MysteryRevengerson
IT'S A MYSTERY TO ALL
Well, it's not just from the videos, I have played the match up a few times, and did just well, but he didn't camp lasers at all and was easy.
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The videos give a good Idea how the matchup can be. And did you know Will has beaten nakat in the tournament before? It´s not like Will played the MU the first time.You shouldn't judge the MU from those matches. And Fox' fair doesn't destroy any character, lol.
Will needs to SDI more; you get out of Fox' dair and fair pretty easy.
You and your boys are discussing stage strikes and things to counter me! How could you all! Ggs Will after seeing you guys talk about gimping me so much I'm gonna go practice not letting you get me offstage lmao! GL in our next set though no DK punches allowed though!Sup guys, I would just like to say that... my match vs Nakat is pretty hard for me to watch. I did watch it again once though, and I realized this: I was playing the matchup more like he was falco than fox. You'll notice that I attempted to grounded up b as an approach several times and was punished for it repeatedly xD
Also, instead of applying pressure by zoning at all times, I camped and tried to charge punch, which is not such a smart thing to do vs lasers.
I'm looking forward to the next time I play Nakat to redeem myself and have a muchhhh closer set. I also practiced with Rookie several days after that set to make sure that I knew how to properly edge guard fox- since getting him off the stage and making him eat b-airs is probably the most important thing to know how to do in that matchup!
Get out of here Nakat LOL! Hope you havnt forgot about me you still want that revenge. And I look forward for our next rematch dnt worry I have a few tricks against fox I want to show you I want to kill fox like there going to kill naruto in the manga LOLOLYou and your boys are discussing stage strikes and things to counter me! How could you all! Ggs Will after seeing you guys talk about gimping me so much I'm gonna go practice not letting you get me offstage lmao! GL in our next set though no DK punches allowed though!
Brinstar and Delfino are sexy stages.lol Neon! fox dair is not safe at all. you can easily shield grab it (even though our (I mean DK´s) shield sucks).
I recommend retreating bairs in order to beat bair, dair and grabs.
Fox is really good on neutrals (SV, BF, FD) and halberd.
Some Fox players have problems with lylat and yoshi´s island. Brinstar and Delfino could work.
I will never leave. I will be the demon embodied in this thread that will haunt you for the rest of your life! You and Will wanna jump me yo it's ok your tricks won't work on me because I am the son of god!Get out of here Nakat LOL! Hope you havnt forgot about me you still want that revenge. And I look forward for our next rematch dnt worry I have a few tricks against fox I want to show you I want to kill fox like there going to kill naruto in the manga LOLOL
DK's grab sucks too! Ours is frame 8 . Can we still shield grab it?lol Neon! fox dair is not safe at all. you can easily shield grab it (even though our (I mean DK´s) shield sucks).
I recommend retreating bairs in order to beat bair, dair and grabs.
Fox is really good on neutrals (SV, BF, FD) and halberd.
Some Fox players have problems with lylat and yoshi´s island. Brinstar and Delfino could work.
omg lol, Cable making some death threats.Get out of here Nakat LOL! Hope you havnt forgot about me you still want that revenge. And I look forward for our next rematch dnt worry I have a few tricks against fox I want to show you I want to kill fox like there going to kill naruto in the manga LOLOL
FixedYeah i was wrong, fox's dair isnt safe even if he lands behind us.
I'm all over it =) One of my absolute favorite matchups in the entire worldddddSonic boards are discussing Donkey Kong. Come give us some input on how you deal with Sonic and where to cp/ban against DK.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297675
Interesting. I deffinitely agree on the approaching part.I'd like to bring up a lesser known matchup that can actually be quite hard for us considering he's a low tier: Link. After playing with aero link the past couple of weekends I realized how difficult it can be to approach him. The matchup is similar to toon link except this one will be played closer to the ground, link kills faster and has more range on a lot of moves, his grab is also more useful for punishing mispaced bairs. His recovery is worse and he's slower overall but he lives longer, overall I'd say its 55:45 in our favor.
The zss matchup used to be listed as even but I'm pretty sure its a little worse than that for us. She can be difficult to approach but our main problem is how well she can punish our mistakes. Uair is rediculous at juggling, side-b/ dash attack can make it difficult to land and if she lands a dsmash on the ledge its a free KO if we dont have our 2nd jump.Interesting. I deffinitely agree on the approaching part.
Too bad that those few decent Links I know never use that character against me.
The only good Link player that lives close to me is Izaw (Sweden), whom I might be playing in the near or not-so-near future.
Just as a side-note... Dont you guys think that we should discuss more of the high-tier MU's?
While Snake, Marth, DDD and Wario have been covered pretty well, I have seen nothing or very little talk about characters like Pikachu, Olimar, ZSS, Lucario, IC, and GW.
The stuff about MK seems pretty outdated as well.
i do, but to even start the move dk has to be higher enough to fall very lag and again punish , really man, is so anoying please focus topic to know how to erradicate sheik!!!you should probably try up-bing to get out of those f-tilts
It's our favor. Our first 90% is free. Sheik has high damage strings, and some combos, on nearly ever character in the game, so relatively it's really not that bad. F-tilt repeatedly is not the scary combo. Sheik shouldn't be able to f-tilt more than around 4 times max if you're DIing correctly and buffering up-b. What Sheik really does to DK is combo for a bit, and then reset it with a frame trap. F-tilt x 3 > u-tilt/f-air> more aerials or grabs and stuff.Dear smashboards....f$%&/ you, DK - sheik its 4 real a 70/30 dk losing , sheik can ****ing 50 or 60% DK as easy as you say **** :S , really am angry cause isaw is kicking my *** so hard with just 2 ir 3 combos 1 stock, YEAH BRAWL HAS COMBOS!!! and they aim DK
SAME RESULTS.....i do good di, but still is ****ing impossible, down tilt sucks against her, i mean, no punish but its useless, up b takes too much time to start FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFIt's our favor. Our first 90% is free. Sheik has high damage strings, and some combos, on nearly ever character in the game, so relatively it's really not that bad. F-tilt repeatedly is not the scary combo. Sheik shouldn't be able to f-tilt more than around 4 times max if you're DIing correctly and buffering up-b. What Sheik really does to DK is combo for a bit, and then reset it with a frame trap. F-tilt x 3 > u-tilt/f-air> more aerials or grabs and stuff.
Ideally Sheik should be getting you up to somewhere around 70%-90% before you stop being juggled. That's really cool, but Sheik shouldn't be killing us before 160% unless we do something really stupid. It only takes us about 4 good reads in a stock to kill Sheik.
My biggest tip in this match-up honestly should be to stay out of the air. Second tip would be to not f-tilt. Sheik is incredibly good at punishing, even well spaced f-tilts can be punished and b-air leaves you in an undesirable position. Moves like down-b and up-b are incredible here. They do great damage and there's a lot of situations where you can more or less force Sheik to get hit by them (when she's landing for one).
Oh, and take the match-up slow. Don't run at them, don't jump every time you hit them into the air.
Edit: Do you know how to DI entirely? DI up and towards Sheik when being f-tilted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMhy29SGkDU
This might be helpful.
I ****ing lol'ed hard.throw fireballs from a distance.