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No, you said it does more damage than Fthrow and then I said Fsmash does more damage than Fair.
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Tier list for Marth's moves
- Thread starter Emblem Lord
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feardragon64
Smash Champion
At any decent % that you grab someone you're better off just pinging them and grab releasing anyways >> Other than that grabs are only good for positioning so meh.
∫unk
Smash Master
So what's your point?
¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯
Smash Legend
I'm saying that damage of moves doesn't really matter to how good they. NVM.
∫unk
Smash Master
Of course it does.
If f-air did 1% every time no one would use it. We'd be using SH DB1 n-air u-air as our setups.
If f-air did 1% every time no one would use it. We'd be using SH DB1 n-air u-air as our setups.
¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯
Smash Legend
Lol, SH DB. I guess you are right, my point was that just because a move does more damage doesn't mean it is better.
M15t3R E
Smash Master
I don't think you're doing dair justice by putting it in bottom tier.
Sure, on-stage it sux. But it's a great spiker.
Sure, on-stage it sux. But it's a great spiker.
Coda
Smash Cadet
Top Tier
Fsmash
Shieldbreaker
Dsmash
Dolphin Slash
Dair
High Tier
Bair
Nair
Fair
Dash Attack
Counter
Middle Tier
Jab
Utilt
Usmash
Ftilt
Low Tier
Uair
Bottom Tier
Dtilt
Dthrow/Fthrow/Uthrow/Bthrow
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Fsmash
Shieldbreaker
Dsmash
Dolphin Slash
Dair
High Tier
Bair
Nair
Fair
Dash Attack
Counter
Middle Tier
Jab
Utilt
Usmash
Ftilt
Low Tier
Uair
Bottom Tier
Dtilt
Dthrow/Fthrow/Uthrow/Bthrow
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Remzi
formerly VaBengal
Dammit, I can't tell if he's serious.
This IS coming from the one who said we should zone with fsmash.
SwordmasterXXXI
Smash Journeyman
crazn137
Smash Journeyman
Don't hate guys. This dude definately knows his stuff. Dair is great for killing off stage. And a fully charged fsmash and shieldbreaker is like, Marths BEST killing option. And then the dsmash. Its stops rolls, so you're opponent stops trying to dodge you. I also agree with where he put dtilt and the throws. Dtilt blows, it has no killing potential or anything. And the throws only do like, what, 4%??!?!?!!?!?
tl:dr: this guy knows his stuff
sarcazmz!!!!
PenUmbra
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OK! I think I can explain Top tier, and I don't even play Marth... but Pierce does, and it influences me.
F-smash= Pray and hope for tip
Shieldbreaker=Pray some more?
Dair= This guy is really religious....
EDIT:
To be more serious, even as a person that DOESN'T play marth, I can see this is pretty bad. I think that from somebody that has to fight against marth, and isn't marth might have good input for what's effective, but maybe not, so even though I'm not too important here, I'll give it a shot.
God Tier
The extra attacks that occur when his Tiara tips and **** ensues
Shield
Top Tier
Fair
Dancing Blade
Dtilt
High Tier
Bair
Nair
Uair
Usmash(Utilt for scrubs)
Whale Render(Dolphin Slash for scrubs)
Middle Tier
Shieldbreaker
Dsmash
Usmash(the real Usmash)
Fsmash
Low Tier
Ftilt
Jab
counter
Dthrow/Fthrow/Uthrow
Bottom Tier
Dair(Varies on player)
Dash attack
Bthrow
viparagon
Smash Ace
i'm suprised DB isn't higher; its better than dtilt IMO
feardragon64
Smash Champion
Troll.
Also, we know dair is low/bottom tier. Honestly, I think it's low tier. The reason for that is, despite the fact that in a match against anyone good it's almost useless, it's still an option that can turn things around. Even if you don't use it, they have to take measures NOT to get spiked. If they don't, you CAN spike them and lol hard. If nothing else, that can set up for potential mind games. But it's still pretty useless so meh, low tier I say.
ZHMT
Smash Lord
Seriously...posts like that should be removed. Its going to misdirect new players the wrong way. Kinda upsetting really...
Oh...and if for some reason he actually thinks that list is correct, he obviously never read any stickies. There should be a test needed to allow posts on the Marth boards. I can only dream...
Oh...and if for some reason he actually thinks that list is correct, he obviously never read any stickies. There should be a test needed to allow posts on the Marth boards. I can only dream...
feardragon64
Smash Champion
How many times have I said this?
We need to change the "Marth Character Board" link to Junk's sticky.
Someday it'll happen. I just know it.
∫unk
Smash Master
What do I need to change?
MK:
God Tier
Dimension Cape
Tornado
D-tilt
Top Tier
D-Air
Forward Smash
Shuttle Loop
Down Smash
Ftilt
Down Throw
High Tier
Up Air
Back Throw
Forward Throw
Back Air
Dash Attack
Up Throw
Up Tilt
Forward Air
Middle Tier
Drill Rush
Low
Up Smash
I think the closest thing Marth has to God tier is dancing blade.
God Tier
Dimension Cape
Tornado
D-tilt
Top Tier
D-Air
Forward Smash
Shuttle Loop
Down Smash
Ftilt
Down Throw
High Tier
Up Air
Back Throw
Forward Throw
Back Air
Dash Attack
Up Throw
Up Tilt
Forward Air
Middle Tier
Drill Rush
Low
Up Smash
I think the closest thing Marth has to God tier is dancing blade.
feardragon64
Smash Champion
Nothing. Instead of people trying to going here, we should redirect that page to your thread.
It's something only a site admin could do and they'd have to go out of their way to do it. lol. It's a joke...sorta....kinda....not really =[
BBoyindo
Smash Ace
Lol i first saw the falco tier list, then the metaknight one where they said they stole it from the falco and the marth boards, but the marth boards have stolen it from the falco boards so that means that smashboards is corrupted and everyone is false and im leaving i swear there are only stupid peeps here sheesh......didn't mean any of that btw.
snake boards are probably the next one.
snake boards are probably the next one.
Deoxys
Smash Lord
What makes Dair so useless? Marth doesn't go for spikes as much these days? Do you think MK's Dtilt is better than yours?
ZHMT
Smash Lord
MK's Dtilt IS better then ours lol. Oh and the dair fails because there is ALWAYS a better option...always.
∫unk
Smash Master
Yes MK's d-tilt is better.
MK is a better version of Marth pretty much.
You can use the principles of Marth and be good with MK. Just learn the spacing to have a lagless Tornado and other B move trixies.
And d-air is terrible.
MK is a better version of Marth pretty much.
You can use the principles of Marth and be good with MK. Just learn the spacing to have a lagless Tornado and other B move trixies.
And d-air is terrible.
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Why is B-throw terrible? Just asking.
phi1ny3
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hatred, lol.
Oh, and Lucario actually did it 3rd, I think.
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B-throw is weaker D-throw with more recovery frames.
It's a horrible useless move.
It's a horrible useless move.
luvs2pluck
Smash Apprentice
I would say move u-tilt over d-smash, but thats just because I'm partial to u-tilt because my roomate mains DK.
also, u-throw and dair should have a seperate tier for awesomest moves to kill with. nothing is better than getting at the highest point on a level and chucking them through the roof
also, u-throw and dair should have a seperate tier for awesomest moves to kill with. nothing is better than getting at the highest point on a level and chucking them through the roof
Remzi
formerly VaBengal
Lol, up throw kills are extremely satisfying.
legion598
Smash Ace
i would have Fsmash way higher id at least have it higher then Usmash but ya thats a pretty good list
grandmaster192
Smash Ace
I have a question for EL and Steel2nd.
How come you guys don't think to highly of Marth's Nair and how come you have the dtilt above it? Is there something bad about Nair that I am not seeing?
How come you guys don't think to highly of Marth's Nair and how come you have the dtilt above it? Is there something bad about Nair that I am not seeing?
Nair is great. But top tier? not that good
also i think one spot from top tier is "thinking highly of it"
also i think one spot from top tier is "thinking highly of it"
illinialex24
Smash Hero
yeah it is. I gotta use both moves more.
SwordmasterXXXI
Smash Journeyman
Why is F-tilt so low? Is it becuase there are always better options?
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Not that safe and yes there are better options.
gunterrsmash01
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Hehe, my idea stolen XD, its all good lol
Surprised to see D-tilt at top. Thought fair would be on top.
Fsmash is pretty low... wow
the Fthrow -> Fsmash is a guaranteed combo on most characters so i'd say it should be a little higher (fsmash)
Surprised to see D-tilt at top. Thought fair would be on top.
Fsmash is pretty low... wow
the Fthrow -> Fsmash is a guaranteed combo on most characters so i'd say it should be a little higher (fsmash)
That means that fthrow is good, not Fsmash.
feardragon64
Smash Champion
I want pummel on those lists.
It's like the safest move ever.
And it usually does more damage with pummel-->grab release than Marth's craptastic grabs.
It's like the safest move ever.
And it usually does more damage with pummel-->grab release than Marth's craptastic grabs.