The Winning Steak Cinemas: Video Archive & Criticism Thread Updated

[Sagen du Smash]

I know this is critiquing vBrawl Sonic only, so I thought I'd upload a video of my Sonic in Balanced Brawl since 99% of it is the same as vBrawl and it makes it easier for me to upload longer videos. Since my Sonic needs review...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxBR05SvanE

 

[Browny]

1:16-1:21

dont ever do that again

I see people do that all the time and it always fails. The enemy only has to stand in one spot while you tire yourself out, never force a reaction, and make it too easy to wait and punish spin cancel spamming.

 

[Sagen du Smash]

Thanks for the tip DJ, I'll keep that in mind. So how do you bait an approach?

 

[Kinzer]

Play against a real opponent, not a computer that will do whatever they're programmed to do.

On a more serious note (I'm not kidding about playing against real people), that's something that you just need to have a knack for; especially against different people. Everybody will have habits and ways of doing things and getting things done, find the faults in their playstyles and take every advantage of it.

 

[Browny]

Ehhhh I very rarely see anyone actually make spin-cancel spamming work, usually fails dismally and when it works, the same could have been acheived by simply walking outside their attack range and threatening them with something lol.

 

[ShadoFiend]

oh...i See How It Is.

this Post Made Me Lol Soo Hard

Edit: Fail

 

[~TBS~]

espyyyy <3
I'll get your vids up for ya, if you dont want em up lemme know.

Espy vs Castro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHI8KN-QqUY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8XNwBZ9VqU&feature=related

Espy vs Nike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWpFEmkBQDY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL1zOunp2j4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euruxl79Hnc&feature=related

Vs Nike Set 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukFpMzICfVs&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOZbnuMeLUE&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlUGTFEmiP8&feature=channel

Espy is da bes mayne.

 

[Nike.]

Dangittttt Espy got the footstool on last stock last game

 

[~TBS~]

Dangittttt Espy got the footstool on last stock last game

wow, i didnt notice the tumble..efff. But you did some nice juggles on game one of set 2. Like...he didnt uair til he was close to the ground wuuuuuut...

 

[WedginatorX]

Espy da bes'? Iunno over here in Jersey this little boy Blue steppin up his game. I think Espy got some competitioooon!

 

[ShadoFiend]

lol. Blue. My supposed look alike.

 

[WedginatorX]

but... he does look like you lol. I saw him yesterday while he was playing against vex and not doing too shabby. if i remember right he took a game off of him in their set and almost won it.
Same thing happened with me and Ninjalink my first match >_> cept i didnt take a game off

 

[Kinzer]

I have a lot of new videos up. I've been so lazy to put them up here, I think I'll just go over what I remember. Could somebody help me look over them just so nothing gets left out?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rjVHnLyGUg

Syonryoken(Sonic) Vs. Tyrant(MK) 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVtq0CjDFO0&feature=related

Syonryoken(Sonic) Vs. Tyrant(MK) 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqJNZG5n0II&feature=channel

Syonryoken(Sonic) Vs. Tyrant(MK) 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGyi-BouZF4&feature=related

Syonryoken(Sonic) Vs. Tyrant(MK) 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_aSm5PXiS0&feature=related

Syonryoken(Sonic) Vs. Tyrant(MK) 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVMRhxGU1xQ&feature=related

Syonryoken(Sonic) Vs. Tyrant(MK) 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLw8cF6RNpA&feature=channel

Syonryoken(Sonic) Vs. Tyrant(MK) 7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EteDEwvmtTg&feature=channel

Syonryoken(Sonic) Vs. Tyrant(MK) 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sddu4rZwkk&feature=channel

Kinzer(Sonic) Vs. HebrewHammer(MK) 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejwcm-n53CU&feature=channel

Kinzer(Sonic) Vs. HebrewHammer(MK) 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GLExoi3Jeg&feature=related

Kinzer(Sonic) Vs. HebrewHammer(G&W) 3

All of you may also want to take a look into these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpCKlSdQQ2c&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiQ0zCUIJjk&feature=channel

(I think that's all. I have some videos of Dao's Diddy and more of Nismo's MK, but I think I already posted those. Either way they're all on my channel if anybody doesn't mind helping me out a bit.)

 

[JayBee]

wow Espy is ******** good. i enjoyed watching those matches.

 

[wowoduend]

Very good pro ITT. My Sonic is lacking :x

 

[ShadoFiend]

Blue may be a long lost brother. Lol. Who knows.

 

[MalcolmM]

Blue and Shado are identical. I jus call them both Bluefiend (smirk)

 

[~TBS~]

but... he does look like you lol. I saw him yesterday while he was playing against vex and not doing too shabby. if i remember right he took a game off of him in their set and almost won it.
Same thing happened with me and Ninjalink my first match >_> cept i didnt take a game off

who did vex use? Dont tell me he used pit...

 

[WedginatorX]

who did vex use? Dont tell me he used pit...

He was using D3 >_> poor Blue getting CG'd. But Blue kept on rejecting Vex's grab's with fair lol. Just not rejecting enough.

 

[Trent]

v

http://www.youtube.com/user/collegehumor?blend=1&ob=4#p/u/1/Ta5SnGJ_H00

 

[Paixy]

X sonic vs sk92 falco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzjKVnXD6sA

quality is pretty bad though

 

[Kinzer]

That is ancient.

And it would be surprising if it only got posted now.

 

[da K.I.D.]

Im having a money match with Dr. G later today, so there should be some new vids of me up by the end of the weekend.

 

[WedginatorX]

Im having a money match with Dr. G later today, so there should be some new vids of me not playing sonic cuz i'm going to get my butt whipped if i do up by the end of the weekend.

^
*fixed lol

 

[Exceladon City]

Im having a money match with Dr. G later today, so there should be some new vids of me gettin scraped by the end of the weekend.

**** Kid, where is all that confidence at? You gotta believe!

10PaRappas

 

[da K.I.D.]

lol, sonic beats dk, so its most likely going to be 2-3 6 minute matches of him holding onto the ledge for half the match cause he gets mollywhopped every time he comes on stage vs me.

He can beat me. but the natural progression is:
I beat his dk with sonic
he beats my sonic with nado and down smash.
I beat his nado and down smash with falco
he beats my falco with dk.

its a really goofy thing when were on the character screen and we just go through that progression trying to counterpick each other lol.

but ill try to get a full set of sonic vs dk.

 

[B.A.M.]

LOL at getting ***** by nado and dsmash. Even Kinzer doesnt get owned by that ish anymore aka hebrew hammer.

 

[ShadoFiend]

Oh baby here comes the sound! Took a train outta new orleans and they shot me up with ephedrine. This is how we like to do it in the murder scene. Can we settle up the score?

 

[Trent]

Finally got a hold of my match with Ally in pools from NK3.

vs
Ally: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr9fvYBUfsU


Re-watching it, I didn't really play that great. I rolled a lot, didn't SDI out of his Nairs, and didn't keep good watch of his C4/Mines.

 

[Exceladon City]

I think you played great. One thing you have to remember though is it's pools and Ally doesn't give a good god**** about pools. But your practice against Joker has and will continue to pay off. Keep that in mind. Also, don't roll away from grenades. Run past/away from them.

 

[WedginatorX]

Wow Trent I really think you stepped up your sonic. You're just making a lot of wifi rolls and dodges >_> also cut down on how much you use spin dash in this matchup. It can do wonders against snake but if it becomes a habit, he can read it and punish it like a *****. Jus' sayin. Good **** tho.
I almost got to play against Ally at KTAR 2 x_x then they shut friendlies down cuz we had to get our ***** out of the venue by 6. The venue owners pulled one over on Keitaro :\

 

[B.A.M.]

Some lol matches with tyrant from around a month ago from Haze's pad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLw8cF6RNpA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_aSm5PXiS0&feature=related

theres some others in kinzers channel. However the rest of those are pretty much me trying out things and failing lol. Messed up on a VSDJ punishment on nado and it cost me a stock but its okay it was a month ago. Just for reference we can legitimately punish Dsmash with ftilt,dtilt, and DA OoS .Just for those who didnt know iono if i show it any of these vids but whatever. critiques would be nice although alot stuff were just dumb mistakes and i have solved on my own. Theres some decent nado punishments in the vids above for those who are having trouble punishing that ish. And lol at SDIing down and punishing with utilt.

 

[Kinzer]

Are you talking about the front, or back hit of DSmash?

Either way, you're kind of slow; I think I already posted them here. XD

 

[Joemama8]

yoyo espy good **** lately man! Ima try to get some more vids up soon. Having a mini smashfest tonight so hopefully i can get some good material for you guys.

Also, on a slightly related note, I believe it is time to get a community combo vid out imho. Anyone out there have any objections?

 

[Trent]

yoyo espy good **** lately man! Ima try to get some more vids up soon. Having a mini smashfest tonight so hopefully i can get some good material for you guys.

Also, on a slightly related note, I believe it is time to get a community combo vid out imho. Anyone out there have any objections?

I started to work on a video by taking all the Sonics from the video archive and looking for F-Smash kills.

Just putting all the F-Smashes together to the song of Launch Base Zone. I gave up 'cause I eventually got bored of looking for the F-Smashes.

 

[B.A.M.]

lol i didnt see them, thats i posted them lol. And front hit for sure, ive punished the back hit too i gotta check the frame data on that again but we should be good. I know ppl make misteaks, but i dont think ive seen any1 punish dsmash with ftilt or dtilt so im putting that out there

 

[WedginatorX]

I agree about the community combo video. Sounds like it'd be fun to me :D Whoever is interested say I. If you have a capture card say "I'm about to become the biggest tool on the sonic boards."
I'm about to become the biggest tool on the sonic boards.

 

[Espy Rose]

Napilopez (raise your hand if you remember that guy) was making a community video a long time ago.

It never happened, despite the mountain of video footage in the Video Thread. lol.
Didn't help that he had a thread dedicated to it, and the Sonic boards did help out here and there.

Napilazy.

 

[Trent]

If people were willing to give exact times on videos / footage of the F-Smash thing I would totally do it. I just stopped because I didn't wanna search through the videos anymore..

 

[Joemama8]

how about we post the url and the time(ish) of the combos we want and someone (i will do it if absolutely nobody else wants to do it) will compile the shiz. This keeps one guy from getting burnt out looking through video after video. So format could be like:

Rogueblades combos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
1:14-1:21

ect ect...

discuss.

Mods can move this post to an independent thread if you wanna keep this out of the critique thread.