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LOL you forgot ZSS.^That is indeed confusing and odd
Here's a cooler one from a cooler person (me so there)
More probably general consensus type of thing.
This isn't the list I'd make but it's pretty close.
This is kind of what I'm 'getting' from discussion around here and elsewhere.
Guaranteed high in Top
Pretty much Top
Could be Top
Not Top but close
Less close but high of the solids
All solid
Less solid but still low in solids
Not very solid
Some junk like that in roughly that order or some junk
Edit: Put pictures cause names suck
Some people feel the need to complain about things and grab trading with attacks wasn't in Melee soooooooo
You act like we tether character mains don't want to grab as much as you can.
No it's actually bcuz maylay. Brawl prevented grabs on opponents behind the grabber.
No I mean the random chance of auto breaking out even if they are at 100. Lost a few last stock moments thanks in part to this mess since diddy's recovery minus sideb is kind of mediocre.
If you want, we can talk about Fox's
If you're an optimizer in any way, like I am, it's an amazing amount of fun. There are also few things more satisfying than defeating a >10000 dust deck with a Murloc aggro rush strategy. It's kind of funny too how I play every video game that I do in a pretty similar fashion: I find the facerush strategy and go all in on it. Whether it's Ike, Vanguard Shepherd, Leap-focused Draken warrior in Wildstar or running a deck where my most expensive cards are 3 mana, heh. The only exceptions I can think of is my invisibility-focused assassin from Skyrim, and Skyrim hardly has challenging gameplay.
Because we don't want people maining cool characters, so we all conspired against you to hide Wolf's awesomeness.
Determining whether ROB is deserving of hatred in 3.6 would require someone to actually play ROB.
To my knowledge people think the fact that ROB can dash-dance in the air as well as having his down-throw which leads into huge punishes into edgeguards.
Wolf is fur-shiek with a knee
Teleport knee and a claw forward air. I'm literally spacie Mewtwo. When's Mewtwo getting a metal tail to help him survive space flight?
Yes, Mario's UpB has invincibility from frames 3-9, but from frames 3-6 his body reels backwards slightly and he starts moving frames 7-9.
Ice f-air and up-smash are probably a bit better overall than their fire equivalents, but they have completely different uses and whether or not you want them over the others is matchup and percent dependent. Ice d-tilt is terrible and barely does anything that low angled f-tilt doesn't do better in almost every situation. Ice f-smash is frame 16 instead of 10 and has next to no knockback for actually KOing, doesn't link past like 30% on most characters, and if by some miracle you actually get the freeze hitbox, they just go careening in the sky too far up to actually get a follow-up. Fire is the well rounded well designed toolset, Ice is space f-air and get random up-smash kills. Ice needs a lot of work.
Life
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