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The Winning Steak Cinemas: Video Archive & Criticism Thread Updated

NH Cody

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Okay well, I watched the D3 match. and it looks like you don't really know that matchup...maybe you should talk to trent or KID about that? Or read the past D3 discussions?

you make a lot of input errors, which kill you, especially against D3. Why run at him and pivot grab? It comes out too fast to punish a sidestep, and you didn't even run behind him...you ran in FRONT of him and pivot grabbed the air, and got killed because of this >_>


also at one point you were doing silly things and just jumped into his grab range, and didn't attack, just jumped right in there and basically yelled out "hey big penguin boy grab me!" and proceeded to take 25% from a CG. Idk, maybe it's just me, but I think it's odd that you just jump around and roll when you're on the opposite side of the stage as your opponent. I've seen other sonics do this weird stuff too, but I thought the point of the game was to attack? lol...I don't know how playing around while you're nowhere near your opponent would do anything for you...you would say "mindgames" but I think that's ridiculous, you mindgame people up close, so you can actually HIT them, you can't hit them from that far away lol...he has the projectile not you, if anyone's going to be taking damage at this time it would be you.

improve your grab game. Maybe use throws other than uthrow? I use a lot of dthrow and it seems to work...plus it didn't look like you were following up after you threw him.

3:15 - sidestep punish bair to pivot grab. THAT's how you use pivot grab. to punish landings and stuff.

that's all I got :)
 

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I know the match-up decently enough but Fizzle doesn't really fall for the "textbook" Sonic shenanigans as he himself also plays Sonic on the side. So, I basically had to do different things to see how far they would get me. If I goofed, I got sat on. I also I tried baiting out grabs by charging spindashes every once in awhile or do empty short hops to get him to do something. There were a few times that it worked and I profited from it. That being said, I think I just proved to myself that I am capable of mix-ups. All in all, I'm learning from the mistakes I made (like doing dash attack at percentages that are too low) and I'm hoping to do better next time. Oh and when I did those pivotgrabs, I was expecting him to airdodge and land in front of me or roll into it.
 

Trent

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlSauuOFl5g - Trent (Sonic) vs. Pharaoh (Wolf) 1 / 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRLddgXWyuc - Trent (Sonic) vs. Joker (Snake) 1 / 2
NOT WIFI

Both sets are from a tournament yesterday. I would appreciate some critique on Wolf, that character just drives me crazy.
EDIT - For the misc section:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N88dRmHPi-E - The Misadventures of MJG and Trent
Too much spindashing into lasers. Everything else was looking good, but you spindashed into ALOT of lasers at range. You really should only be using close range ASC punishers. At 6:30 in match 2 when you go from 13% to 82 in a few seconds, you can just listen to how many times u try to ASC back at him after getting hit. The only time spindashing at him from across the stage worked was the grassy phase iSDR (he probably didnt expect it).

You really did well at alot of points, but like 8 times out of 10, you were spindashing into trouble.

Also the way you were momentum cancelling was putting you in a crummy position first match (wasting your double jump early).
 

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From what I read from Tesh, it's clear you don't walk enough. I know walk > shield works wonders against Mario. Try it more against Pharoah. I figured this out from playing Calebyte and I wanted to try it out on Ripple's Wolf. I would imagine that it would work just as well.
 

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wassup, got some stuff for the archives.

Mock Set Vs. Calebyte :mario:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwc556xWE5Q - Rogue Blades (Sonic) vs. Calebyte (Mario) 1/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUKG9pv0GGQ - Rogue Blades (Sonic) vs. Calebyte (Mario) 2/2

Mock set Vs. Count :diddy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMNL4rGO9iA - Rogue Blades (Sonic) vs. Count (Diddy Kong) 1/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qBKu2xt3n8 - Rogue Blades (Sonic) vs. Count (Diddy Kong) 2/2

and some friendlies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1UOp7tHK1Q - Rogue Blades (Sonic) vs. Calebyte (Mario)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHQnE6xWe7U - Rogue Blades (Sonic) vs. Calebyte (Mario)

feel free to critique the diddy matches I suppose. I feel like I played well but count is still just better than me and I'm ok with where I am right now after a 2 month break.
*Edit* Mega run-on sentence, get at me...
Peace
 

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First thing I notice.

You're using up your shield constantly by putting it up and pulling it back out.

If you keep doing that, you'll leave yourself very easy to poke. I know Sonic has all the spin cancels but see if you can cut down on it a bit.

Also, FSmash is not a good way to punish people at non-kill %s. Go for grabs or SDR combos.

Speaking of, you're using FSmash quite a lot. ;~;

Also don't roll when you happen to shield Marth's DB. It's very well possible to shieldgrab it and junk. *Achoo.* Excuse me, I sneezed the moment I typed that sentence.

Anyway, personal request: Keep me up to date on some of UTs next tourneys? Really, I got my liceanse, and as long as any of you guys would be willing to house me for 1-2 nights, I could make it now. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlSauuOFl5g - Trent (Sonic) vs. Pharaoh (Wolf) 1 / 2

Both sets are from a tournament yesterday. I would appreciate some critique on Wolf, that character just drives me crazy.
Trent, you have to find some other way to approach besides ASC/SDRs. Wolf just kept shooting you out of them.

Also, you fish for too many kills. Not to mention you tried to FSmash a lot of his landings. Both are bad. The former will allow him to counterattack you easily, and the latter will just get you shined. Let the match flow naturally and let opportunities present themselves; try not to force them too much.

Also, please don't throw out attacks out of desperation! You're only digging your grave by that point. Especially at higher %s, everything needs to count!

BTW, congratulations on beating Joker. and welcome back. :)

Uhm, Rogue Blades, I know you said you're coming back from a 2-month hiatus, so I don't want to critique you and come off as some kind of arrogant prick. If you'd really like for me to look at your vids, I will.

I'm sorry it took me this long guys! I'm trying to get faster/better at this!

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thanks so much Kinzer
i do that cause i think i can have a power shield window out a lot.
idk if that is good or bad, my guess is good :ohwell:

i thought the first thing you would notice is my awesome Fooly Cooly tag :(
i preordered the blu-ray set :p
 

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Here are some videos that me and Kinzer (mostly Kinzer) has from our tournament back on Saturday

Kinzer:
Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Edger (Fox) 01 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMerH-C5sfw
Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Edger (Fox) 02 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lLb8QI4Zpw
Kinzer (Sonic) vs. SK92 (Falco) 01 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn6cI4aK4Po
Kinzer (Sonic) vs. SK92 (Falco) 02 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIR2pJQMOP0
Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Ven (Zelda) 01 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=592wTyb9T6U
Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Ven (Zelda) 02 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed9mN3_Bw_8
Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Ankoku (Sheik) 01 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqwsAM0W-uk
Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Ankoku (Sheik) 02 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi5Bm9cg-Ps
Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Trog (Luigi) 01 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIbXut7rAmU
Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Trog (Luiigi) 02 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUn1g22Y0pQ
Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Trog (Luigi) 03 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcxeeM_Gcao

Tails:
Tails (Sonic) vs. Zombe (Donkey Kong) 01 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFcRgthK1pE
Tails (Sonic) vs. Zombe (Donkey Kong) 02 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g--53iKq1AY

Kinzer and Tails:
Tails (Sonic) & Kinzer (Sonic) vs Ivan209 (Falco) & Clario (Marth) 01 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcZv2a72DzI
Tails (Sonic) & Kinzer (Sonic) vs Ivan209 (Falco) & Clario (Marth) 02 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7IzGzPb420
Tails (Sonic) & Kinzer (Sonic) vs. ATK (Toon Link) & Xero (Olimar) 01 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOEOEC2PW5s
Tails (Sonic) & Kinzer (Sonic) vs. ATK (Toon Link) & Xero (Olimar) 02 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t0JtQ0WLKc
Tails (Sonic) & Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Twinx (Ness) & Zombe (Donkey Kong) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoAYDesrDE4

If you need me to space them out, let me know and I will.

Can you please criticizes our videos. I'm not sure what Kinzer wants but I really need my Donkey Kong and all my team matches criticized. I really need help.
 

Kinzer

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He moved here for a job opportunity, and we have yet to play and he doesn't play Hisoutensoku.

and Oh my God my matches with Ven are just lolawful.

Somebody tell me what to do concerning getting back on the ground with her. I had the bad habit of always Dairing after Spring, but that's just because I'm scared to linger in the air since she can just cover my landing moreorless with her little pixie hands. I have everything else moreorless figured out and I hope I'll do better next time but I'm at a loss about what to do after I spring Jump.

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IaMP onry! I will also take challenges in PoFV, but I'm not as good in that.
 

Zankoku

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I used to have an old sig banner logging my progress in the games.


Since then, I did beat SA and UFO on Easy, but couldn't really break any new ground on Normal.
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecwzfFugmjw
True Blue (Sonic) Vs. OutlawPika (Pikachu) 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJwcMji37mw&feature=related
True Blue (Sonic) Vs. OutlawPika (Pikachu) 2
Havent really every gotten a chance to ask help on the forums but got this replay of me and a friend having a local tourney and wanted to get some feed back and such.
Though not sure if this thread was only meant for showing winning videos or not. But first match I won and second I lost, and personally 3rd match was just me off my game, so dont really need critique on a match I know what I screwed myself over in lol.
So if you guys can give me some feedback that would be great. And maybe I can get some other videos of different matchups to better get understanding of things. And thanks to anyone whom takes the time to look this over!
 

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LOL its for all videos man. People win in life simply by maining sonic and eating steak.

Look at the videos on the front page; they have all the vids you need compiled by Espy.
I watched both vids I can give you some critique.

1. First off, use dash attack moreso as a punish and while camping your opponents landing. You started approaching solely with DA and you got hammered for it. Its a great punisher, remember that. Also pay attention to what part of DA hits and how they respond (Di, attack, AD). Theres some good reads (even kills) that can come from that knowledge.

2. speaking of DI. You dont. You have to ff fair>ASC (down b) so you can cancel the momentum. Also you need to train and learn where the opponent will usually be depending on what hit at what percent. Some of your follow ups were you just throwing something out hoping to get lucky. These things are huge when playing sonic; follow ups are our strength. You also need to know you can SDI pikachus dsmash by mashing up. It should never kill you. Last thing about DI; dont DI toward your opponent and Airdodge. In fact you want to try to never airdodge toward your opponent after he hit you ever. Its just bad news.

3. You still should put up the 3rd match u lost. Alot of times, its not only the fact that u did something outside your core gameplay that was stupid, but maybe you were punished more severely for something you often do. Because I can tell you right now, that pika shouldve trashed you if he realized you were playing exactly the same regardless of percent.

Its good to see a fresh sonic, just try to learn from your peers. They have plenty to offer. When you watch videos, watch their tendencies dependent on percentage of their opponent and themselves. Also dont just be enthralled by the flash. Sonic looks pretty sexy with his followups. However what makes an awesome Sonic is knowing matchups and knowing how to avoid damage. Frame traps and all those things can be found in videos (check Espys vids, my man loves those aerial frame traps) and those great things will come in time. Sonic greatest strength is knowing we dont need to commit. We can cancel our swiss knife of specials (side b and down b) in a plethora of ways. So if you can be flexible in that regard then you can definitely get better. Oh and if you happen to stumble on old thread knowledge just dont listen to any of it; except if it was posted by Tenlki

Welcome to the Sonic Boards.
 

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Alright thanks. Main problem was that I never knew where to smash out for the down smash and so I would just smash the sticks left and right lol. Though if I ever get a chance I will post up some better videos and try and get better on those SDI. And I definently shall look at the vids.
And thanks again!

Edit: Though one last question though. I am HORRIBLE with all these different terminology of words and stuff, just recently realized SDI was Smash Directional Influence lol. But when you said Frame Traps what did you mean? And if possible could you give an example of a situation that it happens in?
 

Tesh

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espy, are a bunch of my offline videos in the wifi section because I formatted them wrong?
 

ROOOOY!

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You've got a good grasp of what Sonic can do, and your pressure game in the air is good. I watched those two Pika videos and then one of you against a Snake on pokemon stadium. Most of the problems with your Sonic are down to bad player habits rather than how limited you are with Sonic but those will get ironed out with more experience.

The only things I could really point out are that you weren't SDing out of Pika'd dsmash for example. And your approaches need to be mixed up abit more. I don't know whether it's just because its harder approaching a smaller character, but your approaches were a lot more varied against Snake then against Pika. Lots against Pika were dash attacks, which is more of a punisher then a standard approach. Also, the dash attack was usually followed with a backward roll whether it hit or not, and occasionally you did the same with blocked/missed smash attacks. Opponents will pick up on that and punish you for it if you do it too often. There's plenty of ways to get safetly in range of an opponent without rolling but it varies from character to character (for example, spring => dair away from slow/short range characters who can't camp your landing spot)

It's not at all easy to gimp Pika, but considering how well you were chasing him around the stage it would be nice to see you be more daring pursuing offstage too because when you did it it usually paid off. Dsmash doesn't work too well as an edgeguard I find :/

But in general, gooood **** yo.
 

Kinzer

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But when you said Frame Traps what did you mean? And if possible could you give an example of a situation that it happens in?
If I didn't know better, when BAM is talking about a frame-trap, he's talking about when one attack gives you a certain amount of time to do certain actions.

Let me see if I can give you an example:

When you attack an opponent's shield with Sonic's Aerial Spin Charge, there's a lot of things that can happen. From going through with the ASC and going into SpinDash Roll at the risk of having some opponents shieldgrab you or attack from out of shield. One way to go about avoiding punishment is to double jump-cancel your ASC (if you have one in reserve) and retreating and resetting the situation to (moreorless) neutral, or continuing your assault through a fastfalled aerial or even using the Spring Coil of the Spring Jump to attack opponents who grab you.

Remember through that in order to do that they need to drop their shield; which leaves them vulnerable. Should your opponent not want to take the chance of counterattack, this leaves them stuck in a certain position with no guarantee of a successful counterattack; which should put you in the more advantageous position if you go through with one method of attack.

I hope I explained that properly and clearly.

Welcome!

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you can only be shield grabbed out of your ASC if you shield cancel it on the ground.

Or i think unless youre fighting ICs.
 

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Either way, it's just reacting based on certain opponents habits/actions.

If I were to describe BAM's theoretical situation, aerial frame traps is basically getting the opponent to airdodge the first (attempted) attack only to have them go right into the punisher on landing; or if you're in the air a second aerial attack barrage. Works very well indeed.

Oh that reminds me, now that I have the time to make this second post...

thanks so much Kinzer
i do that cause i think i can have a power shield window out a lot.
idk if that is good or bad, my guess is good :ohwell:

i thought the first thing you would notice is my awesome Fooly Cooly tag :(
i preordered the blu-ray set :p
Haha. I see so many tags, and I too understand that some people draw motivation from them, so even though I got the reference I didn't want or feel the need to comment on anything that wasn't pertaining to focusing on what habits you displayed in the matches.

*Stuff.jpg.*
Oh man, and here I was about to ask if you've tried Hard or Lunatic mood on any of them. Glad to know I'm not alone when it comes to (sort of) sucking at Bullet Hells. Even Jerry is better at me at the actual projects lol.

Also, teach me how to IaMP!

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The Frame traps im talking about are like Kinzer said; basically forcing an opponent to AD with an attack only to punish them right after their AD with another attack. Thats where the trap part comes from; by ADing, they forced to take the following hit (for the most part). For instance, if u Full Hop up air and someone ADs the second hit, you can buffer a DJ uair in their direction and for the most part u are practically guaranteed the second up air. Or my love child, the Sh ff uair frame trap. When you are landing camping someone, sh ff uair and either buffer a utilt when theyre close or ftilt (aimed upward) if they di to a certain direction as they AD. Its fairly effective, given the fact when spaced very few dairs can compete with the second hit of uair. which means if u know what youre doing, thats going to be the most common response other that DJ which really wont help because ull still be on the ground free to continue the situation.

Theres also frame traps like whiff shield grab> jab if they spotdodge your grab. Depending on when they spotdodge, you'll trap them and get a free jab which can usually reset the situation due to the nature of our jab.

Again depending on where they Spotdodge sh fair> first hit uair frame traps. And that gives you a free buffer grab or utilt or ftilt/jab to put on some pressure. Actually, depending on the floatiness of the character, you can get first hit uair >dsmash. Just look around in vids; you'll spot them. They help tons, Espy love that stuff. Its one of core factors in his aggro style. Being the fact that we are sonic, we can usually get back in their face again for some other frame traps. Chaining these things, and knowing simple facts ( like majority of solid players wont AD after getting punished for it once) makes u a threat and really doesnt give a player time to figure out what to do.
 

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Updated the archive.

True Blue & Tails: Neither of you posted the videos in the proper format. They were not added into the archive. Please submit them in the right format for the next update.
 

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Oh man, and here I was about to ask if you've tried Hard or Lunatic mood on any of them. Glad to know I'm not alone when it comes to (sort of) sucking at Bullet Hells. Even Jerry is better at me at the actual projects lol.

Also, teach me how to IaMP!

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I recommend to everyone getting into Touhou to at least try Easy before knocking it as not worth the trouble.

IaMP is a game of bad habits and rage.
 

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Updated the archive.

True Blue & Tails: Neither of you posted the videos in the proper format. They were not added into the archive. Please submit them in the right format for the next update.
._.

I probably should've put them up myself, but since they were on his channel.

*Ahem.*

Kinzer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMerH-C5sfw - Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Edger (Fox) 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lLb8QI4Zpw - Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Edger (Fox) 02

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn6cI4aK4Po - Kinzer (Sonic) vs. SK92 (Falco) 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIR2pJQMOP0 - Kinzer (Sonic) vs. SK92 (Falco) 02

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=592wTyb9T6U - Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Ven (Zelda) 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed9mN3_Bw_8 - Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Ven (Zelda) 02

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqwsAM0W-uk - Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Ankoku (Sheik) 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi5Bm9cg-Ps - Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Ankoku (Sheik) 02

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIbXut7rAmU - Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Trog (Luigi) 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUn1g22Y0pQ - Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Trog (Luiigi) 02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcxeeM_Gcao - Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Trog (Luigi) 03


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFcRgthK1pE - Tails (Sonic) vs. Zombe (Donkey Kong) 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g--53iKq1AY - Tails (Sonic) vs. Zombe (Donkey Kong) 02


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcZv2a72DzI - Tails (Sonic) & Kinzer (Sonic) vs Ivan209 (Falco) & Clario (Marth) 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7IzGzPb420 - Tails (Sonic) & Kinzer (Sonic) vs Ivan209 (Falco) & Clario (Marth) 02

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOEOEC2PW5s - Tails (Sonic) & Kinzer (Sonic) vs. ATK (Toon Link) & Xero (Olimar) 01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t0JtQ0WLKc - Tails (Sonic) & Kinzer (Sonic) vs. ATK (Toon Link) & Xero (Olimar) 02

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoAYDesrDE4 - Tails (Sonic) & Kinzer (Sonic) vs. Twinx (Ness) & Zombe (Donkey Kong)

There. Is that any better? At the very least, I'm going to put up replays of myself... myself. I'll leave it up to everybody else to be responsible for their crap next time I guess.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CitIxYq6XrM - Joshua (Sonic) vs. ~Quest~ (Sonic)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIzRxUeUXQ8 - Joshua (Sonic) vs. Dualseeker (Pit)

Wifi matches.

Just a few friendlies testing some new things out, like Jump-canceled charging Down B and VSDJ out of Down B, and finding ways to use Nair offensively.

Shielding and spotdodging are bad, I use Sonic's adjusted hurtbox during his tilts to avoid attacks.
 

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