The *NEW* and *IMPROVED* move ranking list

[brinboy789]

How is Ivys's Bair not worse than Pika's.....?

isnt ivy's bair REALLY good for spacing?

 

[jjvirus]

isnt ivy's bair REALLY good for spacing?

It may be, I never really thought about it...I just thought it sucked cause of low knockback/damage.

 

[IKOU]

It may be, I never really thought about it...I just thought it sucked cause of low knockback/damage.

The range kinda makes up for it

 

[Xiahou Dun]

how is squirtle's dthrow not on the list

or ivysaur's bullet seed

what is this...this madness

also worst down b is squirtle's LOL

best down b...is ivysaur's LOL

ivy's nair is pretty good and combos into utilt/bullet seed

I mean OMGGGGGGGGG Ivysaur is sucks becuz bad recovery gimps at 0% evree stockkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!11

 

[Kitamerby]

Wow, this list blows ***!
How does Zero Suit Samus not make the best jab list? FAIL.

ZSS's jab combo is as follows:

Jab-Jab-*HIT*

 

[Aeropup]

ZSS's jab combo is as follows:

Jab-Jab-*HIT*

no, it goes like this:

MK dsma-*HIT*

 

[Munas]

I don't even understand why ZSS doesn't have a spot in the jab list: it comes out on frame 1, and interrupts EVERYTHING. Also think she deserves a spot on the u-tilt list for her wicked fast up tilt, probably lower on that list then the jab list though.

Also: the bair list - Really? Toon Link isn't on that list? REALLY?

 

[Sgt. Baker]

I think Ganon has the worst Grab range in the game. I play as him all the time and basically I have to be right on the guy.

 

[Kuga]

Take of Marth Bair a put in TL

 

[brinboy789]

Last edited by The_Blue_Bomber; 12-14-2008 at 08:39 AM.

...-_-;

 

[Orange_Soda_Man]

You can go ahead and put Sonic in for worst Fthrow.

 

[Nexus Bond]

Sonic's dthrow really isn't any good, at all. You can DI down (which is easy, since it takes a while before you move) and immediately tech. Then, you can grab or anything that comes out faster than a grab on Sonic, and he can't even do anything!
Falco's dash attack should be in the top 10, definitely, because of its speed, range, duration, and, more importantly, it can be canceled into Usmash on contact, called a Gatling Combo. The Gatling Combo is inescapable below about 60%. Another effect of this is that it's immensely useful against shielders who think they can punish Falco's dash attack with a shield-dropped attack, or shield grab. The moment they drop the shield, the Usmash hits.
For bair, Marth needs to get replaced by Toon Link.
Also, Falco's fair is the worst.

 

[Foufy]

Falco's f-air is definetly the worst. (Fox's b-air for worst IMO)
Link's Z-air can pretty safely be considered #1. It's his ultimate spacing tool and can be used to edgehog (let go of ledge, press z twice(grabs and pulls up to ledge), repeat as needed for invulnerability frames)
I really like diddy/marth's d-air for #10 (maybe #9?) Really good gimpability, wide range, strong spike opportunity, good for edgeguarding.
Marth's f-smash!!! Tip = TEH PAIN. Not as good as melee but still very strong, good range, spammable.

Diddy's f-tilt. good knockback/damage, HUGE RANGE, has more range than marth's f-smash, like wat-da-fock.

(Sorry for being totally in favor of my mains, I just know them best compared to the other characters.)

 

[Zodac]

Fsmash
1. Kirby
2. Game and Watch
3. Wario
4. Pit
5. Luigi
6. Lucas
7. Lucario
8. Donkey Kong
9.
10.
Worst.

mario and falco

Utilt
1. Snake
2. Fox
3. King Dedede
4. Peach
5. Pit
6. Mario
7. Kirby
8.
9.
10.
Worst. Ganondorf

DK

Ftilt
1. Snake
2. Shiek
3. Ike
4. Wolf
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
Worst.

rob

Dash
1. Snake
2. Ganondorf
3. Diddy Kong
4. Ivysaur
5. King Dedede
6. Game and Watch
7. Sonic
8. Meta Knight
9.
10.
Worst.

dk for worst, poor range on the move from a character with some of the best spacing in the game

Jab
1. Ike
2. Snake
3. Squirtle
4. Pit
5. Falco
6. Lucario
7. Luigi
8. Yoshi
9. Captain Falcon
10. Peach
Worst.

marth for worst, only used to cancel projectiles

Dair
1. Meta Knight
2. Lucario
3. Peach
4. Wario
5. Game and Watch
6. Falco
7. Fox
8. Ganondorf
9. Ness
10.
Worst. Sheik

marth>falcon

Uair
1. Meta Knight
2. Olimar
3. Ganondorf
4. Wario
5. Yoshi
6. King Dedede
7. Sonic
8. Captain Falcon
9.
10.
Worst. Lucas

marth again

Zair
1. Samus
5/Worst: Lucas

2. Olimar
3. Shiek
4. Link

not sure about this but i am sure Link>T link range is better.
Shiek lags less (before and after) If i recall than links
Olimar has great range with pikmin team but it goes diagnolaly

Neutral Special
1. Meta Knight
2. Snake
3. Falco
4. Lucario
5. Pit
6. ROB
7. Wario
8. Donkey Kong
9. Wolf
10.
Worst. Lucas/Ganondorf

PIKA, spamable, annoying, can be used in air against edge guarders

Up Special
1. Meta Knight
2. Pikachu
3. ROB
4. Marth
5. Game and Watch
6. Sonic
7. Ice Climbers
8. Bowser
9. Luigi
10. Donkey Kong
Worst. Jigglypuff

Bowser? poor recovery option and attack imo. i'd have snake and peach before bowser.
also luigi (can be combined with other recovery specials)>DK>bowser

Uthrow
1. Olimar
2. Meta Knight
3. Sonic
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
Worst.

kirbz

Pummel
1. Lucas
2. Olimar
3. Sonic
4. Lucario
5. Luigi
6. Mario
7.
8.
9.
10.
Worst. Samus

wtf is a pummel?

 

[Zodac]

somebody should test those z airs and get them over with

 

[zeldspazz]

Zelda's u-air, b-air, and f-airs are amazing if you can hit with them, able to ko light-medium weight characters at around 60-70 (even 50's if you close the blast zones). They should defidently be on this list, but maybe low around 8 or 9 because they can be tricky to land.

The worst d-spec I think is mario's, the only use I can think of is to hit lucas/ness when recovering with pk thunder.

Kirby's n-special is great, I love using it to copy character's specs like CF, Ivysaur, Pit, ect. Its also good for kirbysides and spitting them out under the stage for a ko.

It's 2am, I'm tired, and that's all I can think of for now. I'll be back when I'm....awake

*Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz* =P

 

[Kuga]

Fox Uair have good knockback/damage.Its good for Juggle at low %. Maybe Top 9-10?
And definetly Fox has not de worst Bair lol.