The Top 5 Brawl [ US | CAN | MEX]

[Maharba the Mystic]

TKD, u are the only access we have to mexico's results tho. start posting their results somewhere the people who do this stuff can easily access and then ranking them will be easier.

 

[ChocoNaner]

I wonder if people really think these rankings matter that much when most of these people would lose to The :I

THE ichu:

 

[8Bitman]

Depressing that i'm not on here cuz I can't go to more, and bigger tourneys. T^T

 

[Death Arcana]

If he beat Prawn, that's Prawn's third loss to Ganon in tourney.

Yup lol
How good is prawn?

 

[MegaRobMan]

Your Fox is top 4 probably instead of Zeton's.

WHAAAAAAAAAT??????????

Dude, Zeton is one of the best players I've played against. I sat and watched him outclass Reflex at Kahoka. I honestly think he should be listed higher, but he's not incredibly active.

 

[Roller]

This makes me happy, just because it means Lada was a perceivably good win.

Does anyone know how good Lada actually <is>? Despite me thinking both Dueler X and Lada are very good, I don't know their actual standings.

Lada is pretty good imo, for what it's worth.

Yup lol
How good is prawn?

You were just told he habitually loses to ganons in tourney. Is this a rhetorical question?

 

[TheReflexWonder]

WHAAAAAAAAAT??????????

Dude, Zeton is one of the best players I've played against. I sat and watched him outclass Reflex at Kahoka. I honestly think he should be listed higher, but he's not incredibly active.

He is very good. A lot of it was culture shock, though--I've never played a good Fox in my life prior to that, and I have trouble against characters that move very quickly (case in point--Toon Link is my Kryptonite). I made a lot of amateurish mistakes because I didn't know how to react to anything.

 

[MegaRobMan]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Kinda like me against a Wario who can actually CG AND out camp me...

When you aren't used to stuff like that, people look worse then they actuall are.

MJG is just damn good, imo, though his speed does make it more of a challenge.

 

[TheReflexWonder]

Yeah; MJG is quite smart. I just got outplayed against him, for sure.

 

[slikvik]

mjg, the only toonlink i've ever lost too. beaten all the others. he's kinda ridiculous at the wario mu

edit: waymas for top 5 wario but why are we even ranking mexico if we dont even have access to their results

 

[Krystedez]

mjg, the only toonlink i've ever lost too. beaten all the others. he's kinda ridiculous at the wario mu

edit: waymas for top 5 wario but why are we even ranking mexico if we dont even have access to their results

so glad I went pit against mjg

and i dunno. it was just the way it is, and mex doesnt have as large of a metagame I guess?

 

[DeLux]

I feel that way with almost every character but I cant really back up most so theres no point in arguing. But I did get first in pools once with samus/G&W(against delux) once

but im sure my fox has done more since I did place top 4 often in socal and TJ when I would use him in tourny

I posted all my **** a while back but it kinda got ignored.
but my wins are 3$mm(thats like 5$ in ec) on X, 3$ on bam, wins on AC x2 , icedx, soid, pitbull, zekey, raz x2, half win on havok, and a few others that arnt so notable

top 5 Olimar Anuar was also in our pool iirc

 

[MegaRobMan]

I'm not saying he should be, but are there really 5 Olimars better than Fino?

 

[Tearbear]

top 5 Olimar Anuar was also in our pool iirc

anuar sandbags pools tho thats the only thing
i would know we've been in the same pool like 10 times

i think at this point the way denti is playing id say anuar should be above him

also havok for 3rd best snake imo

I gotta meatride wc since no one else will

 

[DeLux]

Socal locals are top 5 for most stacked pools category?

 

[_Kain_]

Havok's snake is really good.

Agree it should be 3rd or 4th

 

[Tearbear]

o i forgot fatal 3rd or 4th then
idk what fatal has recently done

 

[slikvik]

i dunno. it was just the way it is, and mex doesnt have as large of a metagame I guess?

i mean may as well include japan and europe if we're including mexico

 

[SaveMeJebus]

i mean may as well include japan and europe if we're including mexico

Mexico is still part of North America

 

[MegaRobMan]

I disagree. Though we should just change the name to "North American" since Canada, Mexico and the US are considered that too. Plus that way Panama can be involved too!

 

[_Kadaj_]

I think Havok should be top 3 at WORST.

His Snake is way better than most think, I've seen and played him at pretty much every national we've attended

Top 2 son

 

[slikvik]

Mexico is still part of North America

I disagree. Though we should just change the name to "North American" since Canada, Mexico and the US are considered that too. Plus that way Panama can be involved too!

We have basically no interaction with the mexico scene besides TKD yet we're including them in the rankings. How can we rank players we've never played or even have results for? inb4someonesaysyoutube...

edit: also meatriding havoks snake. it's way too gay for words

 

[Deleted member]

havok cant be on top snake list
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s9Zw66VyzA#t=08m19s

Spoiler

jk hes rediculously good and should deff be at least 4th

 

[Zekeishere]

Oh yeah, if I read that right, and MMs count, I 3-0'd X and 2-0'd Salem both for $10 at Apex.

And 2-1...d? Speed for $5

Edit, I and some more of SoCal actually attends tournaments in TJ. The ones with Nene, TKD, AC, ED, JaimeHR etc. So we do have interaction with them lol. Not to mention they attend larger SoCal tournaments. We just don't post so the rest of everyone gets left in the dark usually.

 

[falln]

i played jaime's ganon a couple times in the hotel room at genesis 2 now that i look back. it was really good

 

[z00ted]

LOL money matches count on this?
Don't know how I feel about that.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

i would hope money matches only count for when nothing else can count (like in the case of ganon) otherwise illmatic ur record with MMs locks u in first with peach FOREVER

 

[z00ted]

That's actually a really good way to look at it, Maharba.
Should count for the lower ranks or lower tiered characters, I definitely agree.

 

[_Kadaj_]

Ill we still need to play!!!

Forgot to ask at Apex

 

[DeLux]

I wanted to play illmatic at apex but he had a line of like 8 people to play him

I swear it was longer than the line to play Brood that was like 4 tv's down

 

[_Kadaj_]

Oh God that line was ******** Lux

 

[z00ted]

DeLux, I felt so bad about us not ever getting to play.
I really wanted to play your Ice Climbers.

That line was really dumb, lmao. I would turn around after a set and like six more people appeared out of nowhere.

Apex really should have had more setups.

Kadaj and DeLux, we'll definitely play next time we meet up somewhere.

 

[Nike.]

Wait, money matches count?!?

Okay, I wanna be a top5 marth lol

 

[DeLux]

It's ok, you would have destroyed me lol

I just wanted it for the learning experience >__>

 

[falln]

that confidence

 

[Krystedez]

i mean may as well include japan and europe if we're including mexico

Nope. Japan and Europe have large enough metagames to warrant their own stuff. Mexico is quite close to us, we have quite a few players from their scene participating in ours like Canada does, and further, they are actually good. I don't want to avoid including them (take that however you want)

LOL money matches count on this?
Don't know how I feel about that.

They don't count for much. Ask me how much? I'll say (Let's put numbers to those feelings!)

Tournament Wins = 2x's
Bracket Wins = 1x's
Pool Wins (Hard) = 0.8x's
Money Matches (~$50+) = 0.8x's
Pool Wins (Easy) = 0.5x's
Money Matches (Anything below ~$50) = 0.1x's
Friendlies = .01x's

Good luck deciphering those numbers / abusing them.

i would hope money matches only count for when nothing else can count (like in the case of ganon) otherwise illmatic ur record with MMs locks u in first with peach FOREVER

Basically.

That's actually a really good way to look at it, Maharba.
Should count for the lower ranks or lower tiered characters, I definitely agree.

Yes. For lower tiered characters (E or F and below I think), they count for as much as Hard pool wins or as much as bracket wins depending on amount...

Wait, money matches count?!?

Okay, I wanna be a top5 marth lol

LEt's see, have you done any 50 dollar + mm's lately?

 

[Vermanubis]

Nope. Japan and Europe have large enough metagames to warrant their own stuff. Mexico is quite close to us, we have quite a few players from their scene participating in ours like Canada does, and further, they are actually good. I don't want to avoid including them (take that however you want)



They don't count for much. Ask me how much? I'll say (Let's put numbers to those feelings!)

Tournament Wins = 2x's
Bracket Wins = 1x's
Pool Wins (Hard) = 0.8x's
Money Matches (~$50+) = 0.8x's
Pool Wins (Easy) = 0.5x's
Money Matches (Anything below ~$50) = 0.1x's
Friendlies = .01x's

Good luck deciphering those numbers / abusing them.




Basically.



Yes. For lower tiered characters (E or F and below I think), they count for as much as Hard pool wins or as much as bracket wins depending on amount...



LEt's see, have you done any 50 dollar + mm's lately?

With that in mind, what would, say, my wins against Dueler (pools) and Lada ($5MM) be worth? Hopefully I'll have more come February when I start hosting my tournament series, but for now, that's the extent of notables.

 

[MegaRobMan]

I'm assuming that money matches only matter if you beat quality players. Even though I'm from one of the worst brawl states in the land and money earned is my usual argument, amount of money earned is a pretty bad indicator for money matches. Some people are poor and can't afford to do more than $5-10 dollar money matches.

Also

not accepting anything under 5 dollars though cuz that's a waste of time

If you take 100000 dollars from a scrub it would matter less on here than a $5 dollar win vs a PR'd player. (though you would be the coolest person ever!) So total amount of money from money matches shouldn't matter, just how many matches you win vs peoples mains/legit secondaries.

Example. I beat Krystedez's Ness AND Mario in 5 dollar money matches as well as his Pit for 5. Only the MM vs his Pit counts towards me being a good player. If I would have MM'd his Wario, that would have counted as well, imo.

But I understand if like the best ROB and the 2nd best Diddy player did a 100 dollar money match that would go signifcantly further for this type of thing than 5 dollars. Because 100 dollars is serious **** and 5 dollars isn't even enough to go see a movie (but it's enough to go from Omaha to Chicago round trip on mega bus with enough change for a 2 mcdoubles.)

However, going by this theory

Tournament Wins = 2x's
Bracket Wins = 1x's
Pool Wins (Hard) = 0.8x's
Money Matches (~$50+) = 0.8x's
Pool Wins (Easy) = 0.5x's
Money Matches (Anything below ~$50) = 0.1x's
Friendlies = .01x's

If tournament wins matter and nothing else matters...

I've actually won a tournament before that wasn't at a con

Thankfully Joker (IA) and Kansas didn't show up

but mc pee is better than you

Felix is better than you but you argued yourself ahead of him, figured I'd copy you.

/non-regional bias.

 

[Krystedez]

My bad.

Tournament wins should be split up. If you're winning 10 man tournaments, sorry, you're not better than Boss's Mario.

 

[MegaRobMan]

Excellent, mine had 12

It was also like ayear ago when I was way worse than I am now, lol @ editing lol.