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I have the same question. My friend plays sonic and he just spams the side B's and it seems like I can never punish it. Also, I have a hard time landing against him. He's so fast and just dash attacks me before I can land. What are some good landing options vs. sonic?
Use your jabs a lot, you can start a multijab and just wait him out. For landing, never land in him but try to land as far possible with Lunar Landings, my personal favorite is bair's lunar land.
Parcheesy
since he was talking about it earlier.
Ug... You know who has the most annoying dash attack? Rosalina. I hate the ditto for more reasons than I can reliably count, not least of which is how mindlessly good dash attack is. I'd go further, but it's a rant for another day ( I really hope the MU discussion covers Rosalina, because it is one of my worst matchups ).
That match-up did get analyzed last month, and it slightly favors Sheik more.
It is a very weak windbox similar in function to Mario's fludd or palutena' side smash. Personally, I wouldn't recommend using it just for the windbox, but try it for yourself. It might find some place as a micro spacing tool.
Strictly speaking, no. She's a versatile character that has the tools to play extremely defensively. Most of that 'be passive, or you're doing it wrong' comes from the most well known Rosalina player playing her that way. Of course, there are certain matchups where running directly at them with an overly aggressive option is far more likely to do more harm then good, but in a fair majority of the matchups, you can play aggressively and do just fine.
Are there even more ways of controlling it?Good question! From my non-expert knowledge, Rosalina's Launch Star has many different angles and trajectories according to what angle you press [Up + B] and then what angle you hold immediately after. From my personal experience, this is what I have gathered, but experts feel free to correct me since I am not sure at all...
Using the number pad for reference with Rosalina facing the Right side of stage (Player 1):
7 8 9
4 5 6
1 2 3
Input formula is [(First input) + (Second held input)]
[9 or 8 + 5] = Normal Arc towards stage (90 degrees about?)
[9 or 8 + 4] = Straight Up Curving Backwards
[8 + 2] = Straight Up with a tumble at the top (misses the ledgesnap if done from below at wrong distance)
[9 + 1 or 2] = Straight Up Curving Forwards
[9 + 6] = Quick Horizontal Arc Forwards
Note that inputs starting with 7 usually make you launch in the opposite direction. And that is all I know from when I played around with it. Hope this kind of helps?
A lunar landing is just a normal auto-cancelled aerial used by RosaLuma. Then why is it an AT? Although Rosalina's aerial is autocancelled, allowing her to land with only the usual 4 frames of lag, Luma's isn't, meaning RosaLuma is able to pretty much attack without landing lag. However, the autocancel frames are rather short, and it can be quite difficult to hit them precisely. But even if you miss them, you're still protected (kind of) by Luma's hitboxes, so it's not that bad. If you want to practise, RosaLuma's fair has the most autocancel frames, and uair the least (I think, from memory). So probably practise with LL fair at the beginning.
Exactly what RosalinaSGS said. I would like to add that this is very deceptive for the opponent. To them it looks like you are just jumping and landing and not doing anything (perfect Lunar Land) because Rosalina's animation is auto canceled because she touches the ground. However Luma still attacks. This gives you hit boxes that they don't see because they are paying attention to you and not Luma.
Nope! As far as I'm aware, Rosalina was never able to give Villager the ride of a lifetime with her gravitational pull. However, the projectile's immunity to it vanishes the moment Villager jumps off, so he really has to commit to the ( poor ) option if he wants to break through the gravity field.
Yo can I still get an answer to this?
It's hard to say, because it's a matter of priorities, either you value your percent more, or theirs. One example would be going in to poke an opponents shield with a Luma nair. A safe player would be happy with the safe tap of the first hit, and love how Rosalina's nair covers any counterattack an opponent might go for. On the other hand, someone going for pressure will cross up their shield, happy that the second hit of nair fully covers the jump behind, despite not being totally safe once they land, they'll value the positional advantage, and opportunity to keep pressure up. Another example would be edgeguarding, where's it's as simple as being greedy going offstage, or being safe and applying ledge pressure.
I'd have answered but...I've never really used the move. I always thought the move had too much cooldown to have any true followups, but I could be wrong. If it doesn't true combo into anything, the usual response to a strong lingering projectile is to shield, so quickly grabbing afterwards should have an above average chance of success.
Well, there's been a bit of discussion on this very topic here:Hello Rosaluma mains!
I am currently writing a character guide and was wondering what are Rosaluma's best and worst stages?
Any feedback is welcome and thank you in advance
I think it comes down to a preference. But I use C-stick. I do this because the Control Stick is used for Directional Influence, so as coming down to the ground, I can easily maneuver either towards or away from my opponent while still doing the desired Lunar Landing.
Thank you!
Well, the most obvious one is you're regrabbing the ledge, so against an opponent fast enough, they'll just dash to the other ledge after you've made a commitment and down smash you off of it. Aside from that, you carry the risk of SDing under stages with jagged bottoms. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the tactic, because when the Luma returns, you're hardly in a position to stop your opponent from taking it out while you're recovering back onto the stage ( Oh, and stalling is boring ). That said, when Luma is gone I usually take a few extra moments before using launch star offstage, and get the full use of my ledge grab invincibility before getting up.
What @
Parcheesy
said. I would also note that this works only on stages that don't have walls going to the bottom blastt zonezone (such as DH stage). If you get CP to a stage like that, you will be forced to use different stall tactics, and forced to engage. It's best to just be good at engaging w/o Luma and then only stall when it is absolutely necessary to win. But yes, stalling is boring.
I can really only speak for Pikachu, as most of my losses to Sheik players have been because they're simply better at the game than I am. He's just the ideal character for rushing Rosalina down. All of his multihit aerials snuff Luma's, he can instantly start combos from range via quickattack ( simultaneously making him difficult to properly edgeguard ), and he's short, so a lot of Rosa's best punishes just whiff ( Jab, standing grab, etc ). It's not any one thing in particular, he just has really solid answers to everything Rosa does in the neutral game.
Mario & Sonic Guy
Any advice against villager and Rob. I just have so much trouble against those characters, because I feel like Rosalina has to approach but when I approach with nair or bair I realise that they have amazing aerials against and combined with their annoying projectiles. I feel like I can't do anything. Any advice? Do you know what fast moves moves cancel out loid rocket and gyro?
I'm not really a competitive expert, so there probably isn't much that I can tell you about Villager and R.O.B.. At best, I can probably tell you how well Rosalina can handle Ganondorf, since he's one of her easier match-ups.@
