HP Ice

Have fun
 

Circa

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Clefable@Leftovers
Bold/Magic Guard
252 HP/152 DEF/104 SATK
- Calm Mind
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Softboiled

Pulled right off Smogon. :)
 

RuNNing Riot

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Chansey@Leftovers
Modest/Serene Grace
252Def/252SpA/4HP

Grass Knot
Gravity
Hidden Power Ground
Softboiled

Huge Special Def. walls your whole set, 2HKOs with a 100 BP supereffective Grass Knot. Softboils off any damage you inflict.
 

Wave⁂

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Umbreon @ Chople Berry
Synchronize / Brave
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Curse
Payback
Yawn
Last Resort

Ninja'd, but I'm 99% sure it still works. INB4STEEELIX
 
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