Ocarina of time duh, imo its more of a classic than the original
(yes I know fail, a later release can't be older than one released 10 years earlier)
WW was my favorite, that's why I got phantom hourglass which wasn't too bad
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Legend of Zelda The Milk Bar [Archived]
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WW was my favorite, that's why I got phantom hourglass which wasn't too bad
ummm PH discussion? I liked the game, I think that cellshading fit this game much better than WW. Additionally, I loved most of the concepts in this game, and the puzzles were decent. I found the heart pieces to be much more interesting in this game than all other hand-helds in the series, with the possible exception of LA.
However! I have to have some issue with the game (the only perfect LoZ game so far was MM
), and for me it was controlling Link's sword/items. My hand got pretty tired from all the movement on the small screen, and I was swearing i had carpal tunnel by the end of the game. Anyone else? issues with PH?
ummm PH discussion? I liked the game, I think that cellshading fit this game much better than WW. Additionally, I loved most of the concepts in this game, and the puzzles were decent. I found the heart pieces to be much more interesting in this game than all other hand-helds in the series, with the possible exception of LA.
However! I have to have some issue with the game (the only perfect LoZ game so far was MM
Anyone else? issues with PH?
that is true and the multiplayer was completely different than what anybody expected, you have to agree on that c'mon who saw that coming? And the fact that you have to go back to the temple every time you beat a boss to go 2 levels and go back out to the next one got repetitive and annoying after a while, but I did get to clear the first 6 floors with 0 seconds wasted which is very convenient, since clearing the dungeon after beating the last boss gets you loads of spoils
Skrah
Smash Ace
I didn't like PH much. Pretty much played it through 100% and haven't touched it since.
Scott!
Smash Lord
I enjoyed using the stylus for PH a lot, actually. I didn't find it too bad on my hand; the only other game I've played a lot on DS with the stylus was TWEWY, and that was a LOT more demanding on my hand.
But I liked PH anyway. The one dungeon being revisited was bothersome, but I liked the other dungeons, and the ruins area in the NE quadrant. Plus, sailing was fun, though not as much as WW.
It was also a much better game...
Champion_Link
Smash Cadet
So for my own amusement and sense of accomplishment I'm going to attempt an OOT speedrun after I do some extensive preparation. Anyone here ever try it? What's your best times?
Skrah
Smash Ace
Mmm I can't recall right now, the last speedrun on OoT I did was several years ago, but I sure as hell beat those speedgamer guys. They failed really bad :/
SkylerOcon
Tiny Dancer
I think the fastest time I've beaten OoT in is about... six or seven hours? Not necessarily the best in the world, but not bad.
@Srkah: Did the speedgamers fail in the Zelda speedrun attempt?
@Srkah: Did the speedgamers fail in the Zelda speedrun attempt?
Vorguen
Smash Champion
How do you prepare for a speed run? lol
Skrah
Smash Ace
They did. Like by 3 hours last time I checked the run.
For Oot My time was around 2 hours. I'm currently trying a MM speed run if anyone wants to see it. http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=89420B74321DAA2C
I better goal for MM is not a speed run, but rather see how few days (in game) it takes you to beat the game. I dont care if you beat the game in 3 human minutes, if it takes you 17 days in game thats pathetic.
or try doing both at the same time
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
The fastest number of days you can win it is 6I better goal for MM is not a speed run, but rather see how few days (in game) it takes you to beat the game. I dont care if you beat the game in 3 human minutes, if it takes you 17 days in game thats pathetic.
or try doing both at the same time
Vorguen
Smash Champion
I beat it in 5 days.
Vorguen
Smash Champion
LoZ?
Do you mean the original NES version?
Do you mean the original NES version?
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
Do you mean 5 human days?
Because you HAVE to wait until midnight on the first and second go around for the clock tower to open, so it's impossible to win it in 5 MM days...
You could always use a glitch to get in the clock tower using it you could beat it in 4 days.
without glitches max is 6 days
MuraRengan
Banned via Warnings
I wouldn't call it a speedrun, but i do play through it for no reason at times.
I guess you could do the song to jump forward through time if you completed the game in the first 5 days..... But tahts asking a LOT.
I have done the 6 day ONCE, tried it again and screwed up. Id rather go through the entire game and complete everything 100%. Get all the little fairy ****s and upgrade the sword, nab all the heart pieces and complete the notebook. I have done speed runs of most Zelda games (admit- they arent very fast), and I have done "uber challenges" for them as well- but id rather complete everything- thats what I like, and thats why I play, the Zelda games
SkylerOcon
Tiny Dancer
So we have a speedrunner in here, eh?
I'm surprised that we haven't had one come in before. Glad to have you here, and I looked through your MM run and it was pretty impressive (didn't watch all of it, though). Much better than I can do.
Yeah I meant the orig. In hindsight LoZ is a pretty vague acronym in an all Zelda thread, sorry!
Vorguen
Smash Champion
That's fine. I have never really done a speedrun for any game ever. I don't feel right, I have to do everything. haha
Scott!
Smash Lord
I'm like Vorguen; I can't help but stop to get stuff, do things, etc. I would have trouble walking by a heart piece I knew I could get, but that would slow me down. Never even tried; it just wouldn't be fun for me.
Ochobobo
Smash Lord
Same as Vorguen and Scott.
Growing up with Banjo-Kazooie where the entire point is to collect trivial objects, it's hard to walk by any item and not collect it, lol
Growing up with Banjo-Kazooie where the entire point is to collect trivial objects, it's hard to walk by any item and not collect it, lol
Yeah I'm in the same boat, I need to find everything in games usually before I'm satisfied. I just recently got into speedruns just to change my play style a bit. If you go through the games and collect everything, especially Zelda and Metroid, Link and Samus are absolute tanks by the end, and the games lose their challenge. Speeding through or doing a 3 heart challenge forces you to make decisions on what to do next or how to confront a room instead of just plowing through a bunch of wizzrobes just because you can.
Those games were the DENKNESS!
I hate that Banjo-Kazooie series is no longer with Nintendo. That nuts and bolts deal with the 360 is kinda lame, but I really wish there was another Banjo-Kazooie game for nintendo.
And Banjo-Tooie was the denkness.
and btw, really good comparision, Ocho
Darkslash
Smash Master
I hate runs. I love collecting stuff. Be it those 24 bugs or all the heart pieces. Any space on that boat?
The Halloween Captain
Smash Master
I never understood the big deal with Banjo-Kazooie. However, this is most likely because I hate 100% required completion collectathons even more than terrible gameplay and evil cameras.
Vorguen
Smash Champion
I beat it in 5 in-game days.
Seriously, for me it's Final Fantasy habits. lol
damezguy
Smash Apprentice
ocarina of time will always hold fond memories from me, it was the game that got me into nintendo proper and make me respect how hard it must be to make a game so complex. I just hope the next zelda isnt changed too much, you hear all this talk of ''oooo zelda is going nowhere, tp was same of oot but bigger'. yeah granted but changing the raw mechanics of the 3d zelda we love is changing zelda itself. i hope nintendo definetly do make some changes but not some of the stuff ive heard.
SkylerOcon
Tiny Dancer
Well, Miyamoto had initially wanted to have Twilight Princess run entirely in first person. They at one point had the game running entirely in first person and even demonstrated it to a group of people. Despite that I think the reaction was positive, they decided to go back to a third person view.
In reality, I don't think there's much thats control/system related that Nintendo will change for the next Zelda.
However...
We can't rule out a change in setting, changing weapons, or really... a change in anything related to the game! Miyamoto said that Zelda was being revolutionized or... something along those lines... so it's really up in the air right now.
@Speedrunning
I usually go through the game one time, and then have my second run either be a speed or 100% completion run. My third run would be whichever of the former I hadn't done yet.
Scott!
Smash Lord
@Halloween Captain: Your lack of love for Banjo-Kazooie makes my childhood cry.
On topic: I doubt they'll change much of anything control-wise in the next Zelda. What they've got going works well, I think. I wouldn't want it in first person, honestly. I'd rather see Link walking around and all that.
On topic: I doubt they'll change much of anything control-wise in the next Zelda. What they've got going works well, I think. I wouldn't want it in first person, honestly. I'd rather see Link walking around and all that.
The Halloween Captain
Smash Master
I would not play a Legend of Zelda in First Person. I just don't like the first person genre. Maybe it's because I like to see my character's feet when I judge distances, or maybe it's because I don't like enemies directly in my face. Still, First Person optional would have been kinda cool.
Sorry about not liking Banjo-Kazooie, but I was fairly young at the time, so I actually failed to ever complete the first stage. I did manage to get through the tutorial at least, but for me, the entire 64 bit era was marked by laughably weak controls by current standards and unintuitive puzzles without the luxury of fast, significant online aid. If a game has bad controls and aweful graphics, independent of comparison other than the inability to do what I want because of these factors, then I had trouble liking the game. Even the pinnacle of Super Mario 64 wasn't all that fun for me because while at the time technically impressive, I would often rather do something else entirely (like sports) than trod through those poorly pixalated areas with controls that while relatively good when compared to other games of the era, do not allow me to master simple things like the wall jump properly. Maybe that was also because I was very young though (less than ten).
Sorry about not liking Banjo-Kazooie, but I was fairly young at the time, so I actually failed to ever complete the first stage. I did manage to get through the tutorial at least, but for me, the entire 64 bit era was marked by laughably weak controls by current standards and unintuitive puzzles without the luxury of fast, significant online aid. If a game has bad controls and aweful graphics, independent of comparison other than the inability to do what I want because of these factors, then I had trouble liking the game. Even the pinnacle of Super Mario 64 wasn't all that fun for me because while at the time technically impressive, I would often rather do something else entirely (like sports) than trod through those poorly pixalated areas with controls that while relatively good when compared to other games of the era, do not allow me to master simple things like the wall jump properly. Maybe that was also because I was very young though (less than ten).
Ochobobo
Smash Lord
I really don't see how first person would work in Zelda, since your main weapon is a sword. They tried the same thing in Red Steel, and from what I hear the controls in that game were clunky and awful. First person should only work when using a bow/crossbow/slingshot/boomerang/hookshot, like it is already.
And lol at discussing the pros and cons of Banjo-Kazooie.
I really enjoyed the humor of the game, and its catchy music. And while the gameplay is very fun, it becomes a lot better after the first level when you progress deeper into Grunty's Lair.
Rareware's humor in their games has always been tongue-in-cheek, even back in the Donkey Kong Country days where Cranky Kong called DKC2 an unnecessary sequel. In fact in Banjo-Tooie they parodied the way Zelda games would introduce their bosses with their name and then their title beneath that, such as "Mr Patch: Strange Wobbly Inflatable Thing" lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxdbHtSAK28
And lol at discussing the pros and cons of Banjo-Kazooie.
I really enjoyed the humor of the game, and its catchy music. And while the gameplay is very fun, it becomes a lot better after the first level when you progress deeper into Grunty's Lair.
Rareware's humor in their games has always been tongue-in-cheek, even back in the Donkey Kong Country days where Cranky Kong called DKC2 an unnecessary sequel. In fact in Banjo-Tooie they parodied the way Zelda games would introduce their bosses with their name and then their title beneath that, such as "Mr Patch: Strange Wobbly Inflatable Thing" lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxdbHtSAK28
Darkslash
Smash Master
When the controls are done right, its seems pretty epic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qotHRXFpRjE&feature=related
BUT it may make people get motion sick...
The Halloween Captain
Smash Master
Especially me.
Yeah, I guess I can't criticize Banjo Kazooie too much if I couldn't make it past the first level. Except for having WAY to steep a difficulty curve on the first level (in my opinion).
Vorguen
Smash Champion
For a do everything fanatic how many hours is Zelda original, WW, and TP?
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