The Phantom Mafia - So This Is How Liberty Dies

[#HBC | Nabe]

Kon, if you thought that I was scum alongside praline, why did you PM Pokechu?

 

[LoneKonWolf]

It is what it is and i know hes town. It all checks out and he has a blaster to role block.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Kon, if you thought that I was scum alongside praline, why did you PM Pokechu?

Would you really talk to me after how much i scum hunted you to death? I wouldn't be surprised if you were the one to convince pokechu to shut me down and tell him to share the traitor talk.

It doesn't matter, mafia won't side with me and i can't accomplish my victory now.

You walk away completely spotless to this ignorant town and have victory in your claim as long as they remain this clueless of a stupid town. Congratulations nabe.

 

[BarDulL]

It is what it is and i know hes town. It all checks out and he has a blaster to role block.

I love when you make statements like “it all checks out” when Golden has literally been invisible all game with only a claim to his name.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

My abiliy makes him check out. Which you'll see upon my flip.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Would you really talk to me after how much i scum hunted you to death?

If I'm a hard scum read, then I should absolutely be listening to what you have to say as a claimed traitor, should I not?

But you went to Pokechu, whose name didn't even come up in Day 2 (you named me, praline and Opo).

 

[Z25]

Unvote

Vote: golden

 

[Fire Emblemier]

You claimed that Golden’s ability was called “Blaster,” right?

Aren’t abilities not supposed to have names? More importantly, Jedi don’t use blasters...right?

Also, you claim that Jedi are unable to defend themselves after Golden roleblocks them, which is of course pretty questionable lol. And he only has 3 charges as opposed to Maven’s limitless use. Sounds a little sketch to me.

My redirect is known as Mind Trick, for instance. Blasters are considered "clumsy and random" to Jedi of the Order, though, so they're not really known to use them unless you think of characters not necessarily part of the order like Kyle Katarn and Erza Brigder

 

[LoneKonWolf]

If I'm a hard scum read, then I should absolutely be listening to what you have to say as a claimed traitor, should I not?

But you went to Pokechu, whose name didn't even come up in Day 2 (you named me, praline and Opo).

No you wouldn't because you would only see me as an enemy.

Pokechu scum slipped day two and then i interrogated him at night, and when i can see his defense aligned mafia i opened up to him.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Pokechu scum slipped day two

Where and how?

i interrogated him at night, and when i can see his defense aligned mafia i opened up to him.

What did he say?

 

[Fire Emblemier]

No you wouldn't because you would only see me as an enemy.

Pokechu scum slipped day two and then i interrogated him at night, and when i can see his defense aligned mafia i opened up to him.

You seem confident that Pokechu had a scum slip, do you still believe he is mafia after telling me, nabe and others you are a traitor?

 

[BarDulL]

Need prefer 3-4 more votes on Golden. Don’t want to get blindsided by someone’s vote not counting or something.

 

[BarDulL]

Need preferably*

Mobile life is hard

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Moydow is a better cop choice IMO. I'd sooner lynch Golden and Koops, or look for role confirmation.

Fire Emblemier
Do the semantics of your redirect differ from praline's flip at all?

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Where and how?


What did he say?

His certainty of there being 4 mafia. Instead of asking or questioning what the number was he strictly said only 4 and asked for the other two suspicions. This leads to pokechu knowing for a fact there was 4 mafia, a feat only the mafia should know.

Well for starters he kept begging me to talk to you and denied everything terribly in an obvious way.

You seem confident that Pokechu had a scum slip, do you still believe he is mafia after telling me, nabe and others you are a traitor?

Yep.

Wouldn't be surprised if he kills me using his claim.

 

[LoneKonWolf]

Need preferably*

Mobile life is hard

I use mobile predominantly and i don't have trouble.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Moydow is a better cop choice IMO. I'd sooner lynch Golden and Koops, or look for role confirmation.

Fire Emblemier
Do the semantics of your redirect differ from praline's flip at all?

Yeah, mine doesn't cost force points at all, I can freely use it.

 

[BarDulL]

IMO, I’d rather confirm a roleblocker. Will be very important going into later phases if he’s genuinely Town.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

His certainty of there being 4 mafia. Instead of asking or questioning what the number was he strictly said only 4 and asked for the other two suspicions. This leads to pokechu knowing for a fact there was 4 mafia, a feat only the mafia should know.

This was enough for you to PM Pokechu, instead of me, who you were 100% convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt was scum?

Well for starters he kept begging me to talk to you and denied everything terribly in an obvious way.

He said, "I beg of you, talk to Nabe"? What sort of obvious denials did he provide?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Yeah, mine doesn't cost force points at all, I can freely use it.

But other than the cost, it works exactly the same as that one? You redirect one player to another player?

 

[Fire Emblemier]

But other than the cost, it works exactly the same as that one? You redirect one player to another player?

yes

 

[Moydow]

Vote: Golden

Still have doubts about Z25 and Thirdkoopa as well, but the people saying we should check the other roleblock claim have a fair point too.

 

[BarDulL]

2 more votes for safety pls :3

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

IMO, I’d rather confirm a roleblocker. Will be very important going into later phases if he’s genuinely Town.

Unless he gets shot because he's confirmed? If Golden isn't confirmed, he has time to work out the kinks on his own and avoid getting lynched or shot. We've flipped two protectives already, so even if a third exists, we're not getting the sort of coverage that leaves scum unwilling to shoot into priority targets.

Granted, maybe Moydow has some amazing ability that would be best left uncleared. This is not me suggesting a claim, though.

 

[BarDulL]

Game is probably over after the Golden check. Some of us can talk to Moydow at night for ability confirmation.

 

[AlphaSSB]

Vote: Golden

 

[BarDulL]

Uno mas! Will submit action right after.

 

[Deleted member]

Vote: Golden

Bard makes a good argument, if we get to LyLo still having doubts on Golden things could get ugly.

 

[BarDulL]

BRB, gonna have a talk with the force

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Game is probably over after the Golden check.

Ah, it's all becoming clearer to me now...

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Does nobody else think this is significant or worth looking into? While I don't believe that Vaan would include any element of bastardry in the game, I also don't think that something worded in this particular way is to be ignored. Though I'm not familiar enough with the flavour to make any guess at what it means. The best I can come up with is that if it was a town reviver, I'd expect it to be announced more openly, and not with any element of mystery. So if it is significant, it probably isn't anything good for us.

In the canon, Yoda doesn't know about Force ghosts. Qui-Gon gets in touch with Yoda some time after dying and informs Yoda about it. So the way it's worded is not particularly strange.

More to the point, the idea of robes staying and the body leaving in this universe generally means they became a Force ghost, which has no association whatsoever with bad guys. Sith can't become Force ghosts, so I don't think they would be able to induce someone else to become a Force ghost.

 

[Deleted member]

Vote: Golden

I've done all I needed to do. By the end of this phase, someone else among you will die with me.

Game should be over, then.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Game is probably over after the Golden check.

I've done all I needed to do. By the end of this phase, someone else among you will die with me.

Game should be over, then.

yoooooo what

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

There are 12 players alive, so I don't know how the game is going to end, but people are voting for you to cop you. It's not a lynch.

 

[BarDulL]

Still waiting on confirmation though just to be safe.

 

[Deleted member]

There are 12 players alive, so I don't know how the game is going to end, but people are voting for you to cop you. It's not a lynch.

Because the one that will die is a Mafioso.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

uh where is everyone.

Bard and Golden are causing the apocalypse and no one is here help

 

[Thirdkoopa]

im so lost

 

[Fire Emblemier]

In the canon, Yoda doesn't know about Force ghosts. Qui-Gon gets in touch with Yoda some time after dying and informs Yoda about it. So the way it's worded is not particularly strange.

More to the point, the idea of robes staying and the body leaving in this universe generally means they became a Force ghost, which has no association whatsoever with bad guys. Sith can't become Force ghosts, so I don't think they would be able to induce someone else to become a Force ghost.

I just think it was more flavoring to go with Jojalole's sacrifice as it wasn't a typical death

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

this ride has no brakes